Supporting Obama? No treats for you at Grosse Pointe Farms house

[Faygo Kid]

Source: Detroit News

GROSSE POINTE FARMS -- A Grosse Pointe Farms woman has doled out political tricks by refusing Halloween treats to children whose parents support Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama.

Shirley Nagel passed out candy Friday -- but only to those who shared her support for Republican presidential candidate John McCain and running mate Sarah Palin.

Fox 2 News says a sign posted outside Nagel's house, about 12 miles west of Detroit, served notice to all trick-or-treaters. It read: "No handouts for Obama supporters, liars, tricksters or kids of supporters."

Nagel tells WJBK-TV that "Obama's scary." When asked about children who'd been turned away empty-handed and crying, she said: "Oh well. Everybody has a choice."

Fax and phone messages were left Saturday at numbers listed in Nagel's name.

Read more: http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20081...

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The Farms is a wealthy suburb, but I am sure this is roundly condemned by all there. What an embarrassment.

This is all they've got left, this kind of ugliness. Can't wait to hear her Christmas plans.

[GreenPoet64]

1. The kids will learn young what Republicans are all about. Silver lining. n/t

[Enthusiast]

65. Hey, why give to un-American children?

I mean............

[Milspec]

77. What a creep

dark hearted soulless

[pepperbear]

2. so she'll have plenty of candy for next year, seeing as how she gave away hardly any this year. n/t

[minnesota_liberal]

105. and hopefully plenty of eggs too

Do kids still "egg" houses?

[FVZA_Colonel]

3. You know... I'm pretty sure toilet paper and eggs exist for a reason...

(beyond the primary, of course)

[Maeve]

20. Those are tame compared to some of the pranks I have heard of

what might be called "doggie bags" for instance....She'll be lucky if someone doesn't decide a "trick for no treats" is warrented

[Dr.Phool]

46. Whatever you have in mind, don't even think about doing this.

Don't ever get a bunch of old keys, that aren't any good anymore, and put a tag on them that says $100 reward if found and returned to (address).

And be especially careful not to drop them outside of blood banks, jails, drug treatment centers, or mental health clinics.

[enuegii]

66. What an appropriately Rovian idea...

of what not to do, of course!

But, hmmmm...

[tom_paine]

117. Holy Shit! What an awesome thing not to do!

I only hope I remember it, so I can make sure I never do it, of course.

[fudge stripe cookays]

48. And my dog will be happy to volunteer....

We have a Great Pyrenees (think, Shetland pony) who creates a prodigious amount of poop. This bitch needs several LARGE bags set aflame on her porch.

[DBoon]

50. you shouldn't use the word "bitch"

Your Great Pyrenees would not appreciate the comparison

[fudge stripe cookays]

99. He's a he.

And he's fixed, so no worries!

[DBoon]

110. The he would not appreciate this woman being compared to his sister!

nt

[PassingFair]

21. I am SO nailing her house next year.

[Liberal Veteran]

4. Wow. What a nasty piece of work she is.

A republican through and through.

[Joe Chi Minh]

28. What an amazing way to court shame and ignominy on yourself -

and, by the sound of it, completely unawares. Victimising young children on political grounds! I was going to say that it beggars belief. Would that it were so. So many of the remaining radical right-wingers, calling themselves Republicans, don't reach the level of "pond life".

[PatGund]

78. Yep....

Matter of fact, RNC delegate from Michigan

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/09/04/w...

"Nagel, a retired schoolteacher from Detroit, had anticipated few events as eagerly as she did Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin's speech Wednesday night. Ever since Sen. John McCain named her his running mate Friday, Nagel had watched clips of Palin on television, read stories about her in the newspaper, and learned enough about her family -- the new baby, the pregnant daughter, the daughter's boyfriend -- to feel, Nagel said, "like we've known each other for 20 years." All that remained, she said, was a formal introduction.

"You judge a book by its cover, and we've been waiting for that chance with her," said Nagel, dressed in a hockey jersey like the rest of the Michigan delegation. "We want to see how tall she is, if she wears heels, how she wears her hair. That's stuff us Republican women need to know."

When Palin finally did make her introduction, Nagel approved of what she saw -- and heard. Nagel once coached a high school speech and debate team, and she liked how Palin defended her family without sounding defensive. She stood up on her red folding chair at the end of Palin's speech and leaned in to take a picture. "She started with the family and then moved on, just like everybody should do," Nagel shouted above the roar of the crowd. "She's a woman, and she showed she's tough. She attacked Obama. She touched on all the issues. We love her."

[eagertolearn]

92. I feel sorry for who ever had her for a teacher. n/t

[Occulus]

124. Holy fuck:

"We want to see how tall she is, if she wears heels, how she wears her hair. That's stuff us Republican women need to know."

Oh. My. GOD. Talk about SHALLOW.

[KingFlorez]

5. She ought to take her candy and shove it where the son don't shine

I'd never, ever take politics that far, everything has a limit and this is an example of taking things to a bizarre level.

[louis-t]

6. Some of the most die-hard repug crazies

live in the Pointes. I'm sure there are many there who are cheering this, family values and all. The Detroit News is the right-wing paper here. Their editor is a nutbag of the highest degree. Nolan Finley is the guy. He wrote an article the other day explaining how much Michigan will benefit from global warming.

edit to add: Grosse Pointe is where I had a repug fox news watching crazy almost throw me out of her house because she thought I was Jewish, and you know "all those Jews are so Liberal". I said "Joe Lieberman is Liberal?" She said "I don't wnat to pay for your............." she forgot how the rest of the talking point went. I told her "I pay for my own insurance,etc., you're not paying for anything of mine." She also thought fox was the only "real news". This is a woman living in a $500,000 house.

[Faygo Kid]

8. Native Detroiter and long-time East Sider here now out of state. Know it well.

The Farms is upscale, and reich wing. But they won't welcome this kind of publicity, either. The Farms aren't really Palin yaa-hoo country. They hate and discriminate tastefully, and this will be abhorrent to them.

You are right about The Detroit News, but they have been that way for 30 years. Will look up the global warming crapola article. Thanks, and I plan to retire back to Michigan, still the best state in the union (except for the Lions).

[blue_onyx]

68. I can't stand Nolan Finley

Was his global warming editorial suppose to be funny? I couldn't tell if he was trying to be funny. If he was, he failed badly. If he was being serious, then he's just plain crazy.

[liberal texan]

7. tasteful

[Ken Burch]

9. If only Charles Dickens were still around, he'd get a story out of this.

(Then again, he'd be 196 years old, so it would probably be too much trouble to teach him to use the computer.)

[Joe Chi Minh]

30. She makes Scrooge seem like Father Christmas.

[Fire1]

73. Republicans ARE Scrooges............"Are there no work houses? Are

there no prisons?"

[Ken Burch]

111. And Cruella DeVille seem like Mrs. Claus

[Hong Kong Cavalier]

10. The Special Hell™ is reserved for her.

n/t

[Name removed]

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[Platypus]

12. Classic Republicanism

Apparently it's OK to redistribute the wealth (candy) so long as it's being redistributed to Republicans.

[judasdisney]

63. Metaphor for the ages

[LynnTheDem]

13. And she considers herself a "good christian woman" you betcha.

Jesus Christ had plenty to say about people like her.

[LynnTheDem]

14. "Oh well. Everybody has a choice."

Oh the fucking irony.

[crazylikafox]

38. yea. If only that were true.

[tblue37]

44. But obviously little kids *don't* have a choice. No matter whom their

parents support, I doubt that the children had anything to do with it.

[RedLetterRev]

15. Typical nutwinger

oo, I bet she was SO egged.

[Bozita]

16. Here's the video from a local news station ...

http://www.myfoxdetroit.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail?con...

No Treats for Obama Supporters
Last Edited: Friday, 31 Oct 2008, 10:22 PM EDT
Created: Friday, 31 Oct 2008, 10:22 PM EDT

A Grosse Pointe Farms woman is accused of pulling a political dirty trick. Instead of giving away treats to every child who knocks on her door, parents say she's only giving them to kids who agree with her choice for president. FOX 2's Andrea Isom talked with the woman accused of denying children candy.

[Faygo Kid]

24. WOW THANKS> Everybody check this out, please!

Geez, when even a Fox News local station is shocked, well what can I say??

I wonder if Bill O'Reilly will accuse Shirley of waging a "War on Halloween?"

[tblue37]

45. She has that pinched, nasty look you find in women like that. nt

[Journeyman]

17. Her choice, I guess . . .

(though it certainly seems odd and disconcerting)

[MikeNearMcChord]

18. Was Shirley Nagel born a A-hole or did she have to work to achieve that?

[ben_thayer]

19. She needs to have her

wealth re-distributed...(with extreme prejudice).

[yardwork]

22. From the Grosse Pointe Farms website - they're certainly high on themselves.

Grosse Pointe Farms is a beautiful, upscale, suburban community on the shores of Lake St. Clair in southeastern Michigan. Since its establishment in 1892, Grosse Pointe Farms has become one of the premier neighborhoods in the country. The Farms is recognized for excellence in its schools, the quality of its housing stock, the safety and welfare of its citizens and its commitment to the special enhancements that make a city a community.

[ben_thayer]

25. "A community for..

persons of obviously superior breeding and taste"

[NOLALady]

54. A community for

persons of obviously superior INbreeding.

[bitchkitty]

23. On Nov. 5 her outhouse will get overturned.

Figuratively speaking, of course.

[sandyj999]

26. There is a large concentration of snobs there. n/t

[Milspec]

89. large concentration of snobs there......

I know snobs (Think Colonial Dames) a true snob would never do something like this in my experience. This is just being a media whore

[Aviation Pro]

27. Oh the duality, A Khristian celebrating a Pagan holiday.....

....

[Rockholm]

31. She's too stupid to know that.

[Manifestor_of_Light]

49. Halloween is the eve of a Catholic holiday.

The word Halloween is a contraction of "All Hallows Even" or All Hallows Eve. November 1st is All Saints Day, in which saints are remembered. November 2nd is All Souls' Day, wherein all the dead are remembered. So the Mexican Day of the Dead celebration is spot on.

It's about remembering your ancestors in the Christian tradition.

[Aviation Pro]

55. Here's the Wiki entry for the origins....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halloween

[susanna]

29. Wonder if this is her?

IF it's the same person, she was questioned at the RNC after Bible Spice's speech (as a Michigan delegate):

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/20...

[Bozita]

32. sure sounds like her

[susanna]

35. It IS her...just found another link. :-)

...she was actually an alternate delegate. Found this pic and she looks just like the lady in the video upthread:

http://www.stateline.org/live/details/story?contentId=3...

on edit: clarity

[Bozita]

42. Great find!

[BlueGADawg]

84. She has that thin skinned look

of someone that has had multiple facelifts- I see it all the time where I work (country club). Nothing is more pitiful than someone so miserable trying desperately to hang on to their youth and being oblivious to everyone making fun of them behind their back ... Sounds like a totally miserable human being.

[Wednesdays]

70. Ugh...

"You judge a book by its cover, and we've been waiting for that chance with her," said Nagel, dressed in a hockey jersey like the rest of the Michigan delegation. "We want to see how tall she is, if she wears heels, how she wears her hair. That's stuff us Republican women need to know."

Yeah, the real important stuff.

[yardwork]

33. That sounds like her. The article says she's a retired school teacher.

That means she is enjoying that socialist retirement benefit that goes to state employees after twenty years of service.

[susanna]

37. Priceless.

Wow. She is a real piece of work.

[AbbeyRoad]

76. dear, lord. she had authority over kids?!

[noamnety]

116. A's for all the republican children, F's for everyone else. (nt)

[Faygo Kid]

36. It's her. She was at the GOP Convention. Confirmed. I emailed Countdown. World's Worst fer sure

Shirley Nagel is surely a perfect World's Worst Person for election eve on Monday.

She's what the Rethuglicans are all about, and why they are going to get smoked.

Be sure to check out the video at post 16. Astounding.

[susanna]

39. Excellent, faygokid! n/t

[Divine Discontent]

51. good job FK, they may not have found the Convention connection. you rock!

[Divine Discontent]

53. totally a joke to her community now - they will be treated differently after this -

you just don't do that to kids without appearing like, oh, you know, a fascist freak!

Good job lady, you're nuttydom has just secured that you'll be treated like a pariah for years to come - hey look it's the weirdo that said no to giving candy to kids who answered her question with "Obama" - nice job racist bitch! LOL

[Fire1]

74. Grosse Pointers have ALWAYS been a nasty bunch.

[mwb970]

34. They're all so mean-spirited.

Like being petty and nasty is some kind of "small town virtue".

[Tutonic]

40. Mrs. Soup Nazi?

[frylock]

41. and her house wasn't egged back to the stone ages?!

what the hell is wrong with kids these days?

[Faygo Kid]

57. Why can't they be like we were, perfect in every way? Oh, what's the matter with kids, today?

I would definitely have followed your advice 40 years ago. Well deserved, Ms. Nagel.

[Olney Blue]

43. What did the Independent and Green party kids get?

[RoccoR5955]

47. That's nuts! Around here, the Republicans are the ones who want to abolish Hallowe'en

For the following reasons:
1) It's not a "christianist" holiday.
2) Children going trick or treating, is like them asking for handouts, when we all know that they should have to work hard for their candy, and not ask for 'welfare' from the people with candy.
3) Handing out candy to kids who do not have candy, and want it is like socialism, and spreading the wealth, and we all know that Republicans have no need for socialism.

This place mentioned in the OP must not have gotten the memo.

[CTLawGuy]

52. crying children = future democrats

these "people" should consider the effect of what they are doing.

[Divine Discontent]

58. not only that, she might have swayed a bunch of undecideds across the country... just like

"backwards B" liar wannabe-victim, Ashley Todd.

[shanti]

56. karma, shirley!

hope it knocks you upside the head, cause you deserve it!

[krkaufman]

59. We need to flood MSNBC/Morning Schmoe with phone calls and emails on this story ...

... given their "Upper West Side" report from Friday:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/31/willie-geist-c...

[and-justice-for-all]

60. Who wants their poisoned candy from China anyway...

this is also just more proof that Repukes are bigots and racist.

[ejpoeta]

sounds like someone is vying for worst person in the world this week.

sheesh! I think that lady wants some tricks!!

[Justice]

61. petty small Shirley

[DeadManInc]

62. That bitch needs egged every chance the local kids get.

[olddad56]

80. when I was a kid who was too old to trick or treat, I lived for people like this...

We'd make a list and all year, and that that magical night would happen. The treat was not an option. The ol' set the paper bag full of dogshit on her porch, light it on fire and run, taking her own garden hose, preferable with a high pressure nozzle, ring her door bell, and when she opened it, full blast, and then run, fire a dozen rotten eggs on her house, let the air out of the car tires. I don't recall ever doing any of this stuff to people at random. Only mean people and, of course, teachers we didn't like.

Where are the 13 year olds of yester year.

[DeadManInc]

108. LMFAO!!!

[scarface2004]

64. then its tricks for you bitch!!!

i would trash her house...with a ******* cocktail and a burning pumpkin, then i would give her a tootsie roll!!!

[KamaAina]

67. Earth to Nagel: Trick-or-treaters aren't old enough to vote.

or if they are, they shouldn't be trick-or-treating in the first place.

[ejbr]

69. That poor lady

someone is going to fuck...her...up.

[Piewhacket]

71. You gotta be one sick piece of garbage......

to hold the sins of the parents
against their children.

"Everybody has a choice." says Shirley Nagel of GROSSE POINTE FARMS MI,
as she refuses candy to children of Obama supporters.

Choice? A choice to be children on halloween?
What is clear is that Shirely Nagel had the choice.
and chose unwisely.

Today:
Shirley Nagel of Gross Pointe Farms MI,
worst person in the world.

[Dollface]

72. A "Worst Person" nominee for sure

[The Hope Mobile]

75. Pathetic

[scytherius]

79. Bitch. I gave candy to all kids. Maybe . . .

I should by her neighborhood kids a ton of eggs.

[olddad56]

81. I wonder if this is the same Shirely Nagel who...

name , address and phone number can be found quite easily with a zabasearch. At www.zabasearch.com

Think I'll give her a call and send her a card.

[olddad56]

82. guess you have to spell her name right.

[skepticscott]

83. Don't all be too indignant or self-righteous

I recall an OP on this board not too long ago where the poster was trumpeting the fact that he had refused service in his art gallery to people sporting McCain paraphenalia, and pretty much all of the responders congratulated him for it. I was one of the few to criticize him and ask people to think about whether they wanted to live in a society where you got served in hotels, stores, restaurants, etc., based on your political affiliation. Not many seemed to take the lesson to heart. Well, this is the sort of thing that happens when people come to accept this kind of discrimination as a good idea. Granted, doing it to children takes it to a new level of low, but it's not that much better even if it were confined to adults.

[lonestarnot]

88. Oh fuck you. Nobody would want her shit anyway!

[TomInTib]

90. That 'poster" was me.

And I would do it again.

To me, the Republicans are the greatest Enemy this country has. I go out of my way to fuck with them.

And there were no children involved, just three adults. But if a child would have been with them, I would have given that child something really cool. Maybe an old Chinese cricket house or something.

[skepticscott]

93. The question still stands

Would you want to live in a country where the service and public accommodation you get depends on your political affiliation? Especially when there are a lot of Republicans who think that liberals are the greatest enemy this country has? Whether that type of discrimination is directed at adults or children is really irrelevant in the final reckoning. It's a bad idea. If you want to fight political battles, you can do it in political arenas. And please don't tell me that it was your shop, so you had every right to do it. Having the right to do a thing does not necessarily make it the right thing to do.

[lonestarnot]

95. Well welcome to the U.S.A. Dee dee dee! It's already hear ask the fired U.S. Attorneys!

Especially the one that went to prison, who ran for gov of Alabama... Seigleman is his name if you want to look him up!

[skepticscott]

107. Bad enough

but not the same thing at all. Though I doubt you understand that, since you seem to have not even mastered spelling and punctuation yet.

[Name removed]

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[lonestarnot]

120. Is that all you've got?

How poor is that? Truth is very difficult for some to look in the face. Good luck!

[skepticscott]

125. The fact that your analogy

was badly flawed should have been enough. But apparently you couldn't grasp that either...try again.

[lonestarnot]

126. What do you have against children?

[TomInTib]

109. "We, who are Children of the Revolution"....

"We will not give in

We will not give in"

Maybe, you are young.

Maybe, you are idealistic.

Maybe, you have never been shot

Or shot at.

Fuck them.

They have been fucking us for far too long.

And I fully intend to do whatever I can.

Fuck them.

Enjoy your time on the safety of the sidelines.

Tom

[skepticscott]

132. The question STILL stands..

your overblown attempts to romanticize carrying a fight through misguided channels notwithstanding. When you've all fucked each other to death and left no society worth living in, then come back and tell me how happy you are with yourself.

[cui bono]

128. I agree with you. Recently there was a thread shere the OP said they "smacked down"

some republicans in line at a store. The OP was totally sarcastic and angry according to their own description and most of the posts in response were congratulatory. All that does is keep it at a level of a team sport and send the person home with reinforced beliefs about the "other team". We're all one team with different views, especially when we're talking about the average citizen and not the corrupt politicians. They are their own team. But a better approach is to calmly explain your viewpoint, the truth, and let them come to the realization that what they've been hearing is not true. Perhaps they will change the channel or radio station and see that they have been fed a load of propaganda. Most of them really don't know that.

[lonestarnot]

94. Of course you would have, but they chose to forget the fact that children were not involved in your

situation. Just like a freeper to fuck with kids! They don't even mind killing them for lies!

[fudge stripe cookays]

101. Yes, but...

that poster is highly insane, and has posted about his nutty adventures repeatedly. Not everyone supported his ridiculous move.

Ask him about his green marker.

[skepticscott]

119. No, not everyone

But a lot more people congratulated him than wondered if what he did was such a great idea.

[hisownpetard]

134. delete - dupe (sorry!)

[Danchi]

85. No candy for you

I live fairly close to Grosse Pointe Farms and it is not made up of entirely wealthy people. This woman is just sad and sick and one thing people don't realize when they are doing these controversial things, such as not giving candy to children of Obama supporters or making statements which show their inner personalities, such as being covert racist or bigots, they have to live in the communities they are displaying those behaviors in after Tuesday. People are going to view them differently and interact with them differently from now on. I'm sure her neighbors are shocked. I just discovered a woman I thought I knew from attending spiritual events over the years, who has a website as a astrologer/psychic is a, well, bigot. I receive her newsletter on the election and I was stunned by what she writes. If you dare, go to: http://www.new-visions.com/page/2 and read the spew this woman writes under the guise of an astrological/psychic prediction. I wrote a scathing comment and of course it wasn't posted. It was even devoid of profanity. When it wasn't posted I wrote her personally but of course no response. I probably will be seeing her by the end of the month if patterns hold but I don't think she will be welcomed because others who know her and have read this newsletter(I use the word loosely) are outraged. If you read it and are as outraged as I am, write here and tell her. She needs a reality check. As to Shirley Nagel, this will be her consciousness shift. Her reality check. It's like the press trying to take pictures of Obama's children on Halloween. No one likes people messing with their kids. She will have regrets. As the saying goes: God don't like ugly.

[yardwork]

104. Wow, that is a very upsetting screed. She reveals herself as a bigot. Very sad.

[NWHarkness]

86. When did they move Grosse Pointe?

"12 miles west of Detroit"?

What's up with that? The Pointes border Detroit, on THE EAST.

[Faygo Kid]

97. I missed that. Hilarious!

Of course GPF is east of Detroit, and right next to it.

That was insane. And from the Detroit News, no less!

Great catch, and thanks. Bizarre.

[JVS]

98. I wondered the same thing.

[Blue_Tires]

87. that's almost as bad as the Florida State Santa Claus back in the early 90s

edit: holy shit i found a link! i've been looking for that story for years!


http://www.iht.com/articles/1994/12/21/topics_42.php

[fudge stripe cookays]

102. OMG that's hysterical!

[MetaTrope]

91. Here's hoping McCain reports that candy as a campaign contribution

[lonestarnot]

96. Who would have wanted that crap anyway. She prollee picked her nose and touched it first!

My kid wouldn't have cried over that crap!

[OswegoAtheist]

100. It's probably for the best, anyways.

People like her usually give out toothbrushes and religious tracts.

Oswego "and no pennies for UNICEF" Atheist

[minnesota_liberal]

103. My kids skipped any homes with McCain/Palin signs

Didn't want any of their filthy candy anyway.

[zehnkatzen]

106. Some people have formative experiences about republicans ...

Mine was Nixon.

These poor kids was a mean, bitchy old lady.

A special corner of heck was just reserved for her.

Tho arent the Grosse Pointe communities a little east and north of Detroit, not west?

[workinclasszero]

112. I feel sorry for the kids but they did learn a valuable lesson

about the absolute hatred that burns in the dark hearts of Republicans.

A true republican is an ugly human being.

[fortyfeetunder]

113. What right does she have to ask people who they're voting for?

That is unusual behavior.

[dugaresa]

115. McCain's gotta love his base...

[jmowreader]

118. That five-year-old demographic is really going to swing the election...

You know what it is, right? She bought ONE bag of candy and needed to stretch it out.

Apparently someone forgot to tell her the last Republican president to win Michigan was Poppy Bush in 1988.

[Danchi]

121. No candy for you-pt. 2

If you want to get a look at what kind of person would politicize Halloween and deny candy to children-go to Huffington Post at this web address: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/11/01/mccain-support... and meet Shirley Nagel.

[HughBeaumont]

122. Doesn't it seem kind of weird to anyone else that this woman

sure has the media in tow . . . a LOT.

For a retired schoolteacher and a part-time delegate, her name is popping up everywhere. It's weird that she would make such a public example of herself and her selfish Republican ways, which seem to rotate around the great American traditions of exclusivity and general super-dickishness.

[Maestro]

123. Wow, even the McLame supporters in my red area

wouldn't do that! Bad move lady and petty beyond belief!

[Sugar Smack]

127. What a weak claim to fame.

What an impotent way to assert your voting power.

[cui bono]

129. And the kids who DID get candy also got a McCain pamphlet!

The little bags of candy were taped to pamphlets!




Here's the sign on her lawn:

[Mesteryo]

130. how does she know

How can she tell who supports Obama or not?

[depakid]

131. Pettiness is a common Republican trait

which is yet another reason why in so far as possible, its usually a good idea not to associate with them.

[blue_onyx]

133. She's just bitter that Obama will win Michigan

She's angry that Michigan hasn't really been in play so she's taking it out on the kids. A bitter, mean-spirited lady.