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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-08 05:38 PM
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Secretive conservative meeting set for next week
Source: Reuters

DALLAS - A leading social conservative, who asked not to be named, has confirmed reports in Politico and The New York Times that major players in the movement plan to meet in Virginia next week after Tuesday’s presidential election between Democrat Barack Obama and Republican John McCain.

Their mission will be to chart the next course for their movement and the Republican Party.

If McCain and his running mate Sarah Palin – the rising star with this set — pull off an upset win, they will be in a jubilant mood. But the meeting seems more premised on the scenario of a McCain loss, which most opinion polls suggest at this point.

“There is a consensus that the Republican Party is in trouble,” said the source, who plans to attend the meeting.

“I think there will be a number of meetings after next Tuesday among social conservatives,” the source said, adding they would be aimed at reigniting the movement and keeping its agenda high in Republican circles.

Religious and social conservatives are a key base of support for the Republican Party who enthusiastically backed President George W. Bush but they have been frustrated in this election cycle.



Read more: http://blogs.reuters.com/trail08/2008/10/30/secretive-conservative-meeting-set-for-next-week/



ewwww, very eerie. Probably should have met on Halloween in their White Robes. :scared:
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-08 05:42 PM
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1. they will learn from all this.
and the money race next time around -- well we're gonna have to invent a word that is more extreme than obscene.

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SoCalNative Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-08 05:46 PM
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6. If they had any brains at all they'd realize...
they need to kick the conservative religious wackos to the curb and get back to the Goldwater republican platform of fiscal conservativism and less government intrusion.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-08 05:49 PM
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10. i think you will see a split of some kind --
and this is a meeting of social consrvatives.

the thing is moderates will need the 25 dollar donations that social conservatives can deliver.

on the other hand the party is waking up to the fact that the social conservative movemnet is going to bring them back.

i think social conservatives know this as well.
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scytherius Donating Member (576 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-08 06:15 PM
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20. Exactly! The problem is
There are none of those types of Republicans left in the Party. They purged them all.
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NEOBuckeye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-08 06:34 PM
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21. Be on guard. But at the same time, I wouldn't bet on it.
McCain could have run a more effective and competitive campaign had he actually presented an honest vision for the future, and not hog-tied himself to the same old Rovian "fear and scare" strategy that Americans finally seem to have cast aside in favor of dealing with a collapsing economy and all that it entails. Even now, in the waning days of the election, when McCain and the Republicans should be talking about what McCain will do as President, they continue to beat a dead horse with smear-ads on Obama about abortion and raising taxes. It's an old song and dance act that worked for Bush from 2000 through 2005, but dropped off the charts in 2006 and finally seems to have worn out its' welcome with the majority of the American electorate in 2008.

Moderate Republicans now realize this, and perhaps have been slowly waking up to this reality for quite some time. But now having lost control of their party, Moderate Republicans are abandoning it in droves.

However, for a good number of the social conservatives, being anti-abortion and anti-gay marriage are their bread and butter, so fundamental to who and what they are that they can no more abandon these causes than you could cease breathing oxygen for more than a minute. They are hopelessly mired in outmoded, discredited ideology, and will likely remain so, even if it means the total destruction of the Republican Party with themselves firmly at its' helm. They probably will appoint Palin to head the 2012 Republican Presidential ticket, and she will go down in flames. The rest of the party will soon afterwards follow her into the ash bin of history.

Put another way, you must evolve and adapt to deal with changing circumstances, or you will perish. It's that simple. The Republicans and social conservatives stand in direct opposition to historic change, most of it necessary and long overdue. They can either join us and ride the tide, or else be swept away into history.


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Bicoastal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-08 05:43 PM
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2. "Most" opinion polls, Reuters?
Try ALL.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-08 05:44 PM
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3. Will they break out "the snakes" and talk "in tongues" ... just for Failin' Palin'?
Edited on Thu Oct-30-08 05:44 PM by ShortnFiery
:evilgrin:
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Turbineguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-08 05:44 PM
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4. Here's a concept:
Adopt a platform you don't have to lie about in order to make it sound good.
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cyberswede Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-08 05:47 PM
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7. You hit it on the head! n/t
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CatholicEdHead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-08 05:44 PM
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5. Social conservaties are very frustrated
And want complete control of the party themselves and their major goals taken care of ASAP (e.g. banning abortion and gay marriage and an US Constitutional amendment for both).
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NEOBuckeye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-08 06:01 PM
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18. Let them go for it. It will be their Waterloo.
The cons are a minority group that wants to impose their will upon the majority. Should they attempt to seize power, the majority will certainly revolt and overthrow them.
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-08 05:48 PM
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8. Pull out of the GOP! Form your own freaking party!
That will show them!!!!!!!
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Veritas_et_Aequitas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-08 06:08 PM
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19. A "No Palins Club" if you will nt
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Political Tiger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-08 05:49 PM
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9. I'd love to be a fly on the wall in that room!
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-08 05:51 PM
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11. ummm the KKK has always been secretive. nothing new about this nt
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-08 05:55 PM
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12. Why announce a secret meeting?
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-08 05:59 PM
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16. 'Cause then you know you're not invited, nyah, nyah, nyah
And they're not tellin' nobody what treehouse they're meeting in, either! So just forgetcha man!

Surely you've seen the dynamic at work before. Most of us grow out of it by age 8 or so.
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-08 05:57 PM
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13. How is this a Secret?
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neuvocat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-08 05:57 PM
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14. The last time Neocons were so concerned about anything
we had nothing but talking points brewed up in think tanks in D.C. with no other purpose than to get a message out to sway voters to extreme fringe, right-wing political views.
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NRaleighLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-08 05:57 PM
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15. Will it be BYOK? bring your own koolaid?
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-08 06:00 PM
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17. Republicons plan an Occult meeting. As usual. Everything done in secret.
Why do republicons hate openness, freedom, facts and democracy?
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happygoluckytoyou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-08 06:46 PM
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22. AGENDA QUESTION NUMBER 1: Where are we going, AND why are we in this HANDBASKET ? yabitchya!!!!!
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Boo Boo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-08 06:55 PM
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23. Recent advancements in time travel have allowed me
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notheyrejustwrong Donating Member (50 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-08 06:58 PM
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24. My take is that they'll feign cohesion
for the "sake of the party" but privately work to marginalize each other.

The religious right will come together behind Palin and the "smart" ones will get behind Romney.

The fundies will go on a "Palincrusade" but the economic/small government people will not
strike back as much as work to undermine her (Jindal?)

Palin wins reelection for Gov in 2010? OR! runs for a senate seat.

My prediction: Romney/Jindal
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