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MethuenProgressive (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue May-20-08 11:39 AM
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Clinton Puts Up A New Fight, The Candidate Confronts Sexism On the Trail and Vows to Battle On
Source: Washington Post

In an interview after church services in Bowling Green on Sunday, Clinton for the first time addressed what women have been talking about for months, what she refers to as the "sexist" treatment she has endured at the hands of the pundits, media and others. The lewd T-shirts. The man who shouted "Iron my shirt" at a campaign event. The references to her cleavage and her cackle.

"It's been deeply offensive to millions of women," Clinton said. "I believe this campaign has been a groundbreaker in a lot of ways. But it certainly has been challenging given some of the attitudes in the press, and I regret that, because I think it's been really not worthy of the seriousness of the campaign and the historical nature of the two candidacies we have here."

"The manifestation of some of the sexism that has gone on in this campaign is somehow more respectable, or at least more accepted, and . . . there should be equal rejection of the sexism and the racism when it raises its ugly head," she said. "It does seem as though the press at least is not as bothered by the incredible vitriol that has been engendered by the comments by people who are nothing but misogynists."

She complained in the interview that the "intensity of my support" was rarely reported, adding, "I think that is a disservice because we have broad coalitions of voters who have voted for me who make up the base of a winning campaign in November that I think want to see this end up with my being nominated."
"We're going to give people in remaining states a chance to vote. We're going to resolve Michigan and Florida," she said.


Read more: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/20...
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   the DU Obama fan club will of course again laugh at "sexism-misogynists"idea as they unify the party  papau   May-20-08 11:42 AM   #1 
   Yup. See below. Here they come...  MethuenProgressive   May-20-08 11:57 AM   #7 
   The coalition she refers to is shrinking.  speedoo   May-20-08 11:49 AM   #2 
   "Intensity of my support"?  GoesTo11   May-20-08 11:50 AM   #3 
   18 million voters. And more today. Even though the MSM anointed BO weeks ago.  MethuenProgressive   May-20-08 11:56 AM   #6 
      Oh, that's how they did it.  haymakeragain   May-20-08 12:04 PM   #11 
      Number of voters is breadth, caucus goers are intensity.  GoesTo11   May-20-08 12:13 PM   #13 
      You should realize that it's not a good argument if you have to lie.  TheWraith   May-20-08 12:36 PM   #17 
   Clinton complains of sexism is breaking news?  DAGDA56   May-20-08 11:54 AM   #4 
   I agree this is not LBN  MessiahRp   May-20-08 12:00 PM   #9 
   Hillary is a disgrace to women....  TwoSparkles   May-20-08 11:56 AM   #5 
   I'd like to see her address the racism of her supporters  Tempest   May-20-08 11:57 AM   #8 
   ...and you certainly don't hear Obama...  TwoSparkles   May-20-08 12:06 PM   #12 
   Yes, Yes, Yes....  pipi_k   May-20-08 12:22 PM   #14 
   What the heck they mean by "new" fight? Hillary has used everything she had to fight  ToughLuck   May-20-08 12:04 PM   #10 
   Hillary didn't realize she was in a fight until she was bloody and beaten in her corner.  Ztarbod   May-20-08 12:30 PM   #15 
   She looks like she's ready to collapse...  EmeraldCityGrl   May-20-08 12:32 PM   #16 
   feature article, not LBN  Maeve   May-20-08 12:58 PM   #18 
 
papau (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue May-20-08 11:42 AM
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1. the DU Obama fan club will of course again laugh at "sexism-misogynists"idea as they unify the party
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MethuenProgressive (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue May-20-08 11:57 AM
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7. Yup. See below. Here they come...
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speedoo (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue May-20-08 11:49 AM
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2. The coalition she refers to is shrinking.
Gallup says key voters are deserting her for Obama.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
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GoesTo11 (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue May-20-08 11:50 AM
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3. "Intensity of my support"?
If it was so intense, couldn't they have shown up at caucuses?
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MethuenProgressive (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue May-20-08 11:56 AM
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6. 18 million voters. And more today. Even though the MSM anointed BO weeks ago.
Her supporters did show up at the cuacuses. They were out numberd by the Republicans, Independents, and non-resident students most of the time, but they did show up.
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haymakeragain (841 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue May-20-08 12:04 PM
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11. Oh, that's how they did it.
I got it, thanks.
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GoesTo11 (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue May-20-08 12:13 PM
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13. Number of voters is breadth, caucus goers are intensity.
To make the effort to go to a caucus, you have to really care. Obama's supporters did.

If it was Republicans, Independents and non-student residents who really cared that much, I suppose more power to him. I doubt that was the case in most of the caucus states, though. That wouldn't explain all the 70-30 margins. And there aren't that many non-resident students filling up Idaho and Nebraska.
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue May-20-08 12:36 PM
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17. You should realize that it's not a good argument if you have to lie.
Caucus states have the same residency and party registration requirements as non-caucus states.

Oh, and those 18 million voters are kind of outnumbered by the 20 million voters who chose the other guy.
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DAGDA56 (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue May-20-08 11:54 AM
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4. Clinton complains of sexism is breaking news?
This couldn't possibly be an attempt to get around the three posts in GD-P rule, could it?
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MessiahRp Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue May-20-08 12:00 PM
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9. I agree this is not LBN
Rp
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CoffeeCat (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue May-20-08 11:56 AM
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5. Hillary is a disgrace to women....
Edited on Tue May-20-08 11:59 AM by TwoSparkles
By pulling the "You don't like me because I'm a girl!" card, she is behaving less like a feminist
and more like a whiny victim who can't accept her losses.

Hillary can't accept that she lost this campaign, so she's blaming her own failures on "sexism."

Women who play these games, set women back and allow sexist attitudes to flourish. Empowered, liberated
and enlightened women do not behave this way. She is setting a bad example on the national
stage and being a poor role model for young girls. Girls do not need to see a grown woman
deluded about her own shortcomings and blaming her own mistakes on baseless challenges of sexism.

Frankly, as a woman, I am embarrassed at her myopic, delusional assertions--which make women
look like wussies who fall apart when they don't come in first place every time.

Many people supported Hillary. She fought a tough race. She should be proud of her
accomplishments and accept defeat with grace and class.

Coming unglued on a national stage and hurling accusations of sexism--aren't the actions
of an intelligent, empowered woman. They're the rantings of a defensive, excuse-seeking
spectacle. And those actions, my friends--are very unbecoming--whether you're a woman
or a man.
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Tempest (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue May-20-08 11:57 AM
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8. I'd like to see her address the racism of her supporters
26% of Clinton supporters say they won't vote for Obama if he's the nomination.

And it's not because Obama is a man.
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CoffeeCat (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue May-20-08 12:06 PM
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12. ...and you certainly don't hear Obama...
...whining about racism.

Hillary came right out and said that she's winning "white hardworking voters"--implying
that he can't. Meanwhile, 20 percent of her West Virginia supporters admitted in exit polls, that
race was a factor in their decision to support Hillary. They admitted their racism.

Obama has class and dignity. He doesn't desperately flail about--looking for excuses about why
he lost a state or didn't win a particular primary--even when her supporters admitted their own
racism.

But she engages in this slop. When there is no proof of it.

It's all about everyone else. We're the problem. We're sexist. It's never, ever about her
or her failed, discombobulated, Mark-Penn inspired campaign that had it all in the beginning
and threw it all away with her vitriolic, Rove-style tactics.

It's the fault of the small states. The caucus states. The states with large African American
populations. The sexists. The southern states. The elitists. The people who have hope. The
people who are inspired by speeches.

She's pathological and completely detached from reality at this point.
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pipi_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Tue May-20-08 12:22 PM
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14. Yes, Yes, Yes....
Sexism and racism are probably both factors in this race. I don't know if the 26% you present is accurate or not...honestly, I would expect it to be even higher than that...people who won't...would not even consider...voting for Obama, and not because he's a man...

We only have to look at states like WV, where the numbers weren't even close, to see that the majority of voters clearly think a white woman is preferable to a BLACK man. Unfortunate, in a way, that Hillary's opponent happens to be a black man. It would be interesting to see how she'd fare against a white male Democrat. Or a black female Democrat. What sort of whining would we be hearing then, I wonder...


Someone else further up said s/he was sick and tired of Hillary using the same old "Wah, wah, people won't vote for me because I'm a GIRL!!!" stuff and I agree.

It may be true in some cases, but it's really unclassy for the candidate herself to come out whining about sexism like she has. I don't see Obama running around claiming people won't vote for him because he's black, even though the truth of it is, nearly an entire state (WV) recently did just that.


I think Hillary needs to confine herself to making sure this is about two human beings....not a white woman vs a black man. Then, once the election is done and over with, concerning herself with fighting for equal rights for women....not using it as a political tool.

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10. What the heck they mean by "new" fight? Hillary has used everything she had to fight
with and lost.
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Ztarbod (82 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue May-20-08 12:30 PM
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15. Hillary didn't realize she was in a fight until she was bloody and beaten in her corner.
She thought she was at a party and behaved that way. If she had taken the primaries seriously from the beginning, she would be the nominee.
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16. She looks like she's ready to collapse...
Her entire world is falling apart. I would not be surprised if she had some sort of public, manic breakdown. It's really becoming almost painful to watch.
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18. feature article, not LBN
feel free to repost in GDP
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