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margotb822 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 03:58 PM
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McCain denies he misstated timing of Iraq surge
Edited on Wed Jul-23-08 04:06 PM by margotb822
Source: AP

BETHLEHEM, Pa. - Republican John McCain is pushing back against Democratic criticism that he misstated the timing of the buildup of troops ordered by President Bush in early 2007. He says parts of the new strategy began months earlier.

The Arizona senator has told reporters during a stop at a super market in Bethlehem, Pa., that what the Bush administration calls "the surge" was actually "made up of a number of components." McCain says some components of the surge began before Bush ordered more U.S. troops into Iraq.

McCain says U.S. Col. Sean MacFarland started carrying out elements of a new counterinsurgency strategy as early as December 2006.



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Too bad the Anbar Awakening still happened before Dec 2006. That doesn't help his timeline problem. But, I supposed we're to infer that McCain was somehow involved in these high level strategic talks?? Haha, yea, right. The Straight Talk Express takes a huge round-about detour...destination unknown.
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 04:00 PM
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1. How Obliging Of Him, Ma'am....
"Never apologize; never explain."
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 04:26 PM
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9. you'd think he wouldn't want this story to keep going...
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margotb822 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 04:30 PM
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10. He's just trying to stay in the news
any way he can.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 04:00 PM
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2. Straight talk my ass!
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Frances Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 04:03 PM
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3. It depends on the definition of surge
BUT if you can have a surge without adding more troops, then why did we need more troops?
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 04:32 PM
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12. Maybe he meant a splurge, not a surge.
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 05:22 PM
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18. No, maybe he meant "Serge"


...as in "Serge Chaloff," well-known jazz baritone saxophonist.
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la la Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 09:41 PM
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21. no-
I'm thinkin' it's one of those new-fangled sewing machines--a serger.

:silly:
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 04:08 PM
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4. Another DENIAL??? Thats a Classic sign of being a BULLY.
I am never wrong...I always blame others....I only whine, never give important input in solving...only band aids...what am I?

A Bush Clone....
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 04:08 PM
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5. A campaign stop at a supermarket?
Did he give a food demo in aisle 5?
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Richardo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 04:16 PM
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7. I know! That jumped right out at me.
To-do list, July 23, 2008
Obama: Holocaust Museum, Israeli Leadership, Palestinian leadership
McCain: Campaign Rally - Supermarket

:rofl:
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Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 04:21 PM
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8. Hey, cut the guy some slack.
There's probably a logical explanation.

The Straight Talk Express ran out of Kleenex and Depends.

It was Phil Gramms job to keep them stocked.
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 04:33 PM
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13. Was it a supermarket or a WalMart?
If the latter, was he acting as the greeter?

;-)
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 04:42 PM
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14. No demo, but he DID take forever writing the check at checkout.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 04:12 PM
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6. The surge started in March of 2003 and McCain is a frikkin' putz
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 04:31 PM
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11. Did it start in 2003 with the invasion?
'what the Bush administration calls "the surge" was actually "made up of a number of components."'

Or did it start when Dubya did his "Mission Accomplished" photo op on the aircraft carrier?
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chelsea0011 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 04:54 PM
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15. McCain is the kid in class who asked if we needed to know dates for the test
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xxqqqzme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 05:08 PM
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16. we all know he is full of shit, what's the shocker?
What I find appalling is cbs editing the tape to cover his sorry, sagging ass.
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 05:15 PM
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17. "...some components of the surge began before Bush ordered more U.S. troops into Iraq."
So the "surge" began before it was even called the "surge?" I'm very confused about this. Wasn't the ordering of more troops into Iraq by Bush referred to as "the surge?" And, if so, then how could we have a "surge" before we had a "surge?" :crazy:
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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 05:23 PM
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19. Right. Just like how Novak didn't see the pedestrian he struck
:eyes: Aren't Americans tired of the blatant lies yet?
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Waiting For Everyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 05:25 PM
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20. Oh, so McCain excuses himself from admitting what IS true about the surge
Edited on Wed Jul-23-08 05:29 PM by Waiting For Everyman
But Obama is supposed to admit (because McCain says so) what ISN'T true about it.

Both CBS and McCain need to be pinned to the mat on this.

Also, I'd like to see someone bring up McCain's sellout of the POW/MIAs at the 1992 hearings. And his support for torture. How does that wash with his acclaim as a POW? He's the opposite of a hero to me, and I'm the recent widow of a 100% disabled VN vet who was briefly a POW too. I watched with my husband, every minute of those hearings, and McCain is no hero.

See below what Rep. Bob Dornan (R-CA) and Sen. Bob Smith (R-NH) and the top hearing staffers, and POW families have to say about his obstruction then... while he was in the safety of a Senate hearing room, in no danger whatsoever...

http://youtube.com/watch?v=vFM1xqqTX_g
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