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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 02:29 PM
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Military judge dismisses charges in Haditha killings
Source: Associated Presss

CAMP PENDLETON, Calif. A military judge dismissed charges Tuesday against a Marine officer accused of failing to investigate the killings of 24 Iraqis.

Col. Steven Folsom dismissed charges against Lt. Col. Jeffrey Chessani after finding that a four-star general overseeing the case was improperly influenced by an investigator probing the November 2005 shootings by a Marine squad in Haditha.

"Unlawful command influence is the mortal enemy of military justice," Folsom said. "In order to restore the public confidence, we need to take it back. We need to turn the clock back."

Chessani, of Rangely, Colo., was the highest-ranking officer to face a combat-related court-martial since the Vietnam War.

Read more: http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/ap/nation/5842229.h...
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 02:33 PM
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 03:10 PM
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And stomping a few minorities to boot
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jayfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 03:15 PM
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7. I Wonder If This Line Of Reasoning...
could be used by the detainees and Gitmo. Seems to me, in a rush to exonerate our accused troops, a hole may have been opened up that will allow terrorists to go free.

Jay
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TooBigaTent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 02:42 PM
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2. The cover-up was totally predictable. Justice has died in Amerika, especially for
our uniformed criminals.

If there is no judgement of George and his cronies, can we really expect any for their hired hands?

They sure have restored public confidence, haven't they.
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sharesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 02:45 PM
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3. There were way too many civilian casualties at Haditha to excuse or explain.
Support for the troops has apparently resulted in zero justice for the victims.
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darue Donating Member (383 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 02:55 PM
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4. at least it looks like the Mahmudiyah killer/rapists are seeing justice n/t
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atreides1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 10:07 PM
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16. That's the Army
Not the Waffen SS, I mean the Marines.

Has anyone noticed that the Army has convicted more soldiers involved in Abu Ghraib and Mahmudiyah, while the Marines have basically put on show trials and then acquitted the majority of the accused.

Unless you count the Marine who was discharged for throwing a puppy into a gulch. I guess that's what it takes for a Marine to be punished, it has to be an animal and on film, killing women and children is just fine.

The Few, The Proud, The Waffen SS...I mean The Marines.
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surf Donating Member (45 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 03:07 PM
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5. Ummm maybe they DIDNT do it?
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 03:10 PM
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 03:17 PM
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jayfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 03:22 PM
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9. Hyperbolic Bullshit!
Edited on Tue Jun-17-08 03:23 PM by jayfish
The term "rape animal" as used in this context is not a blanket statement against the entirety of US armed forces and you fucking know it. It is aimed at this case group specifically. I like the military just fine thank you. It's rapists and murderers I cannot stand.

Jay
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 03:22 PM
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Guy Whitey Corngood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 03:34 PM
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14. Hades does not mean what you think it means. n/t
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wmbrew0206 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 03:27 PM
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12. The charges can be refiled and probably will
The reason this case was dismissed is the investigating officer of this case later went on to be Gen. Mattis' JAG adviser and Gen. Mattis is the general who ordered LtCol Chessani court marshaled.

Gen. Mattis has the head of CentCom at the time.

LtCol Chessani can still be court marshaled if his now commanding general decides there is enough evidence to try him.
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unauno Donating Member (30 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 03:34 PM
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13. No facts, please!

Just kidding. You are right. I wonder if they will refile charges. Time will tell.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 03:57 PM
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15. I wonder what verdict might have been reached by an Iraqi court?
You know, a court composed of the survivors of the 24 dead Iraqis? The society and community that suffered the loss of 24 lives? Instead, the military grants dismissals to its comrades in arms, nobody sees any conflict of interest, and we all congratulate ourselves on the "freedoms" that those dirty rotten terrorists hate us for.
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darue Donating Member (383 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-19-08 04:22 AM
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17. Deleted Thoughtcrime
Edited on Thu Jun-19-08 04:23 AM by darue
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