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JonLP24 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 09:51 PM
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Libertarians lose election legal battle(To get Obama AND McCain off the ballot in Texas)
Edited on Tue Sep-23-08 09:51 PM by JonLP24
Source: UPI.com

AUSTIN, Texas, Sept. 23 (UPI) -- The Texas Supreme Court Tuesday denied a petition to remove presidential candidates Barack Obama and John McCain from the state's ballot.

The Supreme Court denied the petition, which was brought by Libertarians, without offering explanation, Legal Newsline reported.

Libertarian presidential nominee Bob Barr and the Libertarian Party of Texas said the Democratic and Republican presidential candidates should not be allowed on the statewide ballot because their respective parties missed a deadline to certify their candidates.

Texas requires political parties to certify their nominees before Aug. 26.

Barr, a former Republican congressman from Georgia, and the Libertarian Party had asked the Supreme Court to order the secretary of state to remove the Republican and Democratic tickets from the ballot because Obama and McCain were not formally nominated by their parties before the filing deadline.

Read more: http://www.upi.com/Top_News/2008/09/23/Libertarians_lose_election_legal_battle/UPI-92451222223815/
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PittPoliSci Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 10:03 PM
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1. i wonder how many other states are like that.
since texas is pretty much chalked up as a loss for us anyway, i think it would be interesting to have them both thrown off the ballot.
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JonLP24 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 10:05 PM
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2. I was rooting for this too happen
For political reasons, I saw this awhile ago that both candidates failed to meet the deadline, but knew it they would still be on the ballot.
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 11:14 PM
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7. I disagree that Texas will be a loss
Edited on Tue Sep-23-08 11:15 PM by blogslut
Don't write us off yet. Remember that in the primaries, 2,874,986 Democrats voted. 1,362,322 repubs voted and 38% of that vote went to Mike Huckabee. The sleeping giant is awake this year and Texas could turn blue.
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dchill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 11:26 PM
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9. It is interesting that the MSM are not mentionng...
those figures as they casually and automatically award Texas to McCain. Just like they studiously ignore the 11,000,000 voter registration advantage nationally that Dems have over those other guys.
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 11:54 PM
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13. I'm torn about the lack of attention paid
My hope being that if our astounding numbers are not publicized, there will be less of an attempt to disenfranchise us at the polls. Perhaps my memories of 2004 are distorted but I recall there was much hubub in the MSM about large Democratic turnout.

Granted, I realize that voter suppression is happening. However, I get the feeling that the little goblins have no idea just how many Americans intend to vote Democratic this year. To me, "operation chaos" is bullshit. I sincerely believe we're getting massive numbers of repubs that have sincerely switched parties.
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JonLP24 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 11:57 PM
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14. Voter turnout was astounding for both sides
John Kerry had the 2nd most votes ever.
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 12:10 AM
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15. And this year looks like it will top 2004
At least, on the Democratic side. For comparison sake, I will use Texas as an example again.

Remember that I said that 2,874,986 Texans voted in the 2008 Democratic primary? Well, in 2004, the number of Texans voting in the Democratic primary was 839,231. Even more interesting, in 2004, 2,832,704 Texans voted for John Kerry in the General. In other words, more Texas Democrats turned out to vote in this year's primary than did for the actual presidential election in 2004.

Those numbers make me very hopeful about Texas and I'm not so sure I want the MSM to spoil the surprise with their silly speculations. I would much rather see the drop-jawed faces of those teevee losers on election night, when Texas puts Barack Obama over the top with 34 electoral votes.

Yeehaw, muthafuckas.
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JonLP24 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 12:16 AM
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16. I believe Obama will do better
in the mountain states and some states in the deep south then other dem candidates (Though, I'm not sure if Obama will top Clinton in Southern states).

I'm crossing my fingers that my vote will mean something, I live in Arizona expected to go heavily for McCain but I'm hoping Barack carries this state. I've talked too many people(in the low income tax bracket) and they favor McCain. I recall a conversation I've had with a vietnam vet, he said that he likes the fact that McCain is a little bit of a war mongerer, but favors Obama's middle class tax plan and stated that McCain only shows up to vote 65% of the time(I have no idea if this is true) and states what kind of a President he would make if he only shows up 65% of the time.
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ryanmuegge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 09:39 AM
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19. Doesn't that happen by default because of demographics and increasing population?
Edited on Wed Sep-24-08 09:40 AM by ryanmuegge
In terms of raw votes, I mean.
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LanternWaste Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 07:48 AM
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18. Additionally...
Additionally, in the past two weeks I've seen four McCain spots aired on at least one of the major networks in the 6pm-7pm hour in the D/FW area.

Maybe Texas is more in play than we're being led on...? :shrug:
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PittPoliSci Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 01:42 PM
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21. i really hope your right.
but how many of those democratic primary voters changed registration due to that fraud that rush et. al. were trying to pull? i heard there were some pretty big numbers there.
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razors edge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 10:15 PM
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3. Take it to the USSC Bob. n/t
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AlphaCentauri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 10:58 PM
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4. Those laws only apply to small parties
who would expect the 2 mayor parties affected by those laws, don't you understand democracy?
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JonLP24 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 11:01 PM
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5. What I want to know is why even bother having a deadline
if you don't have to follow it? :shrug:
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AlphaCentauri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 11:22 PM
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8. and The Texas Supreme Court is just overriding the rule of law n/t
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dchill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 11:27 PM
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10. So you can stop parties that you DON'T want...
on the ballot.
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JonLP24 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 11:35 PM
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12. I don't understand what you are saying?
Are you talking about me?
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dchill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 01:08 PM
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20. That WAS pretty obscure, wasn't it?
I guess what I meant was this: if McCain's filing had been on time and Obama's not, then there would have been a huge, "serious" effort to keep Obama off the ballot in Texas - with TONS of lawyers invading. It's just my opinion, but it's a strong one. And no, I wasn't talking about you!
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Pete2069 Donating Member (301 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 11:12 PM
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6. I don't understand how the two parties could be so d... stupid...
Looks like there are not qualifications of knowledge for being
in charge of ****anything****anymore***.  
No matter if it is President , senator , Rep. , Governor ,
""Paulson"" , banking institutions , Wall
street stockbroker. 
 
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provis99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 11:33 PM
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11. so much for libertarians believing in the free market of politics
Bastard hypocrites, aren't they?
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Vogon_Glory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 07:43 AM
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17. Texas Supreme Court Solidly Republican, What a Coincidence! n/t
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