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Cherchez la Femme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 04:15 PM
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Archives of Alaska Papers Reveal Disturbing -- And Goofy -- Details from Palin's Past
Source: Editor & Publisher

NEW YORK The McCain team may not have vetted Sarah Palin with boots on the ground in Alaska, but the Democrats sure did -- two years ago when she ran for governor. The oppo-research, compiled in a 62-page document with countless summaries or direct quotes, largely from local newspapers, covers all of the important issues you would expect to see, from her views on abortion and abstinence to tangled oil pipeline questions.

*snip*

USED PUBLIC FUNDS FOR POLITICAL GAIN

In her 2002 Lt. Governor bid, Mayor Palin used city employees, telephones, computers, fax machines for campaign fundraising and literature. On her candidate registration form, she used her City Hall fax number, and her mayoral e-mail address. Records show that Wasilla city property was used to contact supporters, donors, media contacts, and media purchasing.

*snip*

GENDER CARD

Stambaugh Sued for Gender Discrimination After Palin Said She Was Intimidated by His Size. After Palin fired Irl Stambaugh, the police chief, he sued the city in part based on gender discrimination. The Frontiersman wrote, "The gender discrimination issues stem from statements Palin allegedly made to others that she was intimidated by Stambaugh's size. He stands over 6-feet tall and weighs more than 200 pounds, which, the lawsuit said, is attributed to his gender."

*snip*

LYING

Palin Exaggerated Work Experience for Mayoral Campaign. In 1997, Frontiersman columnist Paul Stuart wrote that after Palin had criticized her opponent for using City Hall resources for political gain, "when Palin was asked back then (by me) why the lodge where she claimed, in her campaign, to have gained her management experience, had no record of a borough business license or of paying any bed tax, she paused and said it might have been because the place had no clients for a year or so." In an article describing the possibility of recalling Palin, the Frontiersman wrote the "reasons include Palin's alleged falsification of her credentials during the campaign last fall."

Frontiersman Editorial Said Palin Made Statements That Were "Patently Untrue," Said She Had Shown "Unrepentant Backpedaling and Incessant Whining." A Frontiersman editorial wrote, "Wasilla residents have been subjected to attempts to unlawfully appoint council members, statements that have been shown to be patently untrue, unrepentant backpedaling, and incessant whining that her only enemies are the press and a few disgruntled supporters of former Mayor John Stein."

Read more: http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_di...



LOTS more, such as she was sued (in part) because "she was intimidated by Stambaugh's (the police chief she fired) size"
-- all the world leaders she would deal with better be midgets or this country could be in bigger trouble than anyone ever thought possible; difficult to conceptualize, I know!


Be sure to Digg it!
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 04:16 PM
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1. Napoleon complex?
What a nutcase.
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stevietheman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 06:29 PM
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14. I guess that's a psychological term for the much cuter "Nazirific!" :) n/t
n/t
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Born Free Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 03:14 AM
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60. She Was Intimidated by His Size
Seems unusual for a woman claiming to be intimidated by size and referring to height and weight. We did have a woman file discrimination charges against a "big" coworker that wore sweat pants to work without under garments, she claimed it offended her. If Palin were a democrat, the right would have wild time spinning stories about this one.
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SissyBoy Donating Member (30 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 07:31 PM
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26. Nutty and Evil.
We must destroy Palin.
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Mnemosyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 09:19 PM
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51. Destroy? Is that like telling the truth? Just stopping her is enough.
:shrug:
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nam78_two Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 11:00 PM
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57. Destroy Palin?
Defeating her is sufficient for most Democrats-but then you knew that already...
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mwb970 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 08:24 PM
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37. She really is a wacko.
I hope she crashes and burns soon.
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Wizard777 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 09:07 PM
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47. Couldn't be her French is tres mauvais (very bad.)
"Rouge Cru" is French. It translates to Red Vintage or Red Wine. Not redneck. So if she lives in a prohibition town. She could be a bootlegger.
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glinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 09:17 PM
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49. Nutcase
I find her frightening in that I have met someone like her. When I looked in her eyes on tv, "they were souless". Kinda like Bush and Putin I guess. LOL.
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Anakin Skywalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 02:58 AM
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59. McCant is Perfect for Her!
The tough twerp is only 5' 7". He'll make her look good. And they are both mental midgets.
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 04:20 PM
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2. Wonderful
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silverweb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 04:29 PM
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3. Bookmarked for later.
This is good news I'll want to enjoy at my leisure. :evilgrin:

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4lbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 04:30 PM
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4. This is what happens...
when a candidate like McCant just pulls a name out of thin air without the proper vetting.

He now has the gall to complain that the media and most of America is doing the work that he and his staff should have been doing for months?

Unbelievable.
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madeline_con Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 06:57 PM
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19. Well, when ya can't work the internets... n/t
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trthnd4jstc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 04:33 PM
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5. Some of us are taller, some shorter, some smaller, some larger. Not intimidating. n/t
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Lautremont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 04:36 PM
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6. Let's see:
- Won't stop saying "Under God" until the phrase is "pulled from her cold, dead lips,";

- Presided over a wedding at Wal Mart;

- Thinks Ivana Trump is the height of culture and glamour;

- Enthusiastic supporter of the death penalty;

- Serial dissembler, given to exaggerating her credentials;

- "Doesn't Grasp the Truth," according to colleagues;

- Brother-in-law appeared on a reality show called "Looking for Love: Bachelorettes in Alaska."

My gosh, they've discovered the perfect GOP candidate.
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4lbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 04:51 PM
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7. She's another Stepford Wife of the GOP
n/t
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dennysp Donating Member (210 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 09:23 PM
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52. You Pulled The Thought Out of My Brain!!!
This is my first time paying close attention to politics, and I see republicans LYING LIKE DOGS! and proud of it!!! Mitt Romney to McCain: "Facts are stubborn things!" Yep. The truth will out; Sarah Palin is just in her element, probably getting massages by Karl Rove!
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onethatcares Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 04:56 PM
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8. so if she pulls out or is tossed aside,
what will these rightwingnutbags that have been backing her all the way do? Jump off the bridge to nowhere? I mean it's gotta be hell to be so deluded into believing the first name pulled out of the hat had to go to a woman of all things and not one of the manly chickenhearts that were gonna be the next greatest thing. :rofl:
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Cherchez la Femme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 05:13 PM
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9. Oops!
Edited on Wed Sep-03-08 05:13 PM by Cherchez la Femme
I meant to clip that "Gender Card" paragraph, since the post ended up with 5 paragraphs (I CAN count!) :)
which is why I mentioned that at the end

...this is my first top level post, should I edit it out now? I think it's coming up to the time limit to be able to edit...

Any advice?
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Ghost Dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 05:47 PM
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12. It's cool, Cherchez.
Edited on Wed Sep-03-08 05:53 PM by Ghost Dog
:hi: :)

edit: let me add, on a related note here:

Sarah Palin questions Sarah Palin's experience

Laura McGann of the Washington Independent has been skulking around Wasilla, Alaska, and committing some excellent journalism in the process. Here's one gem from her trawl through the archives of the local newspaper, the Mat-Su Valley Frontiersman. In an article in October 1996, the new mayor of Wasilla was asked about her plans to shake things up. How would she run the city without experienced leaders?

"It's not rocket science," Palin said. "It's $6 million and 53 employees."

Also, an amusing fact: Palin beat her rival in that mayoral election by 616 votes to 413.

/... http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/oliverburkemanblog/2008... (further links at link)
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trickyguy Donating Member (461 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 05:29 PM
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10. I say toss her out with the garbage. She's tainted.
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dennysp Donating Member (210 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 09:25 PM
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53. They're ALL Tainted. She Fits In Just Fine! Just Sink the Whole
stinking boatload!
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amandabeech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 05:35 PM
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11. She used her mayoral fax machine number and e-mail number
in her campaign for lt. governor.

Now, she's trying to get her former bil fired by using her pull as governor.

This woman has absolutely no sense of ethics or the nature of public service.

Can you imagine her in the oval office?

She's just what the pubbies ordered.
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DBoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 06:30 PM
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15. remember the crap Al Gore got for this?
For violating a century old law that had NEVER been enforced because he made marginal use of WH facilities for fund raising?

Did the republicans let this one slide? NEVER


Will we let Sara Palin's actions slide? NEVER
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Myrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 06:24 PM
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13. ... well considering the plethora of MENTAL midgets in the GOP ...
... I can see where she'd be intimidated by someone of some intellectual size.

She's going to have a nervous breakdown before she's even in the same building with Biden!!!


:rofl:
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verges Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 08:27 PM
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40. How tall is Biden?
Should he ask first thing at the debates if he should sit down so he doesn't intimidate her?

Y'know...six foot 200 lbs really isn't that big.
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Plucketeer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 06:31 PM
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16. Runner up - beauty pageant
She knows she's got these little "liberties" coming to her. :rofl:
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Overseas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 06:40 PM
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17. K&R -- just in case God doesn't really want Palin to be VP //nt
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 06:52 PM
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18. "incessant whining" LOL
and incessant whining that her only enemies are the press and a few disgruntled supporters of former Mayor John Stein."


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d_b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 07:01 PM
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20. WAL MART WEDDING FOR THE WIN!
Edited on Wed Sep-03-08 07:02 PM by d_b
He worked in the pets department. She was a cashier. A romance blossomed. And when it came time to say ''I do,'' they chose -- where else? -- an aisle next to menswear. Sandwiched between racks of cotton pants and surrounded by ''Back-to-School Specials'' signs, Jake McCowan and Rosalyn Ryan exchanged vows last week at the place where they met, work and fell in love: the Wasilla Wal-Mart. A crowd of 200, including passengers from a tour bus and several dozen curious shoppers, watched the two employees tie the knot in an afternoon ceremony officiated by Wasilla Mayor Sarah Palin. ''It was so sweet,'' said Palin, who fought back tears during the nuptials. "It was so Wasilla."
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 07:48 PM
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33. Deleted message
Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.
 
Marnieworld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 08:02 PM
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34. That's a really offensive phrase
Edited on Wed Sep-03-08 08:13 PM by Marnieworld
Not very DU or progressive to call someone "White Trash Scum". Scum just because of where they work huh?
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SissyBoy Donating Member (30 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 09:02 PM
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46. Yeah A Bit Over The Top I Agree
But this Nazi Bush has got me crazy. I mean stupidity is no excuse to stand to these rightwing nuts. If Obama wins maybe my blood pressure will come down. Got to keep the gameface on.
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verges Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 08:31 PM
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41. Tacky? Yes,
A disqualifier for VP? No.
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d_b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 06:07 AM
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61. oh, I didn't say 'for the win' for that
but for your reason. That's fucking hilarious.
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Manifestor_of_Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 04:03 AM
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65. How could a politician officiate at a wedding?
She's not a licensed clergy member, nor is she a judge of any kind. You can be married by a J.P., county judge(not the guy who is head of the county commissioners court), district judge, Federal Judge, Appellate Judge. Basically any judge who sits in a court and hears cases, except for traffic court.

Judges generally have a law license. She did not go to law school.


Can any politican officiate at a wedding in Alaska? :shrug:


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Nihil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 06:52 AM
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66. Deleted by poster
Edited on Fri Sep-05-08 06:59 AM by Nihil
People who would get *married* in a *Walmart* ... I'll just leave it there ...
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SemperEadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 07:04 PM
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21. what is the primary reason to pick someone who has no experience?
so that you can tell them what to do because they don't know any better.

The same minions of bush and cheney are more than likely going to retain their jobs in the old man's administration--because he's going to need them to keep bush's juggernaut going.

Anyone else with any kind of experience would be harder to keep in line than would Palin.

She don't know what she doesn't know adn that is dangerous to our national security.
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4lbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 07:09 PM
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22. Could also be because McCain doesn't want a woman who is more intelligent than he is
otherwise he'd look like a doofus to everyone, not just those with a brain.

That's why he surrounds himself with beauty queens and cute little Barbies that he can control.
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gypsylud Donating Member (225 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 07:16 PM
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23. Is it America first or Alaska first?
http://www.thedemocraticstrategist.org/strategist/2008/...

"...there's been an interesting buzz in the background about Palin's relationship with the Alaska Independence Party."
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SissyBoy Donating Member (30 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 07:44 PM
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32. This should concern everyone.
Great link.

The Independence Party is a wacko fringe group. This stuff should get more airplay. Send it to KO.
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mcg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 08:51 PM
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43. She would have the US capitol moved to Anchorage. nt
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Just-plain-Kathy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 10:43 PM
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55. Maybe she'd hand Alaska over to Big Oil altogether. ...Dubia II...n/t
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movonne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 07:29 PM
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24. All good....
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 07:31 PM
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25. Looks like whining about the press is supposed to be the focal point of her speech tonight.
Edited on Wed Sep-03-08 07:37 PM by valerief
:nopity:

And this at the editorandpublisher.com link
Palin Explained that She Couldn't Run for Senate Because Then She Couldn't Be the "Team Mom." "A hockey mom and a former standout athlete herself, Palin said she understood her son's concerns. 'How could I be the team mom if I was a U.S. senator?' she said."


But she has no qualms about being veep now with a brand-new special needs baby.

:shrug:
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SissyBoy Donating Member (30 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 07:35 PM
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27. I Bet Palin Will Ask ...
"Why is the media and the Obama campaign more interested my daughter's sex life than Obama's record?" I bet she will stoop that low. You watch.

How far should KO go to destroy this biotch?
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 07:41 PM
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30. All KO has to do is be a responsible journalist and not a shill.
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SissyBoy Donating Member (30 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 07:43 PM
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31. Huh?
Idealism sounds great but doesn't work. KO knows the game and he will through.
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nam78_two Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 10:54 PM
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56. Subtle
Edited on Wed Sep-03-08 10:55 PM by nam78_two
Why is the media and the Obama campaign more interested my daughter's sex life than Obama's record?" I bet she will stoop that low. You watch.

How far should KO go to destroy this biotch?
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4lbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 08:27 PM
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39. Wouldn't that make her one of Phil Gramm's "whiners" ?
n/t
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 07:36 PM
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28. The real issue is that McCain has proven he has no business running anything let alone the country
What a horrible mistake. This woman, she's not even remotely prepared for the big-time, not even close. She's probably not prepared to be governor of Alaska, but at least she built support to validate her election. In the end, this is all McCain, he makes hasty, irrational, panicked and ill-conceived decisions. Again, do you really want John McCain to have nuclear weapons at his disposal? Do you really want him representing our country in any type of negotiations? He's ignorant and dangerous.
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SissyBoy Donating Member (30 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 07:41 PM
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29. The Problem We Have ...
(and don't get me wrong, Obama is the guy) is the "experience" debate. But the "experience" argument or fight is exactly what McCain wants. Don't fall for that. It is what the republithugs want to debate.
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savistocate Donating Member (406 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 08:09 PM
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35. That is what they want..likely. Isn't it obvious Obama's experience on NATIONAL level..she has zero
We will make it obvious.

Even as she speaks now(not on my TV,radio or stream) that horrendous awful Fuuuuuhhh-LAT FLAT A's.

Just one phrase--''all those free free people -like women?--in Iraq rah rah.''
Then hear in your head steady wisdom conveying sound of Sen Obama's voice--Sen Biden's voice. And this dippitydoo?
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jeff30997 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 08:24 PM
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38. dippitydoo?
You're so mean!
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 08:55 PM
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44. I don't mean anything about experience
It's judgment. Nobody really cares about experience when they believe the other person doesn't get "it." Most people don't care about Obama's experience or perceived lack of it, they care about what he brings to the table. And if you can make people think that John McCain is a disaster who can't even make a decent VP pick, that's a good thing. Obama picked up on this when he said "John McCain is a good man, he just doesn't get it."

The key is to show just why he doesn't get "it." Experience and issues really don't matter in elections. People will vote for the person who they think looks good and sounds like they know what they are talking about, and who they feel will look after their best interests. People who are strong Dems or strong Repubs will have certain litmus tests, but a lot of people really don't. If you notice during 2006, populist Dems whipped some ass, even on more experienced opponents. People like Jon Tester and Jim Webb beat career entrenched and cash rich Republicans in Red States, because people simply believed they would look out for their interests more. In the end, if people are comfortable with Obama's personality - it appears they are- plus they think he looks out for their interests, he'll win. It helps that it's a big Dem year like 2006 too.
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grannylib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 08:23 PM
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36. She's intimidated by a big guy in Alaska?? WTF is she gonna do
with a world leader? If she's that big a chickenshit, how the hell is she tough enough to be veep??
This is such bullshit.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 09:13 AM
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63. Seems to me you'd want a big guy for that job
Someone say, whose presence commanded a little respect and who didn't have to resort to deadly force.

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Dead Elephant Donating Member (68 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 08:33 PM
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42. Cant wait to hear her speech tonight
The media pundits are going to say she was amazing.
Please end this nightmare

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Seldona Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 09:00 PM
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45. K&R
We need more Diggs though. LOTS more Diggs.
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NBachers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 09:19 PM
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50. Dontate Donate Donate
We need to donate. Lots of donations. This is the presidential election; we need to donate to Barack Obama. It's imperative. That's how we overcome the Palin factor. She's in for the long hall. She ain't leaving.
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Seldona Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 03:25 AM
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64. Agreed.
Money talks, bs walks. An old saying but quite apt.
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EC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 09:14 PM
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48. She has set women back another 20 years now...
because of this candidates will use this as an excuse not to run with women on their ticket again...and it'll be used as an excuse not to back women or contribute to their campainges..the only way will be for another woman to come up with her own money to run top ticket like Hillary...


She hasn't helped the woman's cause, she's hurt it...
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dixiegrrrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 09:40 PM
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54. Karl Rove had Alabama Dem Sec. of State taken down for what Palin got away with !!!
Part of the state wide attacks on Dems. included Repub. State Attorney General Troy King ( now up on charges against him for other things)
charging the Sec. of State Worley for campaigning for re-election using office stationary.
Worley was resisting the Alabama Voter ID push.

God, I hope she and her lawyers read this about Palin.

( Siegleman was on Democracy Now with Amy Goodman tonight, btw).

I am steaming mad at the moment...
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Third Doctor Donating Member (213 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 12:16 AM
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58. fabricated work experience?
Where have we heard that before?
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 06:13 AM
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62. Sweet
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