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kskiska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-23-08 01:13 PM
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Berlusconi tells Vatican to lift ban on taking communion
Source: The Guardian

After a week pushing for a change in the law to halt his corruption trial, Italy's prime minister, Silvio Berlusconi, set his sights even higher at the weekend by demanding the Catholic church kill off a rule which stops him taking communion because he is divorced and remarried.

Evidently on a roll and wearing a white panama hat, a relaxed-looking Berlusconi sat in the front row at a service in a church near his Sardinian villa on Saturday as the bishop approached the congregation to offer communion.

"When are you going to change this rule that stops me taking communion?" Berlusconi asked the startled bishop, who had been planning to move swiftly past the prime minister without stopping to pop a wafer in his mouth.

(snip)

Until now, the Italian prime minister and media mogul has remained an unwavering supporter of the Vatican's policy of promoting family values and attacking single-sex unions. Berlusconi showed up at last year's church-run Family Day demonstration in Rome, prompting critics to joke that he was well qualified to do so since he had so many families of his own.

(snip)

"I told him he could take the matter to a higher level, given that he has just been received by the Pope at the Vatican," (Bjshop) Sanguinetti told the Italian daily La Stampa.

Read more: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/jun/23/catholicism.italy
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CatholicEdHead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-23-08 01:15 PM
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1. That rule has been around a long time and is not going anywhere soon
It is still a wacky rule, but it has been around for many, many years and the current group in the Vatican will not be changing it anytime soon. If anything expect more restrictions, not less.
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-23-08 01:39 PM
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5. I couldn't receive Communion either
until my previous marriage was annulled, my wife became a Catholic and we were married in the Church. That's the rules. I knew it and was fine with it.
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-23-08 01:16 PM
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2. Mussolini tried to give marching orders to the Pope.
On a side note, I'll bet Rudy Giuliani is appreciative of the gesture by Berlusconi.
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Scairp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-23-08 01:48 PM
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7. Yeah
These two should really get together. If they are such good Catholics they would accept this excommunication and live with it. Isn't that what devotion is all about, not being a "cafeteria" Catholic, picking and choosing the parts you like while rejecting others you don't? Such hypocrites.
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catrose Donating Member (591 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-23-08 01:49 PM
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8. I believe the Pope served communion to Giuliani
I was shocked, shocked I tell you. Particularly when American bishops deny politicians communion based on their beliefs.
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rox63 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-23-08 01:19 PM
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3. Yeah, like they're going to change it just for him...
:eyes:

I hope he's not holding his breath. Then again, he is a RWer. So go ahead and hold your breath, Silvio.
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pattmarty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-23-08 01:25 PM
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4. Wasn't something like this tried in England a couple of hundred years ago?
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dipsydoodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-23-08 01:46 PM
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6. There's a ban on me taking communion too
but then as I'm not Catholic it don't fuss me none.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-23-08 04:51 PM
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10. You can take communion. But then Jesus will hatch inside your stomach and leap from your chest. n/t
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dipsydoodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-23-08 05:25 PM
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11. That's the other reason
:rofl:
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-23-08 10:34 PM
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12. Is that why? The church is scared of Jesus returning?
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-24-08 07:32 AM
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13. Ever see the movie "Pet Sematary"? n/t
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-23-08 04:50 PM
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9. Which one will be suicided first? Berlusconi or Der Popenfuhrer? n/t
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-24-08 07:48 AM
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14. how does chewing on a piece of tasteless unleavened bread
make anyone a better person? How does attending a meeting in which make believe tales are repeated make one "blessed?" How many games have the Notre Dame fighting irish won only because enough people were on their knees praying?

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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-24-08 10:00 AM
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15. Because chewing on a piece of tasteless unleavened bread and
choaking it down takes guts!!! guts, I tells ya, guts!

:rofl:
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Nihil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-24-08 10:52 AM
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16. That's odd ...
I don't mean that Berlusconi is sufficiently out of touch as to demand that
the church reverse behaviour that dates back for centuries but this bit:
> ... wearing a white panama hat, a relaxed-looking Berlusconi
> sat in the front row at a service in a church near his Sardinian villa ...

Since when have *men* worn hats in the congregation of a Catholic church??
It used to be the rule that women wore hats or scarves, etc., but men always
had to remove their hat before entering ...

:shrug:
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-24-08 11:15 AM
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17. Just like Henry VIII! Maybe he'll start his own church.
In any case, I hope he ends up in jail.
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