Saudi cleric wants death for TV "sorcerers"

[inanna]

Source: Reuters

RIYADH, Sept 14 (Reuters) - A senior Saudi cleric has said purveyors of horoscopes on Arab television should face the death penalty, a paper said on Sunday, days after another cleric argued death for TV owners.

"Sorcerers who appear on satellite channels who are proven to be sorcerers have committed a great crime ... and the Muslim consensus is that the apostate's punishment is death by the sword," Sheikh Saleh al-Fozan told al-Madina daily.

"Those who call in to these shows should not be accorded Muslim rites when they die," the prominent cleric added.

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In their capacity as judges, clerics of Saudi Arabia's austere form of Islam often sentence "sorcerers" to death.

Read more: http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/LE668892.htm

[LunaSea]

1. I was sure Mr Wizard died of natural causes....

Now I'm not so sure.

I'm kinda surprised that this senior cleric even has a satellite tv.
Then again Falwell had a network.

[Kutjara]

2. Oh gosh, another thorny moral dilemma.

While the Imam's comments are hideously intolerant and medieval, the idea of putting all purveyors of astrological hooey to the sword has a certain appeal. What to think, what to think. Hmmm. :evilgrin:

[Lucky Luciano]

12. haha!

[Chovexani]

21. It only has a "certain kind of appeal" to douchebags.

Much like cracking jokes about putting the Craftsman tool segment of the skeptic population to the sword would not be funny. Because, you know, shit like that has actually happened.

[JVS]

37. It is the will of Allah!

[aquart]

3. Some people really annoy me.

[Nambe]

4. Sheikh Saleh al-Fozan should ask dubya how to control those demons

[DBoon]

17. I'm sure they swap advice about how to best execute prisoners

nt

[fasttense]

5. Seems the death penalty is a one size fits all type of punishment in

Saudi Arabia.

Here we only use it for murderers and powerless mentally deficient Texans (and innocent people who happen to be falsely accused). The Dancing supremes wouldn't let us use it on child rapists. See how much more advanced and socially aware we Americans are.

[annabanana]

6. I am SO GLAD the "movers & shakers" on wall street are

falling all over themselves to do business with the Saudis.

[Lost River Ledger]

7. Witches, Sorcerers and Alchemists…OH MY!

Guess they haven’t heard of the “This program is only for entertainment only” disclaimer that Latoya Jackson, Dionne Warwick and others used. But then, Nancy Reagan could be right……….its all so very true……after all, look how many lottery winners who have day jobs as psychics we have!

[old mark]

8. A few years ago, a teacher in Florida was suspended for

"sorcery" in the classroom by the religious right school board.

He had been doing some sleight-of-hand stage "magic" tricks.

Don't recall how it turned out, but these "christians" who suspended him at least did not kill him.

mark

[LeftyMom]

18. He lost his job.

Florida. :eyes:

[Gman]

9. I guess that'll make Nancy Reagan think twice

[DBoon]

16. Almost makes me wish he made this threat 25 years ago

nt

[Gman]

10. .

[Canuckistanian]

11. Man, don't mess with them sorcerers

[Ediacara]

13. This is the 21st century?

[ohio2007]

14. They still worship the moon phases so look whos calling the kettle

black magic with that "sorcerer" screed of his

More evidence
of Saudi doubletalk?
Judge caught on tape
encouraging Saudis
to fight in Iraq

By Lisa Myers & the NBC Investigative Unit
updated 7:28 p.m. ET, Tues., April. 26, 2005


WASHINGTON - Sheik Saleh Al Luhaidan, seen in video seated to the right of the crown prince, is chief justice of Saudi Arabia's Supreme Judicial Council. His sermons and words carry great significance.

In an audiotape secretly recorded at a government mosque last October and obtained by NBC News, Luhaidan encourages young Saudis to go to Iraq to wage war against Americans.


snip


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7645118/

Secretly recording his own words in the house of alla ? Well,
is nothing sacred?

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=513_1221402157

[UndertheOcean]

23. No they don't ....

[Freddie Stubbs]

29. No, but Allah did start out as a Pagan moon god

http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/0042/0042_01.asp

[UndertheOcean]

30. Right wing bullshit

I should alert on you for posting such a link

[ohio2007]

34. they watch it religiously for its signal to start their holy month

but they don't call it astrology in that part of the believing world. Can't argue it is held in high regard




many moslems have been told the Danish flag is offensive



now why would they say that?

And under the radar, they turn on their own minority sects in Pakistan and other places already talked about


PAKISTAN: Two persons murdered after an anchor person proposed the widespread lynching of Ahmadi sect followers
http://www.ahrchk.net/ua/mainfile.php/2008/2999/

If you prefer a link from an "unbeliever" sight, they don't get much more unbelieving then this crew;

Violence Against Ahmadi Muslims Spikes After Pakistani TV Broadcast

http://www.atheistforums.com/muslim-protests-against-ahmadiyya-t9721.html

[UndertheOcean]

36. Because the calender is Moon Based, Jews do the exact same thing, are they moon god worshippers ?

This is ridiculous... I don't care about religion, but I do care about ignorant people spewing right wing talking points.

[Tutankhamun]

15. Thank God we have religion to save us from silly superstitions.

:sarcasm:

[and-justice-for-all]

19. My magic is better than your magic....

blah blah blah...IT'S ALL FUCKIN' FAKE!

[Bubbha Jo]

24. No, not all of it is.

There are those very aware of the power of our mind. We'll find out the whys and hows when we understand the quantum level of matter more.

[and-justice-for-all]

27. Sorry, but there is NO such thing as magic Mr. Potter..nt

[Bubbha Jo]

31. Believe what you wish

then go read up on focus, creative visualization, power of positive thinking, etc. Even quantum physicists have admitted matter at that level is driven by conscious thought.

I bet you don't believe in telepathy either, eh? The Army sure does:

http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1841108,00.html

[and-justice-for-all]

33. uh huh. nt

:crazy:

[ohio2007]

35. It's not Potter, it's. Hubbard.... L. Ron Hubbard

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L._Ron_Hubbard:_Messiah_or_Madman?


just a hunch
I don't think the story of a living mohammad ascending into heaven would fly in his crowd either.

It sounds like a copyright infringement lawsuit to me.

ok
only plagiarism

in a sharia court of law

[Chovexani]

20. Reaction from Hogwarts:

Professor Snape released a statement to the press saying, "50 points from Saudi Arabia".

[Love Bug]

28. Bwahahhaha!

[Vidar]

22. Death sentences for certain clerics would solve the problem.

[PerceptionManagement]

25. You could easily re-write the second to last sentence thusly and still be correct:

In their capacity as judges, republicans of the USA's austere form of conservatism often sentence "liberals" to death.

[Overseas]

26. You see the beauty of a government run by folks who are Directed by God ?

Wahabi Islam. Dealth penalties. Chop off limbs. Stoning for adultery.


But maybe Palin's Wahabi Christians won't want to stone Johnny to death for his adultery. Maybe if he repents and is baptised into their church he can be saved?

[Endangered Specie]

32. Forget the sorcorers, go after The Hills first!

;)

[JVS]

38. If only we could get these clerics to become televangelist types, I'm sure they'd accept a fine...

instead of demanding death.