Warren: McCain did not violate 'cone of silence'

[sabra]

Source: CNN

(CNN) – Sometimes you just have to take it on faith.

Pastor Rick Warren said John McCain didn’t hear any of the questions in advance at Saturday night’s Civil Forum, even if the candidate was a little late arriving to the pre-arranged quiet room or “cone of silence.”

At the beginning of the forum at California megachurch, Warren told the crowd and TV audience, “I'm going to ask identical questions to each of these candidates, so you can compare apples to apples. Now, Senator Obama is going to go first. We flipped a coin, and we have safely placed Senator McCain in a cone of silence.”

But at 8 p.m. ET, as Warren said that, McCain was actually not in the building. He was just leaving his hotel, with his motorcade arriving at the church nearly a half hour into the event. A. Larry Ross, a spokesman for Warren, says McCain then went directly into the holding room they dubbed the “cone of silence” (in reality, a room with no TV or audio).

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Warren told CNN Sunday evening, “we flat out asked him” if he heard any of the questions. The McCain campaign “confirmed that McCain did not hear or see any of the broadcast” in the motorcade or after he arrived, Ross said.

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[TwilightGardener]

1. Oh please. You've got to be shitting me. Yeah, we'll take him at his word, even

though he was answering some questions before they were asked.

[grannie4peace]

2. yeah, & the serpent didn't offer eve an apple either

[Jim__]

3. McCain just happened to answer some questions Obama was asked and he wasn't.

It takes an awful lot of faith to believe that.

[maddezmom]

4. yeah, sure

maybe once he arrived to the cone of silence. Why did Warren lie about him already being in the cone of silence?

[Bluenorthwest]

25. And there is the heart of the matter.

Warren said McCain was already in seclusion, and that was a flat out lie.

[knixphan]

39. yes. pants on fire.

[notadmblnd]

5. Ok, McCain didn't hear. So which of his people did?

And then who briefed him on it?

[AnotherMother4Peace]

6. Exactly! n/t

[MaineDem]

11. BINGO

So, technically, he didn't lie.

[Kelvin Mace]

7. What does it say about our media narrative

when the key word of the day is a sight gag from 40 year-old sitcom?

[Hepburn]

8. Oh, what bullshit....

...when McLame could answer a three part question on the first part of the question...what the hell is that? Divine intervention?

GMAFB....

[Crowman1979]

9. I never knew that "cone of silence" was a common church practice.

I guess that is common with the non-denominational fundie holly roller churches.

[Botany]

10. If McCain was not in the building how did they flip a coin to see

... who would go first. Me thinks the pastor doth protest too much.

[Jim__]

23. That was done earlier.

Here's a report made on the 14th:

Obama/McCain Forum: A Saddleback FAQ
August 14th, 2008, 7:06 am · 23 Comments · posted by J. GALLEGO

...


Sen. Barack Obama will be interviewed first, as determined by a flip of a coin. To insure fairness, Sen. McCain will not hear the questions during the first hour. Between the two interviews, the candidates will appear together on stage for photographs.

[Igel]

42. That would appear to be a simple, yet apparently too clever, way of doing it.

It's what occurred to me, but then again, I was disposed to interpret the information in a way that didn't assume deceit in the absence of actual evidence.

Good will and a desire for dialog. They were liberal virtues, when I was a kid.

[chapel hill dem]

12. This was "Jeopardy!" - Warren wrote the questions to fit McCain's well known positions. n/t

[Epiphany4z]

13. yayaya

i know he didn't hear anything because he told me didn't...that would real well if the rolls where reversed I bet. Why even bother.

[Riddler]

14. So "flat out" asking someone a question assures an honest answer? Maybe we should just do away

with our court system and just "flat out" ask suspects if they're guilty or not.

[AnotherMother4Peace]

15. Contact Pastor Warren:

Lake Forest (Main Campus)
1 Saddleback Pkwy
Lake Forest, CA 92630
Phone:
[phone]
E-mail:
[e-mail]

[aquart]

31. Done. couldn't resist.

[msongs]

16. haha like Warren is in it for something besides cash and his own ego nt

[kevinmc]

17. It was broadcast live on a local Orange County TV station ....

he could hear it or see it easy in his limo.

[Highway61]

18. I am really getting sick of this bullshit....

Enough already...these bastards and all their conniving, lying and manupulation have got to be stopped. It isn't gonna work this time...the people are coming and YOU are going!

[C_U_L8R]

19. Of course McCain did not see the broadcast

he was in his car on the phone with his speech writers (who were watching it) and telling McCain what to say.

C'mon McCone.. cough up your cell phone and blackberry records and prove us wrong : - )))

[MidwestTransplant]

20. I bet Warren actually believes he can take them at their word.

[2KS2KHonda]

37. I wouldn't trust either of them any further than I can dropkick the Rock of Gibraltar.

[snappyturtle]

21. When Warren announced that McSame was in a cone of silence I thought we

would be shown McSame sitting in isolation like the Miss America finalists of years gone by were isolated from the mc asking the questions.

[Tandalayo_Scheisskopf]

22. Someone needs to remind Ol' Rick...

That there is this little thing about "false witness" that he and his ilk always seem to forget, and that passing on someone else's false witness is just as bad as making one of your own.

[Bluenorthwest]

26. But he did his own as well...

He said McCain had already been placed in a secluded place, when he had not. So Ricky has zero problems with telling big honking lies when it is to his own advantage. This is not even contested. He said McCain was in the cone of silence, when he was not. Warren lied.

[calimary]

33. As DUer Neshanic puts it - "The Purpose-Driven Lie."

Needs to be said, read, and SPREAD!

[janet118]

24. It depends what the meaning of "McCain" is

The McCain campaign “confirmed that McCain did not hear or see any of the broadcast” in the motorcade or after he arrived, Ross said.

[kmac3]

27. Fool me once . . . .

Anyone who has listened to McCain's Town Hall Meeting responses knows how inadequate, somers times totally unable to answer impromptu questions he is. Doesn't take a rocket scientist to conclude he appeared totally and well rehearsed!

[kirby]

28. self-delete

moved to another thread

[still_one]

29. The question is, why was mccain late? didn't he know about the forum

and why when he appeared and warren mentioned that mccain was in the "cone of silence", didn't he correct him?

[Mabus]

30. There was an early bird dinner special at the hotel

and you know how the McCains like to watch their pennies.

[Mz Pip]

34. He had to wait for a bib.

[Igel]

43. Why show up and sit on ice for an hour?

What I'd ask is if any of the questions were presented to the candidates ahead of time.

It's not uncommon for interviewees to request a list of the actual or likely questions. But I haven't heard that asked; perhaps the answer would be unnerving, or simply not forthcoming.

[NorthCarolina]

32. So, it is undisputable that the good Pastor himself LIED

when he said "We flipped a coin, and we have safely placed Senator McCain in a cone of silence.”

Is it possible that the goodly Pastor Warren could have an "agenda" of some sort? One that precludes the need to "tell the truth"?

[liberal N proud]

36. Warren is a modern Pharisee

Setting a trap for Obama.
McCain's attendance was just for show to fool the sheep to believe they were sincere. McCain was just given the questions and probably allowed to listen to Obama as a bonus.

[JBoy]

35. Yay! No need for waterboarding anymore! Pastor Rick Warren always gets the truth.

[LonelyLRLiberal]

38. If Warren is so unbiased why is he defending McCain?

Oh, wait . . . . .

[truthisfreedom]

40. I want to see the coin.

No doubt, both sides are the same.



Rick Warren lied, and now he's trying to distract his flock from that fact.

[arikara]

41. Isn't Warren the one who was caught picking up

hookers and doing meth? or am I getting the fundy preachers mixed up.

[hamsterjill]

44. Now, look, you've got to think this through!!!

McCain may not have directly heard the questions.

He may have had someone else listening and then relaying the questions to him.

THAT is how these idiots think. That way, McCain can answer (correctly in his mind) that "HE" didn't hear the questions asked. It's all in the semantics.

And I'm telling you...I'm serious...these are the stupid games that these people play.