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GOP voter registration fraud case leads to arrest
Source: Los Angeles Times

Mark Jacoby, who was arrested in Ontario and owns a firm hired by the California Republican Party, violated state registration laws, authorities say.

By Evan Halper, Los Angeles Times Staff Writer
2:38 PM PDT, October 19, 2008

SACRAMENTO -- The owner of a firm that the California Republican Party hired to register tens of thousands of voters this year was arrested in Ontario late last night on suspicion of voter registration fraud.

State and local investigators allege that Mark Jacoby fraudulently registered himself to vote at a childhood California address where he no longer lives so he would appear to meet the legal requirement that signature gatherers be eligible to vote in California.

Jacoby's arrest by state investigators and the Ontario Police Department comes after dozens of voters said they were duped into registering as Republicans by his firm, Young Political Majors, or YPM. The voters said YPM tricked them by saying they were signing a petition to toughen penalties against child molesters. The firm was paid $7 to $12 for every Californian it registered as a member of the GOP.

Several agencies had launched investigations into Jacoby's activities, including the Los Angeles County district attorney's office, which issued the warrant for his arrest earlier this month on felony charges of voter registration fraud and perjury.

Read more: http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-fraud20-2008oct...
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   Ha! Fuckers.  1corona4u   Oct-19-08 05:50 PM   #1 
   ah yes!!!!!  Cherokee4Obama   Oct-19-08 07:30 PM   #38 
   In 2006(?), here in Tennessee, the Chair of the state Republican Women's organization was convicted  SharonAnn   Oct-19-08 09:37 PM   #70 
      Voter fraud  youngharry   Oct-19-08 10:40 PM   #82 
      Hear hear!  SusanaMontana41   Oct-20-08 08:56 AM   #109 
      Did they slap her wrist,  mojowork_n   Oct-20-08 12:42 PM   #121 
   L.A. County's District Attorney Steve Cooley is Republican and I voted for him...  BlueCaliDem04   Oct-20-08 01:19 AM   #98 
   oh dear gawd!  amdezurik   Oct-19-08 05:50 PM   #2 
   A petard is a kind of 16th century military explosive device.  Bernardo de La Paz   Oct-19-08 09:37 PM   #69 
   "For tis the sport to have the enginer Hoist with his owne petar".  amdezurik   Oct-19-08 11:50 PM   #90 
   Or  Sentath   Oct-20-08 12:38 AM   #94 
   Ever see the movie, "V is for Vendetta?"  mojowork_n   Oct-20-08 12:41 PM   # 
   Ever seen Blazing Saddles? (nt)  SteveM   Oct-20-08 10:05 PM   #131 
   GOP = Grossly Overhoisted Petards  beac   Oct-19-08 09:38 PM   #71 
   I wonder who was paying the firm? (nt)  varelse   Oct-19-08 05:52 PM   #3 
   the California Republican Party  LynnTheDem   Oct-19-08 06:18 PM   #13 
   I'm such a dork  varelse   Oct-19-08 06:28 PM   #16 
      Seems to me the California Republican Party May Have Screwed Itself  AndyTiedye   Oct-19-08 07:54 PM   #46 
         The inflated numbers aid donations from big donors, other perks  Roy   Oct-19-08 08:13 PM   #51 
         Also, it prevents people from voting in the Democratic primary.  SharonAnn   Oct-19-08 09:39 PM   #72 
         They always give up integrity for a tidy profit.Registrations didn't matter, only profit  bjobotts   Oct-19-08 10:58 PM   #86 
         Well, if the GOP is dumb enough to pay $7-$12 per person, they're an easy target!  HopeHoops   Oct-20-08 07:33 AM   #104 
         As voter fraud it is relatively benign -  NCevilDUer   Oct-20-08 10:35 AM   #115 
   According to articles it was the GOP paying. They wanted to show the GOP wasn't faltering ....  Sarah Ibarruri   Oct-19-08 08:33 PM   #61 
   What Ever Happened With Ann Coulter's Voter Fraud? nt  lligrd   Oct-19-08 05:52 PM   #4 
   they should send the sergeant-at-arms to arrest her on the double charge  KCabotDullesMarxIII   Oct-19-08 06:16 PM   #11 
   Let's add a third charge of impersonating a patriotic American for cynical political advantage.  bertman   Oct-19-08 06:41 PM   #22 
   If that's what she was trying to do, she's certainly no loss to the stage.  KCabotDullesMarxIII   Oct-19-08 06:45 PM   #24 
   I'm still waiting for the sergeant-at-arms to come and get Miers, Rove, Bolton, etc.  DeeDeeNY   Oct-20-08 07:18 AM   #103 
      Could it be that they are living as free citizens on borrowed time?  KCabotDullesMarxIII   Oct-20-08 10:52 AM   #116 
   Voting Fraud, Ann Coulter, and the FBI (Harpers | May 2007)  struggle4progress   Oct-19-08 07:53 PM   #45 
   The bitch should have been in jail a long time ago n/t  DissedByBush   Oct-19-08 08:29 PM   #58 
   Coulter  spag68   Oct-20-08 12:37 AM   #93 
   Ah, make that "HE got off of course".  howmad1   Oct-20-08 03:07 PM   #126 
   His misrepresentation of gender trumps misrepresentation of district.  HopeHoops   Oct-20-08 07:34 AM   #105 
   Clock ran out  trapper914   Oct-20-08 10:08 AM   #113 
   yet there will be no reports on the MSM of this  yourguide   Oct-19-08 05:54 PM   #5 
   I don't know if that's necessarily correct to say  AnAnonymousDemocrat   Oct-19-08 05:56 PM   #7 
   But they will not "catapult the propaganda" as they would if....  rfranklin   Oct-19-08 06:37 PM   #19 
   This was reported on the local news stations here last night  Kajsa   Oct-20-08 10:12 AM   #114 
   This would only help the repugs if they altered the vote count.  Nambe   Oct-19-08 05:54 PM   #6 
   It would help the Repukes a great deal come next PRIMARY time, when  kestrel91316   Oct-19-08 06:54 PM   #27 
      Of course you are correct. I am suffering from jitters and tunnel vision.  Nambe   Oct-19-08 07:05 PM   #31 
      Thank you  GinaMaria   Oct-19-08 07:42 PM   #42 
   And now you know... why the GOP has been so busy PROJECTING...  Zenlitened   Oct-19-08 05:56 PM   #8 
   Exactly, If They Accuse Someone Of Something  lligrd   Oct-19-08 06:30 PM   #17 
   My, my you have a way with words!!! I totally agree with you...  dennysp   Oct-19-08 06:42 PM   #23 
   You have it, Zenlitened!  Enthusiast   Oct-19-08 08:00 PM   #49 
   "Launch the accusations pre-emptively..."  Raksha   Oct-19-08 08:25 PM   #55 
   Yes, it's a deliberat strategy. And Karl Rove is one who's a master at it.  SharonAnn   Oct-19-08 09:44 PM   #74 
   You nailed it, Zenlitened! The pre-emptive media strike. They knew about this  Peace Patriot   Oct-19-08 08:32 PM   #60 
   Thank you, Peace Patriot. Your explanation makes a lot of sense.  Raksha   Oct-20-08 02:04 AM   #99 
   So true! nt  Mad_Dem_X   Oct-20-08 08:10 AM   #108 
   Yes, forward this to KO and RM for tomorrow's show. Tweety too!  SurferBoy   Oct-19-08 06:02 PM   #9 
   Bookmarked, for spiteful e-mailings later.  BushDespiser12   Oct-19-08 06:05 PM   #10 
   I like the way you think!  TheEuclideanOne   Oct-19-08 06:38 PM   #20 
   OOPS! Well that wasn't s'pose to happen, LOL!  LynnTheDem   Oct-19-08 06:17 PM   #12 
   Let's check that score card again  shadowknows69   Oct-19-08 06:19 PM   #14 
   Still not a peep from M$M  Kalifornia.Kid   Oct-19-08 06:27 PM   #15 
   HELLO this came from the LA times  HEyHEY   Oct-19-08 07:03 PM   #29 
   I think s/he meant the Teevee M$M  benny05   Oct-19-08 07:15 PM   #35 
   Not McCain's era of M$M .. newspapers & magazines  Kalifornia.Kid   Oct-19-08 07:44 PM   #44 
      Grasp the concept of "Mainstream media"  HEyHEY   Oct-19-08 10:45 PM   #83 
         latimes.com is not the mainstream media.  ronnie624   Oct-20-08 02:18 PM   #123 
            The LA times IS VERY MUCH the mainstream media  HEyHEY   Oct-20-08 02:21 PM   #124 
               Pfft! You have no idea what you're talking about.  ronnie624   Oct-20-08 02:42 PM   #125 
                  Yeah, being a professional reporter, I have no idea what I'm talking about  HEyHEY   Oct-20-08 04:23 PM   #127 
                  The major broadcast networks get a LOT more viewers than cable news  AnAnonymousDemocrat   Oct-20-08 08:55 PM   #130 
   The Main Stream Media is in the tank for McCain  machI   Oct-19-08 07:31 PM   #39 
   Fox peeped.  not_this_time   Oct-19-08 07:57 PM   #47 
   Does anyone know if this is him?  Pastiche423   Oct-19-08 06:30 PM   #18 
   Instant Karma  bluesmail   Oct-19-08 06:40 PM   #21 
   Karma - [Awesome] - One (1) Unit.  The Village Idiot   Oct-19-08 11:35 PM   #89 
   ahhh. the sweet sound of silence...  CitizenPatriot   Oct-19-08 06:45 PM   #25 
   fla Students complain of false party swap...2004  maddezmomDU Moderator   Oct-19-08 06:49 PM   #26 
   Every dog has it's day  Suprk   Oct-19-08 06:57 PM   #28 
   His Karma ran over his Dogma.  Nambe   Oct-19-08 07:09 PM   #34 
      That is pretty good! HAHAHAHA  glinda   Oct-20-08 12:54 AM   #97 
   Be Vigilant of What You Sign  NBachers   Oct-19-08 07:04 PM   #30 
   I agree  dooner   Oct-20-08 12:41 PM   #120 
   The very fabric of our democracy, aaaaah! nt  thereismore   Oct-19-08 07:08 PM   #32 
   "Not US, you idiots!!! The DEMOCRATS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  zbdent   Oct-19-08 07:09 PM   #33 
   No "ACORN"?  Zambero   Oct-19-08 07:23 PM   #36 
   THIS is what voter registration fraud looks like.  not_this_time   Oct-19-08 07:28 PM   #37 
   About time they nabbed some of these thugs! K&R  Jesuswasntafascist   Oct-19-08 07:36 PM   #40 
   Schadenfreude: God's sweeteest gift.  Bette Noir   Oct-19-08 07:40 PM   #41 
   Yes! Sweet Schadenfreude!  DemoTex   Oct-19-08 08:17 PM   #52 
   Canadian rightwing extremism  captainjack08   Oct-19-08 07:44 PM   #43 
   I believe they're talking about Ontario, California.  Lautremont   Oct-19-08 08:51 PM   #63 
      You are right...  captainjack08   Oct-20-08 12:48 AM   #96 
   Haha!!! fuckers!!! nt  and-justice-for-all   Oct-19-08 07:59 PM   #48 
   OMG! This is too funny! I hear freep heads EXPLODING!!  someonehasdementia   Oct-19-08 08:04 PM   #50 
   I think I know who this guy is!  catgirl   Oct-19-08 08:23 PM   #53 
   It's Ontario, California, not Ontario, Canada  AnAnonymousDemocrat   Oct-20-08 12:06 AM   #91 
   It sure is satisfying to find that at least some of these assh*les are getting caught.  BrklynLiberal   Oct-19-08 08:25 PM   #54 
   I'm confused - I thought that...  Beartracks   Oct-19-08 08:27 PM   #56 
   Yeeehaaah!  DissedByBush   Oct-19-08 08:27 PM   #57 
   Does anyone have a picture of this guy Mark Jacoby?  Sarah Ibarruri   Oct-19-08 08:31 PM   #59 
   ... and the U.S. press is reporting this? Not burying it? We're in the End Times, people.  judasdisney   Oct-19-08 08:46 PM   #62 
   Figures that the grand ol party of perverts would use baby rapers in their scheme.  lonestarnot   Oct-19-08 09:13 PM   #64 
   remember when the freepers were all "We're gonna take california!!"  CitizenPatriot   Oct-19-08 09:14 PM   #65 
   This is SO much worse than registering Mickey Mouse--who could never show up at the polls.  McCamy Taylor   Oct-19-08 09:14 PM   #66 
   It would only affect their ability to vote in primaries.  SharonAnn   Oct-19-08 09:59 PM   #76 
   "Only"? n/t  IanDB1   Oct-19-08 10:31 PM   #80 
   That is true  BecauseBushSaysSo   Oct-19-08 10:35 PM   #81 
   Phantom voters are useful when flipping votes  formercia   Oct-20-08 06:33 AM   #102 
   Meanwhile, my vewwy good fwiend in Wome, New Yowk, Bigus Dickus, was chawwenged at the polls. n/t  IanDB1   Oct-19-08 10:30 PM   #79 
   Several blogs now reporting the story  AnAnonymousDemocrat   Oct-19-08 09:31 PM   #67 
   IRONY OF THE YEAR AWARD gors to... BAHAHAAAAAAA!!!!!  Kip Humphrey   Oct-19-08 09:34 PM   #68 
   I'll take 'ELECTION FRAUD' for seven dollars, Alex!  beac   Oct-19-08 09:43 PM   #73 
   Republicans voter fraud, nah couldn't be they're so honest....  Historic NY   Oct-19-08 09:55 PM   #75 
   You're probably right.  not_this_time   Oct-19-08 10:48 PM   #84 
   He's just a sacrificial patsy to give the ACORN charade the appearance of non-partisanship. n/t  IanDB1   Oct-19-08 10:27 PM   #77 
   That's rich  Jack Rabbit   Oct-19-08 10:29 PM   #78 
   Call the DoJ! Call the Attorney General! Shit your pants in fear!  Buzz Clik   Oct-19-08 10:49 PM   #85 
   Choke on that acorn, you little sons of bitches  Cheap_Trick   Oct-19-08 11:15 PM   #87 
   Voter fraud indeed. Is there ANYTHING the GOP doesn't steal?  AllyCat   Oct-19-08 11:33 PM   #88 
   United Press International has picked it up  AnAnonymousDemocrat   Oct-20-08 12:08 AM   #92 
   Holy Cats  psomniferum   Oct-20-08 12:38 AM   #95 
   Video of the criminal!  AnAnonymousDemocrat   Oct-20-08 03:28 AM   #100 
   Updated story from the L.A. Times  AnAnonymousDemocrat   Oct-20-08 03:34 AM   #101 
   HooRay !!! - Take THAT, Fuckwads !!!  WillyT   Oct-20-08 07:43 AM   #106 
   We know what this is about  viat0r   Oct-20-08 08:00 AM   #107 
   they need their numbers to look better in order to make the tainted machine count look legit.  mod mom   Oct-20-08 09:00 AM   #110 
   Who'll tell the fabric of Democracy!?!  RUMMYisFROSTED   Oct-20-08 09:32 AM   #111 
   But but but but but... ACORN! ACORN! ACORN!  EnviroBat   Oct-20-08 09:49 AM   #112 
   Since they're so incensed by ACORN...  the blues   Oct-20-08 11:00 AM   #117 
   Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha!  BeliQueen   Oct-20-08 11:57 AM   #118 
   Yes ! Busted. It will not be business as usual this time.  CADEMOCRAT7   Oct-20-08 12:14 PM   #119 
   Help  Italyloveobama   Oct-20-08 01:18 PM   #122 
   As my late aunt used to say:  SemperEadem   Oct-20-08 05:21 PM   #128 
   Deleted message  Name removed   Oct-20-08 08:15 PM   #129 
   Just upsetting...  Flora   Oct-20-08 10:57 PM   #132 
 
1corona4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Oct-19-08 05:50 PM
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1. Ha! Fuckers.
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Cherokee4Obama (70 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Oct-19-08 07:30 PM
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38. ah yes!!!!!
what delicious, tasty Schaudenfreud! D'oh! :spray:
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SharonAnn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Sun Oct-19-08 09:37 PM
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70. In 2006(?), here in Tennessee, the Chair of the state Republican Women's organization was convicted
of voter fraud.

She voted twice in an election, once under a false name.

What a bunch of #@%*&# these GOP are.

And ACORN is supossedly suspicious because they flagged and pointed out all questionable registrations to the voter registration office when they turned in the registrations. They MUST turn in any registrations received, and are not permitted to discard any. So, they review them and flag them for the voter registration office.

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youngharry Donating Member (217 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Oct-19-08 10:40 PM
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82. Voter fraud
Edited on Sun Oct-19-08 10:41 PM by youngharry
Put them all in jail and then put the story on the front page of the newspapers. Make them examples and make them pay.
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SusanaMontana41 Donating Member (753 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Oct-20-08 08:56 AM
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109. Hear hear!
Welcome to DU, youngharry! :hi:
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mojowork_n (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Oct-20-08 12:42 PM
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121. Did they slap her wrist,
kiss her ass, or fine her pocket change?
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BlueCaliDem Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Oct-20-08 01:19 AM
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98. L.A. County's District Attorney Steve Cooley is Republican and I voted for him...
... and am happy that I had. He was the one who issued the warrant for Mark Jacoby's arrest exposing the GOP's scheme to switch Democratic voters to Republicans illegally.

Steve Cooley replaced Gil Garcetti <sp?> who botched up the O.J. Simpson investigation and evidence implicating O.J.

Steve Cooley always says he's "prosecutor first, politician second" and he's proven it.

He's also cleaned up a LOT of corruption in the Los Angeles boards exposing a lot of Democrats that didn't act the least bit like Democrats as they siphoned off land contracts for pennies on the dollar, and taxpayers dollars for trips they said were for "research purposes" while Los Angeles schools were crumbling, leaking and without air conditioning.

I'm happy I chose to vote for this Republican over a Democrat this time because he's proved time and again, he truly is a "prosecutor first, politician second".
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amdezurik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Oct-19-08 05:50 PM
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2. oh dear gawd!
the RNC's petard is going to be really sore from being hoisted so much :rofl:
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Bernardo de La Paz (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Oct-19-08 09:37 PM
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69. A petard is a kind of 16th century military explosive device.
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amdezurik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Oct-19-08 11:50 PM
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90. "For tis the sport to have the enginer Hoist with his owne petar".
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Sentath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Oct-20-08 12:38 AM
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94. Or
a fart, the word was used in both contexts
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mojowork_n (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Oct-20-08 12:41 PM
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Ever see the movie, "V is for Vendetta?"
Edited on Mon Oct-20-08 12:45 PM by mojowork_n
The 'revolutionary' represented by the face on the mask was the engineer of the "Gunpowder Plot," in Britain, in 1604, Guy Fawkes.

Interestingly -- I just had to look it up -- the plotters were primarily Catholics. Some of them, like Fawkes, were veterans of the Dutch Revolt, fighting on the side of Phillip II of Spain, against the Protestant, Maurice of Nassau, of the House of Orange. (William III, of the House of Orange, later became King of England.)

For their part, the plotters failed because they tried to warn a few of the Catholic members of the House of Lords that they would be risking life and limb if they showed up at the Palace of Westminster to attend the opening of Parliament. The plotters letters of warning! (they didn't have PM's then) came to light and the authorities were tipped off. After torture, the convicted plotters were all sentenced to be hanged, drawn and quartered (like Mel Gibson in "Braveheart") but Fawkes beat the rap by jumping from the scaffold with the rope around his chin, breaking his neck before they could cut his guts out and hack him up.

They didn't fool around in those days, and I'm kind of wondering if things are going to be escalating, in this country, in a little while?
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SteveM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Mon Oct-20-08 10:05 PM
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131. Ever seen Blazing Saddles? (nt)
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beac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Sun Oct-19-08 09:38 PM
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71. GOP = Grossly Overhoisted Petards
Ouch!
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varelse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Sun Oct-19-08 05:52 PM
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3. I wonder who was paying the firm? (nt)
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Oct-19-08 06:18 PM
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13. the California Republican Party
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varelse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Sun Oct-19-08 06:28 PM
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16. I'm such a dork
it's right there in the OP :blush:

Seems like an awfully expensive and not very straightforward GOTV program.
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AndyTiedye (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Oct-19-08 07:54 PM
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46. Seems to me the California Republican Party May Have Screwed Itself
Edited on Sun Oct-19-08 07:55 PM by AndyTiedye
How does re-registering Democrats as Republicans help the California Republican party? They're not gonna VOTE Republican!
If anything, it may screw the wingnuts who run the party when the next primaries come around, if those people are still registered as Republicans.
Not that many people usually vote in Republican primaries in California.
If the people who got slammed into the Republican party vote in their primaries, that could lead to some interesting results.



Another thought: If the Republicans can afford to pay up to $12/voter for voter registration drives, they obviously are fibbing a bit about being short of cash.

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Roy (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Oct-19-08 08:13 PM
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51. The inflated numbers aid donations from big donors, other perks
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SharonAnn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Sun Oct-19-08 09:39 PM
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72. Also, it prevents people from voting in the Democratic primary.
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bjobotts Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Sun Oct-19-08 10:58 PM
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86. They always give up integrity for a tidy profit.Registrations didn't matter, only profit
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HopeHoops Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Mon Oct-20-08 07:33 AM
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104. Well, if the GOP is dumb enough to pay $7-$12 per person, they're an easy target!
Ralph Nader was only paying $.10 or something close for his bogus signatures when he was trying to get on the 2004 PA ballot.
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Oct-20-08 10:35 AM
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115. As voter fraud it is relatively benign -
but what it does is pump up the "Republican" numbers to help explain away the ELECTORAL fraud.

Coming up with an explanation of why the election results don't match up with the polls is a lot easier when you have "registered Republicans" on the books - they just say "look at the voter registration numbers - the votes were there all along". Then step back and let Diebold, Sequoia and ES&S do their work.
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Oct-19-08 08:33 PM
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61. According to articles it was the GOP paying. They wanted to show the GOP wasn't faltering ....
Edited on Sun Oct-19-08 08:34 PM by Sarah Ibarruri
"The 70,000 voters YPM has registered for the Republican Party this year will help combat the public perception that it is struggling amid Democratic gains nationally, give a boost to fundraising efforts and bolster member support for party leaders, political strategists from both parties say."

It was to increase numbers of GOPers for purposes of showing at fundraisers how well GOP was doing.

http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-me-fraud18-2008...
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lligrd (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Oct-19-08 05:52 PM
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4. What Ever Happened With Ann Coulter's Voter Fraud? nt
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Joe Chi Minh Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Oct-19-08 06:16 PM
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11. they should send the sergeant-at-arms to arrest her on the double chargeUpdated at 6:56 PM
of that AND failing to comply with a subpoena. Neocons need to have committed two crimes at least before arrest is considered.
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bertman Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Oct-19-08 06:41 PM
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22. Let's add a third charge of impersonating a patriotic American for cynical political advantage.
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Joe Chi Minh Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Oct-19-08 06:45 PM
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24. If that's what she was trying to do, she's certainly no loss to the stage. Updated at 6:56 PM
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DeeDeeNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Oct-20-08 07:18 AM
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103. I'm still waiting for the sergeant-at-arms to come and get Miers, Rove, Bolton, etc.
All for ignoring subpoenas, and all getting away with it.
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Joe Chi Minh Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Oct-20-08 10:52 AM
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116. Could it be that they are living as free citizens on borrowed time?Updated at 6:56 PM
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Oct-19-08 07:53 PM
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45. Voting Fraud, Ann Coulter, and the FBI (Harpers | May 2007)
May 11, 8:50 PM, 2007 · No Comment · Previous · Next
Voting Fraud, Ann Coulter, and the FBI
By Scott Horton
... So, what happens when a prominent Republican figure is caught red-handed engaging in voter fraud? Über-Republican Ann Coulter was discovered to have falsified a voter registration in Palm Beach County, Florida, and to have voted ... However, in the Coulter case, the U.S. attorney’s office showed no interest in the case. State law enforcement officials did, however. And today we learn that the criminal investigation was closed — as a result of a direct intervention by federal officials supporting Coulter ... http://harpers.org/archive/2007/05/hbc-90000051


FBI Agent Derails Coulter Voter Fraud Case
Posted May 11, 2007 | 01:06 PM (EST)
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/nellie-b/fbi-agent-derail...

Summary: high-level FBI leaned on the locals, who then shut down the case without really investigating
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DissedByBush (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Oct-19-08 08:29 PM
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58. The bitch should have been in jail a long time ago n/t
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spag68 (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Oct-20-08 12:37 AM
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93. Coulter
She got off of course
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howmad1 (630 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Oct-20-08 03:07 PM
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126. Ah, make that "HE got off of course".
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HopeHoops Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Mon Oct-20-08 07:34 AM
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105. His misrepresentation of gender trumps misrepresentation of district.
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trapper914 (792 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Oct-20-08 10:08 AM
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113. Clock ran out
Coulter's lawyers stalled the case until the statute of limitations ran out.
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yourguide Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Oct-19-08 05:54 PM
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5. yet there will be no reports on the MSM of this
:puke:


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AnAnonymousDemocrat (177 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Oct-19-08 05:56 PM
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7. I don't know if that's necessarily correct to say
Edited on Sun Oct-19-08 06:12 PM by AnAnonymousDemocrat
I mean - the L.A. Times is not exactly a left-wing fringe organization, and the story is currently on their home page at latimes.com
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rfranklin Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Sun Oct-19-08 06:37 PM
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19. But they will not "catapult the propaganda" as they would if....
this were one of those "Dem" organizations like Acorn.
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Kajsa Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Oct-20-08 10:12 AM
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114. This was reported on the local news stations here last night

so there is hope!

People have HAD IT with voter fraud!
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Nambe (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Oct-19-08 05:54 PM
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6. This would only help the repugs if they altered the vote count.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Oct-19-08 06:54 PM
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27. It would help the Repukes a great deal come next PRIMARY time, when
God knows how many Dems would find they were not able to vote in the DEM primary, but rather the Republican one. They are already doing advance planning for stealing or at least monkeywenching the NEXT election, with the added bonus of making people so disgusted and disillusioned by the snafu that they won't vote anymore.
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Nambe (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Oct-19-08 07:05 PM
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31. Of course you are correct. I am suffering from jitters and tunnel vision.
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GinaMaria Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Oct-19-08 07:42 PM
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42. Thank you
I couldn't figure out the angle. I didn't see how they would benefit from this, but your post cleared that up. Thanks.
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Zenlitened Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Oct-19-08 05:56 PM
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8. And now you know... why the GOP has been so busy PROJECTING...

... allegation of election fraud onto ACORN.

That's what Republicans do: Whatever crimes they've been up to lately, they rush out and accuse others of doing. And they launch the accusations pre-emptively, to get out in front of whatever news might soon be coming to light. In this case, news of a Republican operative being arrested for election fraud.

That's what makes today's Republican party so fundamentally evil and corrupted: They have merged the mind-fuck techniques of a Charles Manson with the mass-manipulation apparatus of Nazi propagandist Joseph Goebbels.


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lligrd (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Oct-19-08 06:30 PM
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17. Exactly, If They Accuse Someone Of Something
You can be sure they are guilty of it.
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dennysp (210 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Oct-19-08 06:42 PM
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23. My, my you have a way with words!!! I totally agree with you...
I just never would have been as eloquent as you in verbalizing the concept, though.
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Sun Oct-19-08 08:00 PM
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49. You have it, Zenlitened!
Mind-fuck and mass-manipulation! This is what I see in this army of mindless Republican citizens with their zombie-like repeating of talking points.
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Raksha (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Oct-19-08 08:25 PM
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55. "Launch the accusations pre-emptively..."
Do you think it's a deliberate strategy?

Re That's what Republicans do: Whatever crimes they've been up to lately, they rush out and accuse others of doing. And they launch the accusations pre-emptively, to get out in front of whatever news might soon be coming to light. In this case, news of a Republican operative being arrested for election fraud.

I've said more than once that RWWs don't merely project--they project compulsively. It's like they can't NOT do it. But I've always thought the motive was unconscious and that were unaware they were projecting. But you say there might be an actual motive, i.e. "to get out in front of whatever news might soon be coming to light." I'm not saying you're wrong--I just never looked at it that way before.

I wonder if this means they'll finally STFU about ACORN.
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SharonAnn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Sun Oct-19-08 09:44 PM
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74. Yes, it's a deliberat strategy. And Karl Rove is one who's a master at it.
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Oct-19-08 08:32 PM
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60. You nailed it, Zenlitened! The pre-emptive media strike. They knew about this
investigation. For one thing, they're spying on everybody, illegally. So they know what's brewing before anybody else--and design their "talking points" accordingly, to make headlines BEFORE the brewing TRUE story becomes public.

And this also reveals what a smarmy Bushwhack toady John McCain is. He doesn't think for himself. Maybe he can't think through the potential blowback on something like this--I don't know. But what I heard him doing, in the debates, was merely spewing one "talking point" phrase after another, including this utter bullshit about ACORN. I kept wondering WHY. Well, "why" is first of all because that's what he was told to do. And the "why" behind that--Rove's "why"--was to pre-empt this story, and create confusion in the public's mind about who is committing election fraud, who are the lying fucks, and who is stealing elections.

The ACORN pre-emptive psyops also involves the DOJ, as pointed out by Robert Bauer, chief counsel to the Obama campaign, in a letter to AG Mukasey yesterday. There is evidence of coordination of these accusations by McCain, Palin and others, with U.S. Attorneys and senior DOJ officials, and their raids on ACORN offices and anonymous leaks to the media--the very thing that David Iglesias accused them of, refused to parttake in, and was fired for. We's talking a CRIMINAL ENTERPRISE--from the top. How utterly stupid of McCain to involve himself in such a thing! But it's just more evidence that he is a mere toady. Maybe they've promised him a nice mansion and some pretty servant girls in the Cayman Islands or a penthouse in the UAE. That's what it feels like--that he is just an errand boy--to be used and tossed. The truly crazy Corpo/Fascist media attention that he gets--the extra time in the debates--and the completely unbalanced coverage, vis a vis Obama--is not for electing McCain (in my opinion), but rather to keep the NeoCon/Fascist agenda before the public as a legitimate political position. This may be why McCain is so visibly angry and frustrated.

It is to the credit of the American people that they are becoming less and less confusable, by shit like this. And, frankly, they have never been confused about some things--for instance, nearly 60% of the American people opposed the Iraq War before the invasion (Feb 03, all polls). Even with all that intense, relentless brainwashing and propaganda--including even the NYT--that was occurring in that era, the great majority of the American people didn't buy it. Now they just have to figure out--and I think they are--HOW the Bushwhacks are stealing the elections.

It's looking like they won't steal it from Obama. They need to preserve those 'TRADE SECRET' voting machines for future uses. But they very likely will steal some control of Congress--by favoring "Blue Dogs" and Pukes, and disfavoring any real representatives of the people. They will also likely significantly shave Obama's mandate--to further tie his hands and prevent or retard reform.

Registering people fraudulently as Republicans has several uses--to maintain the illusion of more support for the Pukes than there really is (a P.R. purpose--and one that you can see in operation every day, 24/7, in the Corpo/Puke media), for generating donations, for redistricting purposes, to fuck up the registrations of Democratic voters generally, and for primary voting, and possibly as a test run of systems that will have other purposes. The Pukes no doubt have a lot of scams running all the time, testing things out. Who knows what all their long term plans may be for election theft and other crimes?

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Raksha (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Oct-20-08 02:04 AM
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99. Thank you, Peace Patriot. Your explanation makes a lot of sense.
The pre-emptive media strike. They knew about this investigation. For one thing, they're spying on everybody, illegally. So they know what's brewing before anybody else--and design their "talking points" accordingly, to make headlines BEFORE the brewing TRUE story becomes public.

And this also reveals what a smarmy Bushwhack toady John McCain is. He doesn't think for himself. Maybe he can't think through the potential blowback on something like this--I don't know. But what I heard him doing, in the debates, was merely spewing one "talking point" phrase after another, including this utter bullshit about ACORN. I kept wondering WHY. Well, "why" is first of all because that's what he was told to do. And the "why" behind that--Rove's "why"--was to pre-empt this story, and create confusion in the public's mind about who is committing election fraud, who are the lying fucks, and who is stealing elections.


This has always mystified me until now--WHY do they always accuse the Democrats of exactly what they are doing themselves? What do they get out of it? I guess if nothing else, it helps them perpetuate the false equivalence, "both sides do it" meme all Repukes love so much when they KNOW they are going to get nailed for something and there's no way they can weasel out of it. It enables them to "dilute" their own guilt. They can always claim (in this case, anyway) "ACORN does it too," even though ACORN doesn't!
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Mad_Dem_X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Mon Oct-20-08 08:10 AM
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108. So true! nt
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4lbs (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Oct-19-08 06:02 PM
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9. Yes, forward this to KO and RM for tomorrow's show. Tweety too!
n/t
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HCE SuiGeneris Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Oct-19-08 06:05 PM
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10. Bookmarked, for spiteful e-mailings later.
:evilgrin:
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TheEuclideanOne (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Oct-19-08 06:38 PM
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20. I like the way you think!
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Oct-19-08 06:17 PM
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12. OOPS! Well that wasn't s'pose to happen, LOL!
Somehow it was all the Dems' fault!!1!
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Oct-19-08 06:19 PM
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14. Let's check that score card again
Arrests for voter fraud:
GOP-1
ACORN-0
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Kalifornia.Kid (602 posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Oct-19-08 06:27 PM
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15. Still not a peep from M$M
Olbermann or Maddow will probably have more way before M$M takes notice.
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Sun Oct-19-08 07:03 PM
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29. HELLO this came from the LA times
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benny05 Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Oct-19-08 07:15 PM
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35. I think s/he meant the Teevee M$M
Airwaves tend to reach more people than newspapers.
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Kalifornia.Kid (602 posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Oct-19-08 07:44 PM
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44. Not McCain's era of M$M .. newspapers & magazines
Today's M$M - television, cable and their respective blogs.
Ever heard of the "CNN Effect".
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Sun Oct-19-08 10:45 PM
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83. Grasp the concept of "Mainstream media"
If you mean broadcast, say broadcast.
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ronnie624 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Oct-20-08 02:18 PM
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123. latimes.com is not the mainstream media.
When I see some serious coverage on Fox, CNN and MSNBC - where 80% of the U.S. population gets its 'news' - then I can honestly say I saw it in the mainstream media.
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Mon Oct-20-08 02:21 PM
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124. The LA times IS VERY MUCH the mainstream media
Edited on Mon Oct-20-08 02:21 PM by HEyHEY
It's a major daily newspaper. THAT'S Mainstream media. What the fuck would you call it? You can buy it outside of LA, it's read by millions.... you can buy it at the newstand. Is that and Indie paper to you?
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ronnie624 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Oct-20-08 02:42 PM
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125. Pfft! You have no idea what you're talking about.
The L.A. Times has barely 3/4 of a million daily readers.

As I said, 80% of the U.S population receive their 'news' from the three major cable propaganda outlets. That's what the FUCK I call mainstream.

See ya.
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Mon Oct-20-08 04:23 PM
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127. Yeah, being a professional reporter, I have no idea what I'm talking about
Edited on Mon Oct-20-08 04:28 PM by HEyHEY
http://www.latimes.com/extras/ads/circ_02.html


That's just the actual circulation, doesn't count second reads and online.

Try listening instead of being "right" all the time.
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AnAnonymousDemocrat (177 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Oct-20-08 08:55 PM
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130. The major broadcast networks get a LOT more viewers than cable news
Major networks: http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/evening_news_rating... /

Cable networks: http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/ratings /

The L.A. Times gets more readers than most of the cable news shows, and that's just one newspaper.
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machI (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Oct-19-08 07:31 PM
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39. The Main Stream Media is in the tank for McCain
To get information like this, a person has to read the Democratic Underground
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cayuga (405 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Oct-19-08 07:57 PM
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47. Fox peeped.
They made a generic statement about his arrest, never mentioning his party affiliation (although they did show a website with GOP voter registration fraud in its title.)

Also said YPM (Jacoby's company) denied the charges.
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Pastiche423 (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Oct-19-08 06:30 PM
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18. Does anyone know if this is him?
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bluesmail Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Sun Oct-19-08 06:40 PM
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21. Instant Karma
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WheelWalker Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Oct-19-08 11:35 PM
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89. Karma - [Awesome] - One (1) Unit.
Edited on Sun Oct-19-08 11:36 PM by The Village Idiot
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CitizenPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Oct-19-08 06:45 PM
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25. ahhh. the sweet sound of silence...
no rabid RW frothing at the mouth about Acorn (fear! terror! they're registering poor people! oh noes!111!!)

I'm so sick of hearing these people, I can't tell you.

Projection, yeah. I was wondering last week when we'd hear about this.

I am sure McCain is rushing out to pursue justice, after all, he announced to the country in the last debate that voter fraud was the single largest threat to our democracy. Now that the GOP has been found to have hired this guy to illegally get registrations by tricking people (regular Joe?), I can hardly wait for McCain to stand by his word.

Ha ha. Riiiight. As if. McCain has no honor left. NONE.
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maddezmom DU Moderator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Sun Oct-19-08 06:49 PM
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26. fla Students complain of false party swap...2004
Students complain of false party swap
Scores of college students say they were tricked into changing their registration to the Republican Party when signing petitions.
By DAVID KARP
Published October 23, 2004

As a first-time voter, Brittany Goodwin was excited when her voter registration card arrived in August.

Then her father told her that she had registered Republican.

""Nooooo," she groaned.

Goodwin, a University of South Florida freshman and Democrat, was among dozens of college students who say they were tricked into registering as Republicans at USF's Tampa campus.

It happened to hundreds of other students at college campuses in Tallahassee, Gainesville and Orlando.

The Florida Department of Law Enforcement is investigating and Secretary of State Glenda Hood has urged students to call election offices before they vote.

MORE:http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-fraud20-2008oct...
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Suprk (46 posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Oct-19-08 06:57 PM
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28. Every dog has it's day
Even though I love dogs, karma is a b**ch and these guys are finally getting theirs.
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Nambe (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Oct-19-08 07:09 PM
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34. His Karma ran over his Dogma.
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glinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Mon Oct-20-08 12:54 AM
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97. That is pretty good! HAHAHAHA
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NBachers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Sun Oct-19-08 07:04 PM
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30. Be Vigilant of What You Sign
Edited on Sun Oct-19-08 07:09 PM by NBachers
It reminds me of last year's Green Festival here in San Francisco. The whole periphery was a gauntlet of signature harvester-gatherers. You figure they're here for leftist and environmental causes; you'd like to validate them by signing whatever they're putting in front of you. Often, when you sign something, they've got another petition under that one, and another one after that, and so on and so on. You end up with no idea of what you're signing. And the way they present it is very deceptive.

It turns out there were Larouche people there; the bogus eminent domain prop was there; all sorts of fringe lunatic concepts were there looking for signatures. It was a hive of screwball cranks.

So my policy is- if I haven't become aware of it beforehand, and decided to support it, then I don't sign anything. It's too bad, but there is a huge number of charlatans and liars out there.

The concept of "Participatory Democracy" has been hijacked by crackpot kooks who know their proposition would never make it through the legislative process.

Be wary of signing any petition.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1n03a7cLf0M
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dooner (997 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Oct-20-08 12:41 PM
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120. I agree
I've reached the same conclusion... In fact, I have deep suspicion that I was tricked into signing Gov. Davis
recall petition years ago. Similar thing, outside Trader Joes, pile of petitions, in a hurry, lots of save the environment
type petitions. I was trying to read them as I signed, so declined one that looked like the recall petition.
HOWEVER, the petition gatherer told me that it was NOT the recall petition, it was a different initiative Against the recall.
I never heard a word about that that petition again. I think I was misled into signing the recall petition. If so, I wonder how many others fell for that. We think we can trust the earnest person holding the pile of petitions, but if they are getting paid per sig.
why wouldn't they be tempted to stretch the truth to make a buck.

SO... I strongly agree that unless one has time to understand what you are signing, don't get guilt-tripped into
signing anything.
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thereismore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Oct-19-08 07:08 PM
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32. The very fabric of our democracy, aaaaah! nt
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zbdent (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Oct-19-08 07:09 PM
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33. "Not US, you idiots!!! The DEMOCRATS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Son of a ..."
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Zambero (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Oct-19-08 07:23 PM
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36. No "ACORN"?
Then we must be looking at a WING-NUT!
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cayuga (405 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Oct-19-08 07:28 PM
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37. THIS is what voter registration fraud looks like.
http://www.dailybulletin.com/ci_10559994

note to McStupid: There is a difference between registering Micky Mouse (who would be easy to spot if he actually showed up to vote) and lying to people to get them to register as repubs. I wish you had paid attention in school instead of attempting to graduate as the most ignorant cadet from the Naval Academy.

I say we sentence McStupid to go back to school for four more years. He'll be available after Nov 4.

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pleah Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Oct-19-08 07:36 PM
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40. About time they nabbed some of these thugs! K&R
:applause:
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Bette Noir (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Oct-19-08 07:40 PM
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41. Schadenfreude: God's sweeteest gift.
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DemoTex Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Oct-19-08 08:17 PM
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52. Yes! Sweet Schadenfreude!
How sweet it is ..

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captainjack08 (137 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Oct-19-08 07:44 PM
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43. Canadian rightwing extremism
Parts of Canada(particularly Ottawa and Toronto Ontario) have had some really odd things going on lately that look like the possible work of rightwing extremists or at least remind me of some rightwing fear tactics used years ago in Europe's gladio operations to demonize the left. Recently Canadians with left leaning political signs had their brakes on their cars sabotaged:

http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/10/09/america/toronto....

Then there were the attacks that have been occurring on canadian buses and public transportation that reminded me of something out of operation Gladio:
http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/americas/07/31/canada.bus...
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2008/08/01/stabbing-vict...

Then there were those feet washing up on Canadian shores:
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/06/17/world/main418...

And there have been a few Canadian based blogs that have been going after Obama with a vengeance... so obviously there is a sizeable group of Canadian extreme right wingers getting active trying to swing elections. And just some really weird stuff going down in Canada lately which at may not be related but is interesting none the less.

Anyone have a guess as to what makes parts of Canada so right wing? Is it neo-nazis in those areas? Military, criminal underworld or what?
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Lautremont (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Oct-19-08 08:51 PM
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63. I believe they're talking about Ontario, California.
There are right-wingers in Canada, but they're not decapitating Greyhound passengers. They're a pretty mild bunch on the whole, but there are crazies here like anywhere.
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captainjack08 (137 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Oct-20-08 12:48 AM
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96. You are right...
Edited on Mon Oct-20-08 12:51 AM by captainjack08
... been on a Canadian rightwinger kick lately because of a lot of news that Canadian rightwingers have been messing with and intimidating their lefties either by outright violence or other means... was trying to see a pattern here with out realizing this was Ontario, California and doesn't apply.
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and-justice-for-all Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Oct-19-08 07:59 PM
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48. Haha!!! fuckers!!! nt
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CLANG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Sun Oct-19-08 08:04 PM
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50. OMG! This is too funny! I hear freep heads EXPLODING!!
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catgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Oct-19-08 08:23 PM
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53. I think I know who this guy is!
There's a Mark Jacoby from Buffalo, NY. I wonder where in Ontario he was arrested.
Wow. I'm curious.
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AnAnonymousDemocrat (177 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Oct-20-08 12:06 AM
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91. It's Ontario, California, not Ontario, Canada
It's okay. It's a common mix-up. :)
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Oct-19-08 08:25 PM
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54. It sure is satisfying to find that at least some of these assh*les are getting caught.Updated at 10:08 PM
I cannot wait until it goes all the way up the chain...
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Beartracks (817 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Oct-19-08 08:27 PM
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56. I'm confused - I thought that...
... voter registration fraud was, by definition, perpetrated only by left-leaning organizations? :sarcasm:
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DissedByBush (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Oct-19-08 08:27 PM
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57. Yeeehaaah!
Have fun in jail scumbag! Vote fraud perpetrators going to jail just gives me a warm fuzzy. Now to find out whether the CRP directed him to do this or had any knowledge of his intentions to do this -- conspiracy charges!

Release all the minor pot heads our War On (Some) Drugs has put in prison and pack the prisons with the people who are screwing with our election. I want every allegation investigated, the guilty put in jail. I don't care what side they're on, I'll be cheering during their perp walk.
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Oct-19-08 08:31 PM
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59. Does anyone have a picture of this guy Mark Jacoby?
I wish I could say I was shocked by this, but Republicans are scumbags that should surprise no one.
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judasdisney (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Oct-19-08 08:46 PM
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62. ... and the U.S. press is reporting this? Not burying it? We're in the End Times, people.
Maybe the Jeff Gannon story will surface soon?
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Oct-19-08 09:13 PM
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64. Figures that the grand ol party of perverts would use baby rapers in their scheme.
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CitizenPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Oct-19-08 09:14 PM
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65. remember when the freepers were all "We're gonna take california!!"

"The 70,000 voters YPM has registered for the Republican Party this year will help combat the public perception that it is struggling amid Democratic gains nationally, give a boost to fundraising efforts and bolster member support for party leaders, political strategists from both parties say."

It was to increase numbers of GOPers for purposes of showing at fundraisers how well GOP was doing.

http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-me-fraud18-2008 ... "

oh god I can't stop laughing! I was wondering where they got that from!

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McCamy Taylor (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Oct-19-08 09:14 PM
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66. This is SO much worse than registering Mickey Mouse--who could never show up at the polls.
These people who did not mean to register---it would be easy for Republicans to cast fraudulent votes in their names for John McCain. Whereas, no one could show up at the polls trying to vote as Mickey Mouse.
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SharonAnn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Sun Oct-19-08 09:59 PM
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76. It would only affect their ability to vote in primaries.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Oct-19-08 10:31 PM
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80. "Only"? n/tUpdated at 12:21 AM
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Politicalboi (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Oct-19-08 10:35 PM
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81. That is true
But if they steal it they can show more R's registered than D's.
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Mon Oct-20-08 06:33 AM
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102. Phantom voters are useful when flipping votes
Edited on Mon Oct-20-08 06:35 AM by formercia
so they can say they have the registered republicans to account for the flipped votes.

They don't even have to vote, the program takes care of that.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Oct-19-08 10:30 PM
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79. Meanwhile, my vewwy good fwiend in Wome, New Yowk, Bigus Dickus, was chawwenged at the polls. n/tUpdated at 12:21 AM
Edited on Sun Oct-19-08 10:30 PM by IanDB1
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AnAnonymousDemocrat (177 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Oct-19-08 09:31 PM
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67. Several blogs now reporting the story
http://blogsearch.google.com/blogsearch?q=%22mark+jacob...

Unfortunately, no big news organizations other than the L.A. Times are reporting the story at this time.
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Kip Humphrey Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Oct-19-08 09:34 PM
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68. IRONY OF THE YEAR AWARD gors to... BAHAHAAAAAAA!!!!!
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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beac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Sun Oct-19-08 09:43 PM
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73. I'll take 'ELECTION FRAUD' for seven dollars, Alex!

My, my, my-- they rant about ACORN while their own little evil squirrels commit felonies.
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Historic NY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Oct-19-08 09:55 PM
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75. Republicans voter fraud, nah couldn't be they're so honest....
send them to GITMO.
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cayuga (405 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Oct-19-08 10:48 PM
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84. You're probably right.
This guy has been pulling this crap for years. Got caught in Florida and Gov. Bush shrugged it off.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Oct-19-08 10:27 PM
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77. He's just a sacrificial patsy to give the ACORN charade the appearance of non-partisanship. n/tUpdated at 12:21 AM
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Oct-19-08 10:29 PM
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78. That's rich
And it was a damn silly thing to do.
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Oct-19-08 10:49 PM
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85. Call the DoJ! Call the Attorney General! Shit your pants in fear!
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Cheap_Trick Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Oct-19-08 11:15 PM
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87. Choke on that acorn, you little sons of bitches
Oh, what delicious irony.
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AllyCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Oct-19-08 11:33 PM
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88. Voter fraud indeed. Is there ANYTHING the GOP doesn't steal?
For all their talk about hard work, they sure seem to just take what others do.
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AnAnonymousDemocrat (177 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Oct-20-08 12:08 AM
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92. United Press International has picked it up
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psomniferum (53 posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Oct-20-08 12:38 AM
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95. Holy Cats
This story coupled with the Fannie/Freddie GOP connection tonight equals a very bad night for the republicofascists!
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AnAnonymousDemocrat (177 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Oct-20-08 03:28 AM
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100. Video of the criminal!
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AnAnonymousDemocrat (177 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Oct-20-08 03:34 AM
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101. Updated story from the L.A. Times
http://www.latimes.com/news/local/politics/cal/la-me-fr...

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Several dozen voters recently told The Times that YPM workers said they had to become Republicans to sign the petition, contrary to California initiative law. Other voters said they had no idea their registration was being changed.

YPM has been accused of using bait-and-switch tactics across the country. Election officials and lawmakers have launched investigations into the activities of YPM workers in Florida and Massachusetts. In Arizona, the firm was recently a defendant in a civil rights lawsuit.

In a written statement Sunday, the state Republican Party called the charges against Jacoby "politically motivated." The party said the charges do not support accusations from voters and Democratic officials that YPM has been duping voters into joining the GOP.
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Oct-20-08 07:43 AM
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106. HooRay !!! - Take THAT, Fuckwads !!!
:bounce: :kick: :bounce:

:rofl:
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viat0r (42 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Oct-20-08 08:00 AM
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107. We know what this is about
The number or newly registered democrats has been touted in the msm daily the repubs want to MAKE their numbers at least LOOK like they are not going in reverse. This is probably just the tip of the iceburg
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Mon Oct-20-08 09:00 AM
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110. they need their numbers to look better in order to make the tainted machine count look legit.
:mad:
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RUMMYisFROSTED (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Oct-20-08 09:32 AM
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111. Who'll tell the fabric of Democracy!?!
:cry:
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EnviroBat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Oct-20-08 09:49 AM
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112. But but but but but... ACORN! ACORN! ACORN!
Stop looking over there! Look over here at Acorn!

Fucking republicans... :eyes:
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the blues (150 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Oct-20-08 11:00 AM
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117. Since they're so incensed by ACORN...
I'm confident the Conservative Right-Wing Media will be up in arms about this.
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BeliQueen Donating Member (318 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Mon Oct-20-08 11:57 AM
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118. Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha!
Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha!

whew--just a minute--gotta get a second wind

Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha!
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CADEMOCRAT7 (553 posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Oct-20-08 12:14 PM
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119. Yes ! Busted. It will not be business as usual this time.
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Italyloveobama (21 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Oct-20-08 01:18 PM
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122. Help
Sorry for the Over Topic

I am new here , from Italy and we all are for Barack Obama,
i like to post i very important document but i don t have
enough post to do it is anybody able to help me doing this..

thank you very much

Gianvi' Italy for Obama
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SemperEadem (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Oct-20-08 05:21 PM
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128. As my late aunt used to say:
when you dig a hole for someone else, make sure you don't fall into it yourself.
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Flora (54 posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Oct-20-08 10:57 PM
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132. Just upsetting...
I hate to hear that our most important right as an American citizen may be being spoiled. I've been keeping an eye on what is happening with Acorn and not happy with the obvious fraud going on. And now I'm seeing the other side doing the same. How will we know the majority vote if everyone is cheating?

Fraud is fraud, and involving vote, it deserves jail time.
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