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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 12:05 PM
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Iraq 'victory within sight': Palin
Source: AP/Yahoo

33 minutes ago

STERLING HEIGHTS, Michigan (AFP) A US victory in Iraq is "within sight," Republican vice presidential contender Sarah Palin said Friday.

Palin attributed the imminent success to the surge of troops sent to Iraq last year who have helped quell violence there.

"He refused to break faith with the troops in Iraq who have now brought victory within sight," the Alaska governor told an enthusiastic crowd in Sterling Heights, Michigan.

"And as a mother of one of those troops that is exactly the kind of man I want as commander in chief."

Read more: http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5iqxNiMAc0yxraFvJboe...





Republican vice presidential candidate Alaska Governor Sarah Palin pauses during her speech at a campaign event in Sterling Heights, Michigan on September 5, 2008. A US victory in Iraq is "within sight," Palin said Friday.
(AFP/File/Robyn Beck)
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Prefer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 12:06 PM
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1. I thought we won it the third day
what was mission accomplished about?
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DebbieCDC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 12:07 PM
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2. Look at those scary eyes
Edited on Sat Sep-06-08 12:08 PM by DebbieCDC
Fanatics are always dangerous people
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 12:12 PM
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9. Vapid empty arrogance
After look at several pictures of her that is what is resonating with me. There is a lot to be said for confidence and she has tons of it...why I am not sure but she is not one of those people who ponder such things. Forward ever forward- no man, weakness, tearing her children apart is going to stop her.
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DogPoundPup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 03:04 PM
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40. She get new glasses?
I thought the other ones were brown framed and these ones look to be clear/no visible frame.
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Zombie2 Donating Member (678 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 12:08 PM
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3. She's not the mother....
...of one of THOSE troops!
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gulliver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 12:49 PM
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23. Exactly. Another lie to make herself look good.
Edited on Sat Sep-06-08 12:50 PM by gulliver
Her son hasn't deployed, but she talks as if he were one of the troops who she praises for bringing "victory within sight." That is clearly intentionally giving a false impression--a lie.
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Zombie2 Donating Member (678 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 02:44 PM
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39. a disturbing trend?
YES!

"That is clearly intentionally giving a false impression--a lie."

Same with the jet on ebay false impression (McLame said she sold it on ebay, which she didn't).... the "bridge to nowhere" false impression... and nearly everything else that comes out of Plain/McLames mouth. I just wish the MSM would hold them accountable when they false impress like this.
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Dont_Bogart_the_Pretzel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 03:14 PM
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43. IF he did get deployed, he probably get a desk job in the green zone!
Edited on Sat Sep-06-08 03:16 PM by Dont_Bogart_the_Pret
edit: can't spell
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 04:23 PM
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46. I read Track will be guarding the Top Brass...
Edited on Sat Sep-06-08 04:35 PM by Karenina
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

Where's that "his kid, your kid" graphic? Anyone got it handy?
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 01:28 PM
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60. He certainly did get a REMF assignment
what a surprise
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marylanddem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 12:08 PM
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I don't think her lame pronouncements should get any coverage

since she's not willing to answer reporters' questions.
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bjobotts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 02:04 PM
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33. She doesn't even know what "victory" is. She can't define it.
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bjobotts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 02:05 PM
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34. It was Bush's bad decision to fire the Iraq army that began the insurgency
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bjobotts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 02:06 PM
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35. We won't have "victory" til those who caused this are out of office...permanently.
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Virginian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 02:30 PM
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37. You beat me to it, "Define Victory" was my response to that. n/t
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 12:08 PM
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4. Palin answers to public questions: NOT IN SIGHT
What are she and the republicons hiding from the public?
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 12:10 PM
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7. They DID let her go outside today
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 12:09 PM
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5. repub framing - "obama does not want victory" - they are masters at it nt
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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 12:09 PM
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6. Victory is Mine!

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brooklynite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 12:11 PM
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8. Sort of like "time horizons"
You can always see them but you never get there.....
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 12:20 PM
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10. It is a matter of "faith" don'tyaknow
O8)
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mrJJ Donating Member (657 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 12:23 PM
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11. She needs a new eyeglass prescription
The U$ economy is on sound footing too....
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 12:25 PM
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12. Oooh!
that was good :thumbsup:

:rofl:
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paparush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 12:27 PM
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13. "How can you kill innocent women and children?"
Palin - "You just have to lead them a little less."
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nc4bo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 12:33 PM
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14. wtf does she know? Does she even know where Iraq is on a map? nt
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 08:08 PM
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53. don't you know she has foreign policy experience
because Alaska is close to Russia? :sarcasm:
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 12:33 PM
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15. It disgusts me that NO ONE in the media mentions al-Sadr's ceasefire from Aug. '07.
If you look at the casualty trend, it dropped dramatically right after the ceasefire went into effect, which is months after the surge began.

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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 12:35 PM
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16. The surge, like everything else, is merely a political ploy
They created a NEW war one that they couldn't lose this time. Well at least they claim to have won which is all that matters. To them.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 08:10 PM
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54. let us call it for what it is instead of "surge" it is an "escalation"
surge part of that bushspeak, let us speak like adults for once.
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 12:37 PM
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17. Two things;
1. Define "victory", for a nation that currently is the most violent civil war in the world.

2. Is Ms. Palin lying, or just totally ignorant?
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jimshoes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 12:42 PM
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18. How would she know this?
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 12:42 PM
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19. By the way, Ms. Palin, about that "breaking faith with the troops"...
U.S. Troops in Iraq: 72% Say End War in 2006
http://www.zogby.com/news/readnews.dbm?id=1075

Majority of troops dissatisfied with handling of war; believe war was wrong
http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/20...

But ignoring the troops = "keeping faith with the troops". When you're a stupid MFing repuvlican.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 01:04 PM
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27. Excellent information
also I believe the story a few weeks ago was that troops in Iraq/Afghanistan gave to Obama over McCain 6:1
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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 12:44 PM
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20. Oh God.. is Biden now going to say "As the father of one of those troops"... etc.
The republicans don't care WHO they exploit.
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BearSquirrel2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 12:45 PM
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21. US Victory in Vietnam within sight !!!!
Edited on Sat Sep-06-08 01:11 PM by BearSquirrel2
Yeah, it was always 6 months away.

There are two double edged swords on the ground in Iraqnam right now. First is the fact that neighborhoods have become balkanized. Instead of being integrated, they've changed it to look more like Chicago ;-) Except it's a VERY heavily armed Chicago with deep religious emnity. The fact that Baghdad is now less integrated means that their is less value in being friendly. It reinforces the tribal mentality and devalues organization at the civil level, that is city and states instead of tribes.

The second long dagger is that they're literally bribing the militias not to fight. Well, this cannot continue forever. The true measure of "success" in a nation building effort is whether you can leave without the place falling apart. Well guess what??? As soon as we leave and stop paying tribute to the militias, they will be at it again. And now, they will be more heavily armed as we've financed the enemies of the Iraqi government.

This of course, is all just theater for the 2008 election. I was for the "surge" when John Kerry proposed it. In fact, I was for the "surge" when General Shinseki suggested it before any of this started. I was for the surge when Colin Powell stated it as part of his famous doctrine. Instead, Bush and Rumsfeld tried to low ball their Iraq effort for reasons of politics (no draft) and graft (more money for private contractors). The result was we got behind the 8-ball and allowed a domestic insurgency to form (it was never Al-Queda the Iraqi militias hate those guys by virtue of them behind both Arab and Wahhabi).

So now ... it's done. If the goal of victory is to leave a Democracy in our wake, we have lost. Their goal is to use Iraq as political theater for whatever the next election is. So in that context, I get "Mission Accomplished".

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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 01:07 PM
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28. You are dead on right about it being merely political theater
that's all it ever was. They tried to create a new war-one they could claim victory of and the only purpose is more "with us or against us" wedge issues (btw "with us or against us" likewise was only for domestic consumption. It was/is political theater as well)

As Frank Rich so accurately described as "empty spectacle" such are the Bush years.
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mwb970 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 12:49 PM
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22. I haven't heard a single new idea from her yet.
Absolutely everything she says either sounds like bush himself or like the wackos that support him. She seems clever, but not wise. Confident, but not competent. Attractive on the outside, but not the inside.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 01:14 PM
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30. Talk radio
She is just talk radio in human form. Their entire convention was nothing but inane talk radio rhetoric which explains why it clearly didn't resonate with the mass public-you pretty much have to develop a tolerance and immersion into that world to consider it reasonable. You and I may be aware of it but most people aren't
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mwb970 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 01:22 PM
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32. That's a great insight.
I hadn't thought of it that way! But indeed, I had the same reaction to her RNC speech ("Turn that off! Turn that off!") that I have when I accidentally hear Rush Limbaugh.

Also, her refusal to be questioned by the press (8 days so far without a single question being asked) mirrors the basically one-way nature of radio.

Has there been a more worthless VP candidate? (Don't say Dan Quayle, he had plenty of acknowledged foreign policy expertise from his time in the Senate.) Spiro Agnew?
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Shiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 12:54 PM
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24. And it begins....
You know, at least McCain had the decency not to bring up his own kid that was over there.

You wanna show you care more about your family than about politics, Madam Governor? Don't bring up you soldier kid. Especially not on TV that can be seen around the freakin' world. Hint hint.


~Shiver
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 01:04 PM
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26. Welcome to DU
:hi:
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bullwinkle428 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 12:58 PM
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25. How do you "win" an occupation, Barbie?
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Sewsojm Donating Member (554 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 01:13 PM
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29. America doesn't need McSame ,
We've got General Pit Bull Palin,

Go eat shit and bark at the moon Sarah!!
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Swagman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 01:19 PM
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31. she probably thinks all the Iraqi moose have been shot
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kurth_ Donating Member (395 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 02:15 PM
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36. Damn - Mission Not Accomplished YET?
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barbtries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 02:32 PM
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38. so she goes
and she gives her little canned speeches. and she takes no questions. and she grants no interviews. and we're supposed to elect her. i don't think so.
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APPLE_PIE Donating Member (55 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 03:04 PM
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41. USA Death Toll greater than 200 since surge started
The USA Death Toll IS greater than 200 since surge started and the recommendations from the top military advisers is not to reduce the troop deployment at this time. The surge is not working and anyone who says different should withdraw their head from their ass and look around. Victory is not within sight and won't be for a hundred years.

APPLE_PIE
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 03:07 PM
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42. Iraq 'victory within sight': Palin
Miss Thang needs a new eyeware prescription...or maybe a journey onto the land of reality.
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MNBrewer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 03:39 PM
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44. It's been within site for how many years now?
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bamacrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 03:46 PM
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45. How is victory defined?
When we have no money and are in ruins ourselves? Or when all Iraqis are dead?
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PatrynXX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 04:30 PM
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47. Not quite the same but...
They pulled Harry out of Afghanistan, once the media leaked it. Since he's in a bit of a line to the throne in England.

Anybody thought maybe Sarah shouldn't make a big deal her son is over in Iraq. He might become a kidnap target. Or maybe she's just using her son for political gain in case he really is kidnapped.
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 05:11 PM
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48. Major combat operations are over! There's good news from Iraq! We got their #2 guy! We've turned
the corner!

I may a missed a few
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and-justice-for-all Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 07:25 PM
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49. Bullshit...
all these repig asshats do is to try and sell their bullshit and poor judgement.

Iraq, to her and her ilk, is a christo-fascist crusade.
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llmart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 07:54 PM
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50. I caught the first sentence out of her mouth.......
on live, local news on Friday. It was something like "I'm glad to be with you here in beautiful Sterling Heights, Michigan." Now, Sterling Heights may be many things, but "beautiful"???? I don't think so.

What an idiot.
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sutz12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 07:57 PM
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51. The horizon is always in sight....you just can't reach it.
:shrug:
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 08:05 PM
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52. She can eff off because she made a comment about not ever
thinking about Iraq, she was more concerned about her state of Alaska. She is someone who cannot be trusted that is for sure.
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lumpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 10:25 AM
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57. Phony beotch, where does she get off trying to imply that
she is an expert on Bush's Iraq war, as though she had something to do with it's 'progress'. She is the biggest lie ever to gain noteriety in the political scene. Another phony lipstick wearing pig.
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 08:56 PM
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55. "Light at the End of the Tunnel"
That's what was said about Vietnam after a gazillion years of being over there.
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tannybogus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 09:03 PM
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56. How does she know?
She hasn't even been paying attention!
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Xenotime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 11:00 AM
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58. Oh like she has some fucking big insight into the war now.
Shut up.
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Amonester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 11:25 AM
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59. It's just around the CORNER...
Never mind it's costing the (fewer and fewer) American taxpayers 10 billion a month to PAY the fighters for them to 'keep quiet' until someone decides to 'fire' them all (off the payroll...).

So, is that her definition of VICTORY? Why noone inside the sold-out M$M ever point that out to her/him??


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