George W Bush meets Pope amid claims he might convert to Catholicism

[muriel_volestrangler]

Source: Daily Telegraph

George W Bush and Pope Benedict XVI have held an intimate meeting in Rome as rumours mounted in Italy that the president may follow in Tony Blair's footsteps and convert to Catholicism.
...
Several Italian newspapers cited Vatican sources suggesting that Mr Bush may be prepared to convert. One source told Il Foglio, an authoritative newspaper, that "Anything is possible, especially for a born-again Christian such as Bush."

He added that while the Holy See deplored the war in Iraq, "on ethical matters he has always had a line that is practically identical to that of the Vatican." Mr Bush has spoken out against gay marriage, abortion and stem cell research. He proposed amending the US constitution to "fully protect marriage" as the "union of man and woman as husband and wife".

He has repeatedly made clear his admiration for Benedict and has even claimed to have read some of the pope's theological books.

Read more: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/2122733/George-W-Bush-meets-Pope-amid-claims-he-might-convert-to-Catholicism.html

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If Bush did, it would only be for political or monetary gain - if he thought it would help get McCain elected, from which he would grow richer.

[mikehiggins]

1. no no no no no no no no no no

Didnt't the previous Pope consider it possible that BUsh was the ANti-Christ?

Hey, Pope Bennie! We don't want him.

The pedophiles are bad enough. We don't need any more murderous war criminals in our church.

[SharonAnn]

41. Feh!

[ironrooster]

48. I'm Catholic and I don't want him either.

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[Joe Bacon]

82. He'll buy his way in like Tony B-LIAR did!

Bush and his Opus Dei pals put Pope Eggs on the throne. Pope Eggs is every bit Bush's stooge as are Scalia, Slappy Thomas and the other Opus Dei losers on the Supreme Court!

[annabanana]

2. Like Tony Blair?. . . n/t

[Endangered Specie]

17. Does the dog wag the tail...

or the tail wag the dog?

[jwirr]

3. Getting ready to move to Paraguay?

[nankerphelge]

11. :)

I laughed out loud.

[paparush]

13. DING! DING! DING!

Oh..and the wine..don't forget the wine! ;=)

[bluesmail]

30. Funny because it's true.

(I think now he might be fleeing to Dubai). Thanks for the laugh!

[Peace Patriot]

39. Paraguay now has a bishop for President, but he is a LEFTIST, and the Pope

doesn't like him. His name is Fernando Lugo--the beloved "bishop of the poor"--who gave up his bishopric to run for president, over Vatican opposition. Lugo was able to pull the fractured leftist parties together and overturned 60 years of rightwing rule including a period of heinous dictatorship. He wants the U.S. military out of Paraguay, and is friends with the leftist president of Ecuador, and aligned with the Bolivarians (Ecuador, Bolivia, Venezuela) and other leftist governments on social justice and self-determination issues. He's lived all his life with the poor and is a strong advocate of the poor.

So stop with the dissing of Paraguay. They've joined the revolution at last! And they are no longer a safe haven for Bushites and nazies. They rescinded their law which had granted legal immunity to U.S. military personnel, and also their non-extradition law. Even the previous rightwing government was leaning toward the future of South America--that is, toward the left--and had joined the Chavez-inspired Bank of the South and the Mercosur trade group, and recently (under Lugo) Paraguay joined with 12 other countries in laying the foundation for a South American "common market" and (proposed by Brazil) a common defense, without the U.S.

As for the rumored purchase of a 200,000 acre enclave by the Bush Cartel in Paraguay, I have seen no confirmation of that; it may just be a rumor--but may also have been part of a Bushite plan to train and muster rightwing paramilitaries to overthrow the neighboring leftist government of Evo Morales, or to split off the gas-oil rich Bolivian provinces adjacent to Paraguay, from Morales' national government, and form a white supremacist, fascist mini-state in control of major resources. (The Bushites have similar dirty rotten schemes on the drawing board for Venezuela and Ecuador.) But Lugo's amazing election threw a monkey wrench into those plans--plans to use Paraguay as a launching pad for creating a civil war in Bolivia. Venezuela and Ecuador meanwhile--both with highly popular presidents--have beefed up their counter-intelligence and military capabilities, to fend off any such Bushite schemes in their countries (which would be launched from Bushite client state, Colombia), and Venezuela signed defense pact with Bolivia.

Brazil's proposal for a common defense of South America, without the U.S., was made in this context--increasing democracy and social justice policies in South America (the overwhelming trend)--and desperate Bushite plans to destabilize these countries and grab the oil.

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See this Judi Lynn post on Paraguay
Paraguay's president-elect appoints former leftist militant as Cabinet chief (US air base)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x3352121

[happyslug]

45. The Vatican opposed the Bishop from running, for he had been a bishop.

The Church has a policy, priests and bishops are "subjects" of the Vatican, and the Vatican does NOT like its priest and bishops from taking any public office. This was re-enforced by Pope John Paul II, when he told various religious people to NOT serve in a Political Office (The most famous case was the Jesuit Priest who had been serving as a US Congressmen, Pope John Paul II told him to quit his Congressional seat, which the Jesuit did).

Thus the Pope opposed ANY priest and bishop from running for any office. Furthermore, while you can retire from being an ACTIVE Priest or Bishop, you are still a Priest or Bishop till the day you die. Thus the Vatican "opposed" the bishop running for President of Paraguay. Beside the opposition based on the fact that the ex-bishop had been a Priest I saw no other opposition from the Vatican against the Bishop as a Person or a candidate, but only that he had been a Catholic Bishop.

[jwirr]

49. What makes you think my statement had anything to do with dissing

Paraguay? The country has a large Catholic population and *ss bought land there. He will not be welcome in this country so it is logical to assume that he is going to move to a country he owns property in. And yes, the new President of Paraguay will make a difference in that choice. Thank God. I hate to think of what trouble *ss could cause in Central or South America. My comment was mostly aimed at *ss and his shallowness.

[Kolesar]

63. Nice summary

Any comment on China's influence as a developer of natural resources?

[Peace Patriot]

81. Below, some articles on Chinese investments in Venezuela...

I don't know specifics about other South American countries, and would like to find out more about it--but I do know that China, India and other countries with investment cash and the need for resources, are taking advantage of the ill repute of the U.S. under the Bush Junta, and investing in South America. So are EU countries. For instance, when President Chavez of Venezuela required a 60/40 split of Venezuela's oil profits to be used for social programs (--the previous, rightwing government had been basically giving the oil away to the multinationals, skimming off the top--only 10% for Venezuela--to benefit the rich elite), Norways's Statoil, British BP, France's Total and even Chevron agreed to the terms. (Exxon Mobil did not, tried to sue for $12 billion of Venezuela's assets, but lost that suit in a London court--this year.) My point is that South America has become an international investment scene, where corporations actually have to respect the sovereignty of Latin American countries, compete for government contracts, and agree to their terms, rather than these countries getting bludgeoned by the U.S. and its tools--the World Bank, the IMF, the CIA--and if they object, suffering coups, assassinations, and U.S. supported dictatorships--as it has been in the past.

In this context, I just want to mention Cuba and Iran as investors in South America. Cuba has invested doctors and medical teams (in Venezuela, Bolivia and other places), for many new medical clinics in poor areas never before served by government, and is providing free medical care for some conditions (blindness, for instance--poor patients are flown to Cuba for a cure--and there are regular flights of patients for this purpose), and by providing its highly regarded literacy program to poor nations. In exchange, they are getting cheap oil. And Iran is investing in resource technology and local manufacturing.

And isn't this better than killing people? Isn't it better to integrate those whom you may imagine as "enemies" into your own and the world's economy, and create positive trade relationships and social and cultural interaction? Both Cuba and Iran will benefit from seeing how democracy works, and will have a stake in preserving it, because it is benefiting them. And they will cease being such scary boogeymen--easy for warmongers and war profiteers to exploit. South America is doing what we should be doing--using trade to promote peace. But many U.S. corporations have become so bloated, so big, so corrupt and so destructive that they only want to trade on unequal terms--with U.S.-dominated "free trade" deals, and, in Iraq, literally bludgeoning, torturing, murdering and occupying a people, to force them to agree to things that are not in their interest.

I don't have any sympathy for the Chinese, Iranian or Cuban political systems (--although I do admire Cuba in some other respects), and I certainly think that the Chinese and Iranian leaderships need watching, and need intense diplomatic efforts on trade, human rights, peace, disarmament and other issues. I also think that the labor and environmental issues with China are a very serious matter--their labor practices undermine labor rights here and in other countries; and their fast industrialization and global trade (and our global trade) are killing the planet. But you don't solve these problems by being hostile--you just make things worse. Not only has the Bush Junta failed to use trade policy to upgrade labor rights, here and abroad, and to help save our dying planet, but they have used the U.S. military as a blunt force instrument of horrendous destructiveness--1.2 million innocent Iraqis wiped off the face of the earth--to force U.S. corporate interests on their country, with one consequence being serious loss of respect and status in South America. They hate the U.S. for the war on Iraq, and they know that the Bushites have been trying to instigate a similar war--an oil war--against Venezuela and Ecuador, using Colombia (on whom the Bushites have larded $5.5 BILLION in military aid) as their tool--Colombia, a country with one of the worst human rights records in the world.

It is no wonder that countries like China, India, Cuba, Iran and others are earning respect, status and permission to do business in South America, and U.S. corporations and policy are on the outs. None of these countries THREATEN and BULLY and INTERFERE in Latin America, as the U.S. has done. And none of them have used their militaries for the violent acquisition of resources, or forced markets or trade routes. They have played by the rules, for mutual benefit, and the U.S. has not.

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Venezuela/China investments, found at
http://www.venezuelanalysis.com/search/node/china

Venezuela Signs Energy Pacts with Portugal, Ecuador, and China for Orinoco Oil

... PDVSA signed agreements with Portugal, Ecuador, and China to jointly produce, refine, and market petroleum from Venezuela’s ... the product be commercialized in Asian countries such as China and Japan”. This will be “of grand importance to the two countries ...

May 16th 2008 - by James Suggett - Venezuelanalysis.com - Score: 0.78

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Venezuela and China Form Bilateral Development Fund

... 7, 2007 ( venezuelanalysis.com )- The governments of China and Venezuela signed several new bilateral agreements, including a ... several representatives from the People's Republic of China. Out of a total of 11 new agreements, the most important was the ...

November 7th 2007 - by Chris Carlson – Venezuelanalysis.com - Score: 0.76

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Venezuela and China Strengthen Strategic and Economic Alliance

... selling approximately 200,000 barrels of oil per day to China, announced the Chinese Ambassador to Venezuela yesterday. This figure is ... has expressed the desire to increase oil exports to China as a way to reduce its dependency on the U.S. market. Representatives ...

March 31st 2007 - by Chris Carlson - Venezuelanalysis.com - Score: 0.71

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Venezuela Offers China Greater Access to Oil to Reduce Dependency on US Market

... 25, 2004—President Chavez said that Venezuela will offer China greater access to Venezuelan resources, such as oil, natural gas, and ... Chavez made the announcement during a state visit to China, which he and various ministers of his are visiting over the Christmas ...

December 25th 2004 - by Gregory Wilpert - Venezuelanalysis.com - Score: 0.67

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Venezuela Signs More Oil Deals with China

... This year 150,000 barrels of oil a day will be exported to China. Next year that figure is expected to double and by 2009 Chávez said he ... ties, with energy being one of the strategic guidelines. China is one of the largest consumers in the world, and Venezuela is one of the ...

August 23rd 2006 - by Steven Mather - Venezuelanalysis.com - Score: 0.57

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Venezuela’s State Oil Company Opens Office in China

... Energy and Mines Rafael Ramirez opens the offices of PDVSA-China. Credit: PDVSA Caracas, Venezuela, August 23, 2005 ... oil company, PDVSA, opened a new branch office in china yesterday, signaling Venezuela’s greater export of oil to that country. ...

August 23rd 2005 - by Gregory Wilpert – Venezuelanalysis.com - Score: 0.55

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Venezuela and China Sign 19 Cooperation Agreements

... to promote traditional and non-traditional exports to China. Bi-lateral cooperation between China and Venezuela has been in the works for some time now. In late December, ...

January 31st 2005 - by Sarah Wagner – Venezuelanalysis.com - Score: 0.55

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Venezuela and China – Towards a Multi-Polar World

... Venezuela’s growing strategic relationship with China is but one example of this emerging trend. Moving in this direction, China and Venezuela have recently announced the signing of at least eight major ...

October 16th 2006 - by Michael Locker and Dave Hancock - Score: 0.54

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Citigroup, China and Venezuela's Hugo Chavez

... Argentina in the 1990s, and provided financial support for China's Three Gorges dam. (1) Along the way, Citigroup has been able to grow ... their hand at such power plays are important to note. China recently tried to do what Citigroup has so unabashedly vowed it will do. ...

September 1st 2005 - by Chhandasi Pandya - ZNet Commentaries - Score: 0.53
Venezuelan Oil Exports to China to Increase Five-Fold

MORE at
http://www.venezuelanalysis.com/search/node/china

... that Venezuela will seek to increase its oil exports to China from 60,000 barrels per day to 300,000 per day—a five-fold ... the two countries. Last year trade between Venezuela and China was $1.4 billion and is expected to reach $2.4 billion for 2005, which is ...

September 15th 2005 - by Bernardo Delgado - Venezuelanalysis.com - Score: 0.51

[cyclezealot]

60. the New Book by Bugiolsi. The Prosecution of GW Bush for Murder

Vincent Bugiolsi seems to want to make the Bush post presidency life a living hell. Bugiolisi thinks he has a lock tight case to have Bush convicted of First Degree Murder. Bugiolisi does has a 100 percent prosecution rate. Maybe Bush will need go to Paraguay, but then they just elected a leftist president. Does Paraguay have extradition to the US?

[lonestarnot]

92. And since they elected a leftie, I'm wondering if he will be in the middle of a shock and awe.

[angstlessk]

4. Thought the pope was already catholic...one never knows these days

oops...it's boosh gonna convert..I see...should't the pronoun be closest to the proper name it replaces?















N E V E R M I N D !

[jazzjunkysue]

27. Nah. not politically convenient for Ratsy to fall for all that Love and understanding

mushy-gushy stuff. Not when He sees himself as the leader of the only important religous cult on the planet. He'd never give that up for "turn the other cheek" or "Do unto others."

[Maeve]

5. Blair had a reason to convert--Cheri, his wife

Bush has no reason to do so--and it would lose him a lot of that last 22% of people who think he's even marginally presidential.
A slow news day for British papers...

[JVS]

69. Maybe he wants to follow Jeb's lead.

[Joe Chi Minh]

73. Rupe seems to be the patriarch.

[Tommytoons]

91. Reason for Conversion

:shrug:George W.Bush, becoming a Catholic,now I've heard it
all! Well, Jeb Bush converted when he married his wife, I'm
sure that went along way with the Cuban population in Florida.
I wonder if Dubbya thinks becoming a Catholic would help
solidify the Catholic voting block for the GOP? It would be
difficult for me to see Bush becoming a Catholic unless there
was some ulterior motive for him to do so. What am I talking
about? This is Bush of course he has an ulterior motive!

[Demit]

6. He heard about the absolution thing. That's what his new jones is.

[sam sarrha]

7. the first priest he confesses will be found dead of "Suicide".. hung in a tool shed

[Mrs. Overall]

8. Way to piss off the fundies.....

[Ilsa]

25. And alot of good decent Catholics. nt

[happygoluckytoyou]

9. more likely his ass is watertight and he shits in the woods

given the problem the catholics have had with their WWII issues... it is little wonderbread that Dubya will follow Prescot's pawprints

on the bright side, if he ever enters the confessional.... we wont see him for quite a while

------ if i were catholic, i would send dubya a note.... don't they already have enough of a burden and guilt without him

[Itchinjim]

10. Well, if the Pope wants ME back with the flock....

he'd better not let Bush be a part of it.

[a la izquierda]

12. oh for the love of st. peter...

i have to share a country with B*sh, i don't want to have to share a religion with him too.

[DailyGrind51]

14. It was bad enough with all those pedophile priests,

but if GWB joins, I'm leaving!

[monmouth]

15. Exactly right. Like the Church doesn't already have an image problem...Dear God, please..Although

it is not easy to convert to Catholicism. A lot (Catechism) to learn and lots of "memorizing." Don't worry, if there's work involved he'll forget about it....

[Lifetimedem]

28. LOL...LOL

Maybe they have tapes now.. or maybe they will let him join even if he fails the test..

[momster]

29. Wouldn't Be the First Time

see Yale; see Harvard...

[DailyGrind51]

35. Ironically, the program for initiating adults into Catholicism

is called The Rite of Christian Initiation of Adults (often abbreviated RCIA)!

[CountAllVotes]

71. even the RCIA requires something called WORK

http://www.ecatholic2000.com/rcia/rcia.shtml

Work, work, work, work, work ...

a foreign word to *.

:dem:

[DailyGrind51]

90. I was referring primarily to the intials

which could also stand for Republican Central Intelligence Agency.

[1Hippiechick]

76. A lot (Catechism) to learn and lots of "memorizing." What language? He can't even pronounce nuculer

:rofl:

[brentspeak]

16. Imagine if word of this had occured prior to the 2000 (or even 2004) elections

[Diclotican]

18. muriel_volestrangler

muriel_volestrangler

It would be no place in heaven for this man anyway.. I would almost bet that the devil have his time with Mr Bush, in whatever Church he want to be part of.. Catholic as other church.. He might do that, convert to the Catholic Church.. But even then, when the time is up and he are going to the grave he would not come to the heavens, but rather to the old, devils realm... Even a baptize, to the roman Catholic church would not spear him from the reaper... Even if he was baptized by the Pope himself, the old devil would have his time with mr Bush... No place in this world world, or in the other would be safe for him... (And of this I am not kidding... If I was mr Bush, I would be afraid, very afraid of the future..)

And as many have pointed out, they don't want this madness in their Church.. The dice is cast, and he have a appointment with the devil some time down the road.. He would never been given peace after what he have been doing...

By the way, in some part of the evangelical cristian ideology, are not the Catholic Church part of the Big fallen Whore anyway?.. Why should he then if he was that "born again" as he want to tell everyone go to the "big whore" to be part of it... I would say many in the Evangelical cristian tradition would be very offend by this move...

Diclotican

Sorry my bad english, not my native language

[Jefferson23]

19. Maybe the catholics somwhere will let him build a presidential library then.

[wellstone dem]

20. And what about the death penalty, there is that little pro life

issue for George to reform his position on and to atone for the deaths that occurred because of him.

[A-Long-Little-Doggie]

21. Does the Vatican have an extradition

treaty with the US?

[skooooo]

22. nothing's going to save your soul, George

[Submariner]

23. I've been wanting another reason to demand Excommunication

This is it. Thanks AWOL-boy. Who the f*ck would want to be the same denomination as you?

[mrs_p]

24. i'm not too worried

conversion is a long process that takes much prayer and honesty. i just can't see gwb sitting through hours and hours of RCIA

[ronnykmarshall]

26. He's too stupid.

He'd probably take communion just to drink the wine!

[scarface2004]

31. you mean nazism!!!

wasn t the pope a nazi youth who committed atrocities in wwII...thought so!!

[NashVegas]

32. It's Gotta Be About Controlling the 3rd World Peasants

Catholicism is the only religion that comes close to holding up against Islam in still-developing South & Central America. They've got the Baptist army ready to go to war on terra, the Catholics are just kind of chillin' in that whole business.

The best way to control an organization is to get inside and work from within; if/when Georgie gets there, Tony will be waiting for him and so will his good friends Bill Bennett & Laura Ingraham, IIRC.

So Bush moves to Paraguay and wants to get some development going, only there's this meddlesome priest ...


One could try to be less cynical. The world kinda looks like it's going to hell in a handbag right now, don't it? Global warming, killer storms all over the place ... pestilence ... dying seas ... If I were going to find God about now, I'd probably return to the RC church, in spite of the past grievances. There's a lot of comfort to be had in all those rituals and the continuity of an institution that's survived a couple thousand years.

[lovuian]

33. Tony Blair and Now Bush the Vatican looks like it has had a

hand in their believe system maybe they need to go to confession and be forgiven their sins

[dflprincess]

50. Ah, but there's a catch to Confession

I was taught that to truly be forgiven for ones sins, one must be truly sorry for them. Merely reciting your sins to a priest and saying your sorry is not enough. Or, as sister told us, "You may fool the priest, but you can't fool God."

BTW did anyone see the "Trial of Tony Blair" on BBC America? There's a couple of great scenes of Blair wanting his conversion sped up because he is so desperate to get to confession - this is after he figures out he's going to be made the fall guy for Iraq.

[CBHagman]

34. He's in for some real surprises.

I've got some priests I want him to meet -- in social-justice-promoting, Third World-friendly feminist-environmentalist priests. And the smugness and vindictiveness will have to go too.

[FightingIrish]

36. If he's hoping Notre Dame will take his library

he is beyond delusional.

[DailyGrind51]

62. Does the Notre Dame library take comic books?

[texasleo]

37. We don't want him!

:mad:

[Historic NY]

38. How is he going to get past "Thou shall not kill"?

[chapel hill dem]

40. GWB wants an authority figure to assure him that he is forgiven. n/t

[mcollier]

42. And the Evangelicals have left the building....

How do you like your man now?

[chapel hill dem]

94. While I respect the Pope as a world leader, I am not Catholic and the Pope is not "my man" n/t

[hunter]

43. Well, Bush thinks he was chosen by God to be President...

... maybe he's aiming to become Pope!

[1Hippiechick]

77. and Limpballs claims to be talent on loan from God. Must be brothers....God's been busy!

[Malikshah]

44. Well, there is that little thing we Catholics like to call Penance.

Only Ratzi N*(i would have the testicular fortitude to absolve Chimpy of his heinous sins.

Chimpy is that much a coward....

[Wilms]

46. Snubbing Rev. Moon?

How rude.

[AnnieBW]

47. I didn't realize that B16

wrote children's books! What, "My First Exorcism"?

[bullwinkle428]

51. Give him another week and he'll be practicing Kabbalah...

[Javaman]

52. LOLOLOL his wasp parent will have a hemorrhage LOLOLOL

and the fundies will implode!!! LOLOLOLOL

[formercia]

89. Poppy is an honorary Knight of Malta

Honorary, because he's not Catholic.

Junior wants to do his old man one better by converting and being a full fledged Puss in Boots.

[BobTheSubgenius]

53. At first, it seemed somewhat plausible.

But then, I got to the "read" part.

[meow2u3]

54. God help the Church

Now I know the Antichrist is among us :evilfrown:

Jesus, please don't let Bush convert. You can't let sociopaths corrupt your Church.

[Princess Turandot]

55. The Baptismal Vows..

Priest: Do you reject Satan? .... And all his works? .... And all his empty promises?

George: Now wait just one cotton-picking minute here! Hold the Perrier. No one told me that I couldn't be pals with Dickey Cheney when this was over.

(The Baptismal Vows are said by the child's godparents during the cemetery.)

[JDPriestly]

56. Mr. Bush once told Larry King that gay marriage is a state matter.

Bush is a hypocrite.

[Divine Discontent]

59. ah, you are RIGHT, yes he did! that's all changing with states actually saying YES now, lol!

and, can you imagine the ROAR FROM THE GUT OF THE BEAST, well, I'll just call him John Hagee, if B*sh converts to Catholicism???? LORD IN HEAVEN, HAVE MERCY! BACK AWAY FROM THE TV - "TWO WHOLE HAMS HAGEE" will burst in anger!

As a Christian, I'm thrilled if he leaves the Protestants - sadly, I have compassion, and I will weep for the Catholics if he goes over to their Christian faith!

[JDPriestly]

74. He claimed to be a Methodist but a lot of Methodists including

those who have a say about the presence of his library at Southern Methodist University have rejected him and his militaristic and right-wing policies.

[Divine Discontent]

78. maybe young B*sh marred an annual Methodist Picnic back in the day, imitating Million Dollar Mermaid

and so they've pushed him aside? I know one thing, my former denomination still has a majority hatred for all things "gay" as seen in their most recent voting at conference.



To Wong Foo -

"Here's where they told young Vida to stop imitating Esther Williams from Million Dollar Mermaid, therefore marring the Methodist Annual Picnic"


New Obama items!
www.cafepress.com/warisprofitable

[happyslug]

57. Duplicate Thread

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x3352070

[LTR]

58. Does George Bush shit in the woods?

Ooops, sorry. Got my jokes mixed up there.

So, if Dumbya converts, is this his way of telling his fundie base once and for all to go pound sand? This obviously won't go over well with them, since many of them despise Catholics.

[opihimoimoi]

61. He wouldn't pass the test....just sayin.....there are classes and tests to pass..he wouldn't

[Earth_First]

64. Was is just as AWESOME as the first time? n/t

[rug]

65. That's fine as long as we pick the penance after he confesses.

[nodehopper]

66. heh...I like the subtle diss in the article

"and has even claimed to have read some of the pope's theological books."

[SpiralHawk]

67. "My Pet Evil Doer"

[JVS]

68. ROFL!

:rofl:

[jody]

72. Why would dubya follow Roman Catholic guidelines when he refuses to follow United Methodist

Social Principles on War and Peace?

We believe war is incompatible with the teachings and example of Christ. We therefore reject war as an instrument of national foreign policy, to be employed only as a last resort in the prevention of such evils as genocide, brutal suppression of human rights, and unprovoked international aggression. We insist that the first moral duty of all nations is to resolve by peaceful means every dispute that arises between or among them; that human values must outweigh military claims as governments determine their priorities; that the militarization of society must be challenged and stopped; that the manufacture, sale, and deployment of armaments must be reduced and controlled; and that the production, possession, or use of nuclear weapons be condemned. Consequently, we endorse general and complete disarmament under strict and effective international control.

Note dubya refused to meet with 20 United Methodist Bishops who opposed dubya's invasion of Iraq before it happened.

[Duer 157099]

75. No doubt he's planning to become Pope when he's done with this gig

and he heard he has to be Catholic for that, so...

[SammyWinstonJack]

79. Wouldn't georgie first have believe in religion, any religion beside the religion of money and power

:shrug: What a crock!

[olddad56]

80. how can he do that? ....

he doesn't have a conscience, how can he convert to a religion that is predicated on being able to use guilt to control the followers?

[orleans]

83. he could go to confession and confess and all will be forgiven. perfect! n/t

[bean fidhleir]

84. Yep. He's an incurious authoritarian who can't tolerate ambiguity and doesn't think well

it'd be a match made in heaven. or somewhere.

[FloridaJudy]

85. He's only interested in converting

For the breakfast.

[Buns_of_Fire]

86. The Methodists don't seem to care much for him, the Catholics around here aren't too thrilled,

I've yet to hear an Athiest say a good word about him, all the eastern religion people figure he'll come back as a toadstool (or a toad's stool)... Perhaps he should make some calls to Anton LaVey, and see if the Church of Satan has any openings.

After all, no matter what religion he's prepared to say he believes, we all know where he's going to end up...:evilgrin:

[FloridaJudy]

87. Nah, The Satanists

Have higher standards than that!

[Buns_of_Fire]

88. You're probably right. Not even the Flying Spaghetti Monster...

would touch him with a 10-foot Noodly Appendage at this point!

[AgadorSparticus]

93. catholic my ass. This is about the convergence of power. Sorry. It's never about God.

And I will most likely get flamed for this, but really, since when is the Vatican more about God than power and money? Kind of in the same vein as the Evangelicals in this country cozying up to the Isreali Jewish power.