Palin says Iraq war is 'task from God'

[DogPoundPup]

Source: UPI

WASHINGTON, Sept. 3 (UPI) -- Likely Republican U.S. vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin told her church congregation that the Iraq war was part of God's plan, a videotape revealed.

A 14-minute video of a speech the Alaska governor delivered in June to the Wasilla, Alaska, Assembly of God Church and posted Tuesday on the Huffington Post Web site showed her saying the United States' involvement in Iraq is "a task that is from God."

She is seen saying: "Pray for our military men and women who are striving to do what is right. Also for this country, that our leaders, our national leaders, are sending (troops) out on a task that is from God. That's what we have to make sure that we're praying for, that there is a plan and that that plan is God's plan."

In the speech, she tells the congregation that building a long-sought, 1,715-mile natural gas pipeline from Prudhoe Bay, Alaska to Alberta, Canada, is also part of God's plan.

Read more: http://www.upi.com/Top_News/2008/09/03/Palin_says_Iraq_... /

[saigon68]

1. She is a Fucking Nut Job

[DogPoundPup]

16. Read about the Fucking Nut Job and how she overtook the little town of Wasilla

Read this to get up-to-date ...
http://www.newsobserver.com/politics/story/1204252.html

If you can...please Digg article at http://digg.com/politics/As_mayor_Palin_brought_culture ...

Also posted at DU http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

[saigon68]

23. Appalling

Ann Kilkenny, a Democrat who said she attended every City Council meeting in Palin's first year in office, said Palin brought up the idea of banning some books at a council meeting. "They were somehow morally or socially objectionable to her," Kilkenny said.

The librarian, Mary Ellen Emmons, pledged to "resist all efforts at censorship," Kilkenny recalled. The mayor fired Emmons shortly after taking office but rescinded the termination after residents made a strong show of support. Emmons, who left her job and Wasilla a couple of years later, declined to comment for this article.

[progressivebydesign]

30. bet you 100 mooseburgers that her church friends filled those jobs. n/t

[saigon68]

61. They probably did

And thanks to the internet we'll find out

[HopeHoops]

33. I thought the Knights Templar excluded women!

[NeoTheo]

52. McCain just didn't want to deal with the religious nut jobs

So they found this gal to be their Jesus whore this election. And of course the fundies are fawning all over here.

I have to ask if Obama had a daughter that was knocked up you know these same people would be throwing at all kinds of bile. What happened to the effectiveness of the Pub's abstinence programs, did daddy forget to take her to the chastity ball? Or is the whole family a bunch of whores.

The intellectual dishonesty that has become the Republican party is just astounding.

[sinkingfeeling]

2. Making the MSM???

[pegleg]

3. I would seriously have to question anything from UPI though.

It is part of Reverend Moon's empire.

[ixion]

8. nothing to question... the video is available on youtube

just sayin'...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0UQbA0ZmmM

[thereismore]

4. What a puke. Is there another nation where this kind of language is OK? nt

[YOY]

5. Iran.

n.t.

[Jackpine Radical]

21. Exactly. Iran.

That's what's so scary about the current world situation-you've got the two biggest nutjob nations--us and them-facing off on each other, each convinced that the Big Guy in the Sky is on their side. And we've got nukes.

[Igel]

44. Nowhere, inshallah.

God willing, nobody would ever speak like that.

For those who believe that Jesus intervenes in their life, vacations, jobs, projects, and just about everything else is part of God's plan. And we're to pray that our plans match God's plans.

It's not just the words. It's the semiotics.

I don't use "God" except in a referential sort of way. No "God damn", no "Jesus Christ!" as swear words or words of shock and surprise. And would I really want to ask God to send somebody or something to spend eternity in hellfire, just because they cut me off and I lost *my* temper, or didn't hit a nail right and want the hammer to pay for eternity? I think not, even were I to believe in hell. I don't say "God bless you" when you sneeze, I say "excuse me" when I sneeze and "Gesundheit" when others sneeze. I say "thank God" when I seriously want to thank God; not something I've done much of in recent memory.

I took Arabic, and many Arabs have "alhamdulillah" and "inshallah" dripping off their lips every other sentence. We were expected to internalize this usage to be communicatively competent and culturally competent. Somebody complained, and the teacher said the religious and irreligious do it--it's just a verbal tic for many people, and expected in many instances. "Do it, and it's only meaning is that you're behaving appropriately in a conversation. Don't do it, and you sound like you're trying to be weird." "Cultural competence" is something that needs to have more attention paid to it. Unless you're culturally competent, what's said by the Other is going to be misinterpreted and misunderstood through your own cultural centrism.

Both sides do it, in equal measure. Some on both sides assume they're justified in doing it, they and only they are right. I've been on both sides many times--repub and dem friends, atheist and fundie friends, cold-warriors and fellow-travellers--and watched people do it to others and have it done to them, and I've been on the receiving end from numerous sets of diametrically opposed sets of morons. On the same day. On the same issue. Bad news, all around. It's one reason I like being a translator and linguist. It's fun to watch how utterances change meaning in context, to learn new systems of signification and discourse, and see how it's butt-obvious when you know the system what somebody means given the context and discourse, but most people, even those who claim to be native speakers, can't be bothered to summon up the effort to try to understand. Seldom is a conversation boring, you can always focus on the dysfluency and dysfunction.

[ForPeace]

6. See the video here

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0UQbA0ZmmM

[yurbud]

7. to a Republican ''God's plan'' means ''put money in my pocket.''

[StarryNite]

9. That's just great...

If those whack jobs get in, we're screwed.

[kysrsoze]

43. Rather than pray she not get elected, I sent this bullshit to every person I know who might watch...

AND forward. Please do the same.

[The Stranger]

10. She must be stopped. All of this bullshit about what we can and can't talk about when this woman --

-- wants to support massive wars and the mass murder of hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians in the name of her bizarre and evil belief system -- she must be stopped.

[DogPoundPup]

15. As mayor, Palin brought culture wars to town

A good, juicy read in the Durham, N.C. (92-08) paper on Palin
http://www.newsobserver.com/politics/story/1204252.html

If you can...please Digg article at http://digg.com/politics/As_mayor_Palin_brought_culture...

Also posted at DU http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

[Barrett808]

11. Praying "that there is a plan"

Pretty much sums up the disastrous misrule of George W. Bush.

[go west young man]

12. After watching that video I can proclaim without a doubt

that that person in that video is a religious fucking whackjob. Wake Up Amerika!

[Frances]

13. I prayed on it and God told me it was his plan for

Sarah to put her children before her own ambition

That is what the evangelicals would be saying if the Dems nominated someone with a family like Sarah's

They would say the daughter would not have gotten pregnant if she had been taught abstinence only

[Prisoner_Number_Six]

14. As a Christian I take great offense at that prattling airhead

calling for war prayers.

She should take a lesson from what happened to Dobson and his crew- he called for prayers for rain to disrupt the Democratic convention, and it was sunny, warm, and crowded with supporters. On the other hand, the REPUBLICAN convention was hit with a hurricane. I still haven't heard any word of how he spun that one...

"Blessed are the peacemakers, for they will be called sons of God." (Matthew 5: 9)

[tama]

17. Real fundamentalists

I don't see truly believing fundamentalists like Amish taking up the sword to conquer foreign lands - their fundament is safe and sound.

It is only the doubting pseudofundies like evangelicals and salafis who hoard material riches who are eager to take up the sword to die by the sword.

[bullwinkle428]

32. "Pseudofundies" - also find economically compromised individuals willing to take up

the sword for them, as they're too cowardly to actually act upon their own words!

[raccoon]

18. If it is "a task from God", then fighting in the conflict is doing God's work.

Therefore, anyone who believes this should immediately joined the military to do God's work.

[saigon68]

19. Looks like McLame found another Hagee fundy to admire

That speech is scary--- These idiots will start WW III

[Purveyor]

20. Substitue God with Allah and this could have been from a bin Laden script. eom

[defendandprotect]

22. This is a Jesus was a warrior and a Capitalist speech . . . if she can sell it--!!!

Oh . . . he's also anti-Muslim and loves Crusades ---

[fascisthunter]

24. She is a Christian Bin Laden

[Swagman]

25. the only problem being..God didn't know about this plan or approve it

[aquart]

26. God invades sovereign nations? JESUS invaded Iraq????

[newfie11]

27. Let her go fight since she is the believer

Bring everyone else home

[Donkeykick]

28. Sheesh!

she must be related to Pat Robertson!

[4lbs]

29. This doesn't make sense.

What Sarah Palin says doesn't make sense to anyone with a brain, regardless of how religious they are.

Christianity (this means Catholics, the various Protestants, and Mormons), Judaism, and Islam, all believe in God. The *> SAME <* God.

The Iraq War is a "task from God" ?

Uh..... so God sent one group of followers to another place to kill another group of his followers?

In the Holy Bible, whenever God wanted a group of people wiped out, did he send a group of people to do it, or did he just do it himself?

What, did he suddenly lose his omnipotence in 2000 years and decided it would be less effort for 200,000 people to uproot themselves for years and go kill another 100,000 people in his honor?

Yeah, ok. Good luck with that.

[0rganism]

35. it's not without "precedent"

> In the Holy Bible, whenever God wanted a group of people wiped out,
> did he send a group of people to do it, or did he just do it himself?

He's been known to do both. Smites cities, drowns armies, plagues of locusts and whatnot, but occasionally tells the Hebrews to massacre some tribe or other on a whim. Read the Old Testament, there's some truly nasty stuff in there pertaining to the treatment of civilians. Anyone who thinks the OT God cared about babies and the unborn needs to read up on what happened to the Amorites, Amalekites, and various other peoples who did things differently or had lands in which the "chosen people" wished to settle.

The scary thing is, some people still firmly believe such a genocidal deity deserves their devoted worship and praise.

[progressivebydesign]

31. Remember those "stealth candidates" that took over all those school boards??

She's one of those!

[bdamomma]

34. oh crap, she is fueling the rapturists, a dangerous combination

this is what exactly Cheney wants, a warmonger and someone who supposedly thinks killing others is what God wants. WTF.

[Crowman1979]

36. One of the reasons I left the military a couple years ago!

Was the mentality of people like this. I didn't want to continue serving my country with people like this in charge. Evangelizing was on nobody's mind in my unit while I was over there. Still haven't found anything about declaring holy wars in the constitution.

[saigon68]

38. We were "Too Busy" trying to survive

Nut jobs start crazy wars

[Crowman1979]

45. All because of some elite thug being afraid of somebody on the other side of the world.

Who have no capability of invading our nation or even our most distant territories.

[Crowman1979]

37. So I guess killing millions of native americans was a task from god also.

And how about that civil war? You had two conflicting messages from god! It's like god had multiple personalities in that war.

[Art_from_Ark]

71. A lot of people back then believed that

They fancied themselves as modern Israelites throwing the "Canaanites" out of the "Holy Land"

[superconnected]

39. yep, she's a hostile freeper nut job. Who was that crazy woman in FL

Who helped steal the 2000 election? This could be her sister.

[4lbs]

41. You mean Katherine Harris?

n/t

[AzDar]

40. Kick for the Krusader!

[LeftishBrit]

42. She is truly insane

[Suji to Seoul]

46. Palin: Iraq War 'a task from God'

Source: AP

ANCHORAGE, Alaska - Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin told ministry students at her former church that the United States sent troops to fight in the Iraq war on a "task that is from God."

In an address last June, the Republican vice presidential candidate also urged ministry students to pray for a plan to build a $30 billion natural gas pipeline in the state, calling it "God's will."

Palin asked the students to pray for the troops in Iraq, and noted that her eldest son, Track, was expected to be deployed there.

"Our national leaders are sending them out on a task that is from God," she said. "That's what we have to make sure that we're praying for, that there is a plan and that plan is God's plan."

Read more: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080903/ap_on_el_pr/cvn_pal...

---

What is she smoking?

[Voltaire99]

47. Sarah, Sarah, Sarah.

You're fucking nuts, lady. Get back to your fish biz, your bearskin rugs, your belly-blooming daughters, your Rapture calisthenics.

[pinkpops]

49. cwazy

[pinkpops]

48. The link says there are video clips but

there are no links...

[Demit]

50. You Tube link—

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0UQbA0ZmmM

[patrioticandrea]

51. Someone please stop this woman

Dear Sarah Palin:

The greatest love of my life served with honor in the Marine Corps and was being recalled for his THIRD tour in the Middle East weeks before he was killed in a car accident. He was proud to serve as a Lance Corporal, did a tour in Afghanistan, was in the Battle of Falluija (sp?), served his four years of active duty thinking he would never have to return to a war that made a strong man afraid of lightening because it reminded him of bombs.

Sarah Palin, I don't believe that if Chris were alive today that he would agree with you. How dare you make such statements when you've never served a day of military service in your life.

Sarah, I really wish you'd shut up about things you are clueless about. Statements like yours are what are going to lead us into World War III where religious fundamentalists believe the US is out to convert everyone to Christianity. Just stop already and go back to teaching abstinence to your children. Clearly you've done a spectacular job with that.

[saigon68]

53. Welcome

Thank you for your post

It's moving

[funkyfeet]

58. Part of the delusional Bible Thumper Brigade

As a Christian believer it makes me sick and it has to make Christ shake his head in disgust that these BLATHERING LOONY-TOONE NINCOMPOOPS try and co-op the Christian faith thinking they have some exclusive pipeline of understanding to God's will. "A task from GOD"??? I beg to differ.......

[psychopomp]

54. Misleading article!

Here's an exact transcription of what she said at that point:

Pray for our military men and women who are striving to do what is right also for this country, that our leaders, our national leaders, are sending them out on a task that is from God, that's what we have to make sure that we're praying for, that there is a plan and that plan is God's plan.

Asking folks to pray that a plan be God-approved is quite different from saying it is God-approved.

[Third Doctor]

56. These crusading holy warriors

scare the hell out of me! So a war that has killed and maimed thousands of innocent people for what amounts to oil rights, and then can only be justifeid by dumb speeches and rhetoric is part of god'S plan? I guess she thinks that the lord was working through ole dubya?!

[funkyfeet]

59. Very little difference

>>Asking folks to pray that a plan be God-approved is quite different from saying it is God-approved.

Asking God to come along and rubber stamp your plans without seeking HIS will first is NO PLAN at all my friend

[nam78_two]

66. How is it misleading?

"are sending them out on a task that is from God"-seems to pretty clearly state that the Iraq war is a "task that is from God".

She sounds crazy and stupid-the perfect Repuke-bot.

[Harold J.]

55. WHAT!!!!!!!!!

I swear we the American people need to be very, VERY careful with these people like palin and bush. These people sound like the people that attacked us on 9/11 thinking the same way. DANGEROUS.

[Pavlovs DiOgie]

57. k & r!

[Wabbajack_]

60. Freepers are practically masturbating to her speech

sickening.

[alfredo]

62. yeah, let's see her pick up her gun and join God's army in Iraq. Prolife?

[KillCapitalism]

63. This woman is dangerous and just plain batshit crazy.

I think I'll go hide on some island in the South Pacific if her & McCain get elected. She will take us to war with Iran, Venezuela, China, and Russia. I worry most about the last two because they would probably nuke us if they McCain/Palin launched a preemptive war..

[CaughtInTheMiddle]

64. All the Dems have to do is...

Go find a tape of Bin Laden saying the same type of thing, make a commercial out of it (with both), and have a backdrop of the evils of the crusades.

[nam78_two]

65. She sounds (and acts) like Bush and Cheney rolled up into one disgusting package.nt

[workinclasszero]

67. Palin is batshit crazy!

A Reich wing religious nutjob. She was even praying for a pipeline to be built!!

Who is her god? The CEO of Exxon????

[panzerfaust]

68. Which is why those in power always support some form of religion

If the Gods did not exist, we would have to create them.
- Truly do not recall who first wrote this (Greek, I think)

Religion is what keeps the poor from murdering the rich.
- Napoleon

When did I realize I was God?
Well, I was praying and I suddenly realized I was talking to myself.
- Peter O’Toole

[Rocknrule]

69. For those of you who have seen "The Mist"

I propose "McCain/Carmody 2008" bumperstickers

[undeterred]

70. So this is the stuff God thinks up for humans to do.