DC Madam possibly commits suicide in Tarpon Springs

[YDogg]

Source: MyFox Tampa Bay

TARPON SPRINGS - Police were called to the home of DC Madam Deborah Jeane Palfrey's mother on Thursday to investigate a suicide.

Police would not confirm that the dead person is Palfrey - only that it is a white woman in her 50's. Palfrey is 52.

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Read more: http://www.myfoxtampabay.com

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Article link at site.

Hmmm ...

[babylonsister]

1. Hmmm is right. nt

[habitual]

2. holy crap

somebody suicided her!!!

[TheDebbieDee]

3. My tinfoil hat is securely in place...........I'm working on something

right now!

[Fridays Child]

7. Share?

It may not sound all that tin-foilish to Du.

[TheDebbieDee]

19. Where was Dick Cheney at the time of the suicide?

Was there a gun involved? And was anybody ever able to verify that Mr. Cheney was a frequent customer and often took advantage of his Executive Discount plan?

[Fridays Child]

26. An indoor hunting accident?

In any case, my sympathy to her friends and family--if it's her, that is.

[Trailrider1951]

88. Google the name Brandy Britton

[poppysgal]

100. CNN is reporting that

she hung herself http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/05/01/dc.madam/index.h... . Madam' found hanged.

[leftofcool]

16. I'm listening

[Mabus]

31. that's surprising

[debunkthelies]

55. Reuters on Air America

Commentator said she was found in a shed on her mother's property. Shed? Hmmm.

[Mike Daniels]

64. Well, the FReeps are hypothesizing as well

and guess who they think the culprit is?

[TheDebbieDee]

70. Who?

[Mike Daniels]

116. Clinton, who else

[Red Zelda]

4. Spitzer involved????

[TomInTib]

Self-defense.

I would imagine that she knew there would be worse to come.

[shanti]

5. wow

another victim of the bfee?

[Benhurst]

6. It'll probably turn out she drowned herself in the

toilet bowl.

[Lone_Star_Dem]

9. Having survived that she then strangled herself to death. n/t

[soothsayer]

28. And shot herself twice. In the back.

[Orrex]

102. Nice reference!

Not too subtle, not too overt... Just right!

[Tangerine LaBamba]

8. Scooter Libby didn't off himself

when he was convicted.

Pity.

[SharonAnn]

103. But he knew he'd be pardoned. She knew she wouldn't be pardoned.

[Ian David]

10. She was cleaning her hammer when it accidentally went-off in the back of her head? n/t

[SpiralHawk]

11. "How, um, unfortunate. Smirk." - Republicon homelanders

"At least Jeff Gannon is safe. Whew." - Commander AWOL

Rrepublicon Diaper Sex Pinup Boy, Sen. David Vitter (R):

[Joanie Baloney]

12. It's confirmed now

details at the above referenced link.

Very interesting. RIP Ms. Madam.

-JB

[DogPoundPup]

54. I wonder where she hid 'the incriminating evidence' and with who?

Momma Paultrey, you'd better have a fantastic security system!

[Quakerfriend]

89. I think she told all to Larry Flint! At least he has hinted as

much.

He said the whole thing would be made public before the election... He thought that this would be the best time...

[catgirl]

91. Really?

Do you have a link? If this is true, who is the person, or persons, he would out?
McCain? Bill Clinton? This is getting juicy.

[goodhue]

13. Police have confirmed that the dead person is Palfrey who was 52.

http://www.myfoxtampabay.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail?co...

[Ian David]

14. It's a shame. She was among my favorite Hookers With a Heart of Gold. RIP. n/t

[xchrom]

15. suicide

[fascisthunter]

17. She Made a Lot of Enemies

I seriously doubt it was suicide. I'll have to keep my eye on this one.

[Greyskye]

18. I'm a hothead

This doesn't breath very well:

[truthisfreedom]

20. I wonder if she left anything behind... perhaps a package mailed to a reporter?

[Ganja Ninja]

77. I'm sure her lawyer has all her records regarding her customers.

Perhaps he'll decide to publish them if he hasn't been bought off already.

[freefall]

112. Paid off or threatened or both. If he has a family he is likely to

do anything to protect them. It isn't always greed.

[Divernan]

21. So where is that client list now?

From the OP's link:

"She was convicted on Tuesday of money laundering, using the mail for illegal purposes and racketeering, but she had not yet been sentenced.

There has been much speculation in the media about who was on Palfrey's client list, but few details came out during the trial."

[Freddie Stubbs]

25. Right here:

http://deborahjeanepalfrey.com/telephoneRecords.html

[Ilsa]

22. Let's see, 2 shots to the head? Radio blew across room and into her bathtub? nt

[FourScore]

23. The article link is gone. n/t

[Bozita]

24. Here it is...

http://www.myfoxtampabay.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail?co...

[FourScore]

32. Thanks. n/t

[HCE SuiGeneris]

39. And another link here...

http://www.myfoxmontgomery.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?...

[1776Forever]

29. Cached it - link here

http://www.myfoxtampabay.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail?co...

[FourScore]

33. Sad. My tinfoil hat is buzzing.

k&r

[cstanleytech]

27. If the article is legit then yeah

it smells to me like she was probably silenced as well.

[Autumn Colors]

30. Suicide or suicided ??? (nt)

[mahatmakanejeeves]

34. If this be true, and if

like Ken Lay she had the foresight to file an appeal, then her conviction will be overturned.

[mountainvue]

35. Not buying suicide. n/t

[DemoTex]

36. Florida? Hmmm. Do they do real post-mortems in Florida, or Texas-style (Baxter) PMs?

RIP Ms. Palfrey. Too bad there will never be an appeal.

[QUALAR]

37. METHOD?

I will guess she was found with one slashed wrist in a bathtub and arms heavily bruised. Better known as a Raymond Lemme, former Florida IG inspector.

[HCE SuiGeneris]

38. Don't cross the PubliCons

Another "dangerous" American suicided by the Politicos.

[melonkali]

40. DC+ dangerous secrets=Fla. (or Texas)+death?

Or is the equation DC + dangerous secrets + Florida (or Texas) + death = b(ush) = c (cheney) = r (republicans)?

I have no knowledge of the DC Madam affair, so I'm just postulating formulaic probabilities.

[Uncle Joe]

41. Is the FOX News reporting this of Murdoch fame?

Their headline says.

"DC Madam commits suicide in Tarpon Springs"

Yet the police just started investigating?

[Ganja Ninja]

78. It's our local FOX channel. n/t

[Abacus]

42. !

[truebrit71]

43. Hmmm ....what a convenient "suicide"...

Nothing surprises me anymore...

[phrenzy]

44. Call it, friendo. (nt)

[ShortnFiery]

45. In these days, One has to ask: Did she *commit suicide* or was she* suicided?*

[katty]

46. hmmm... suicide?

[pleah]

47. Yeah, right , suicide.

Guess she had the wrong names in her little black book.

[Ezlivin]

48. She is on record as saying "I will not commit suicide."

Alex Jones has a recording of her saying during a radio interview that she would not commit suicide.

She said: "No, I'm not planning to commit suicide. I plan on exposing the government in ways I don't think they want..."

Unfortunately she knew too much and had to be dealt with.

[JTFrog]

71. Add her comments about Brandy Britton who committed suicide.

"I guess I'm made of something that Brandy Britton wasn't made of."

[orleans]

49. suure it was suicide. n/t

[yardwork]

50. This article says that one of her employee "committed suicide" too!

http://www.wral.com/news/national_world/national/story/... /

One of the escort service employees was former University of Maryland, Baltimore County, professor Brandy Britton, who was arrested on prostitution charges in 2006. She committed suicide in January before she was scheduled to go to trial.

Last year, Palfrey said she, too, was humiliated by her prostitution charges, but said: "I guess I'm made of something that Brandy Britton wasn't made of."

Why would this tough madam kill herself after being convicted? I don't believe it. This is way too convenient. And it reminds me of the Enron employee who committed suicide right before he was supposed to give a deposition. Rotten, rotten, rotten.

[HardWorkingDem]

51. Until all the facts are in, knock it off people...

when all of you making snide remarks about things you don't know about yet, it makes you look foolish and just like the other nuts out there.

Let this unfold and then make your comments.

Lastly, let's not forget, this was a person who was most likely victimized throughout her life and paid for it while the Vitters of the world walk free.

[yardwork]

57. I think that most, if not all, of the comments are suggesting that she was murdered.

I strongly suspect that she was murdered.

[HardWorkingDem]

59. Thus the appearance of being a conspiracy theorist...

My point is all the DUers jumping on the "murdered" bandwagon this early look just like the Vince Foster "murdered" wagon...especially when not having one iota of information.

[yardwork]

62. This is an internet discussion board. People discuss ideas here.

What evidence do you ever expect to surface? The local authorities will declare it suicide, she'll be cremated, and that will be the end of it. No media attention.

[HardWorkingDem]

69. Ideas? Jumping to conclusions with no facts is not "ideas"...

It's idle gossip and rumormongering and it makes a bunch of intelligent people look foolish and like those they profess not to be like.

Not only that, I thought liberals were supposed to be compassionate? Where is any of that compassion regarding this poor woman?

[yardwork]

72. You're trying very hard to make people stop talking about this.

I wonder why. And since when does concern that somebody might have been murdered to keep them quiet equate to "no compassion?"

[HardWorkingDem]

74. Not at all.....

I'm trying to get people who are screaming "murder" to see how foolish they look at this point in the investigation. The time for judgment will come when more information is needed.

As for "compassion" - look at some of the posts here and it's obvious where it is not found. Which is pretty disappointing when so many DUers at one point really liked this woman when it meant she was taking down hypocritical conservatives.

[yardwork]

76. Sometimes the "screaming" of "conspiracy theorists" is the only thing that brings out the truth.

When I review the long list of lies that the media has knowingly perpetrated over the past seven years alone, I feel no confidence that inconvenient facts will ever emerge about this case. Perhaps the only people who will ever pay attention will be conspiracy theorists screaming on an internet board.

[Zensea]

79. I'm also inclined to think she committed suicide

She seemed genuinely shocked when she got convicted.
Facing 50 years in prison would send anyone into a downward spiral.
It was already pretty evident she wasn't going to reveal any names or she would have done so before being convicted.
It wouldn't have helped her any to reveal them after being convicted.
So how is she really a danger to anyone?
Of course, someone might have perceived her as a danger anyway, so it's possible she was murdered, but it seems unlikely to me.

[nashville_brook]

83. seems more of a wacko CT that the DC Madam would actually kill herself.

THAT extraordinary claim requires extraordinary proof.

[lakeguy]

101. the conspiracy theory is that

a woman who had declared publicly that she would NOT commit suicide and that she had dirt on powerful people then went and committed suicide.

would you like a picture with that frame?

[Occulus]

107. Maybe it's because of this:

"No, I'm not planning to commit suicide. I plan on exposing the government in ways I don't think they want..."

Nah, no possible conspiracy to it at all

(By the way, the sort of conspiracy we're discussing is an actual crime called 'conspiracy to commit murder' hand-in-hand with 'murder in the first degree'. If you think that sort of conspiracy has never occurred, please, I beg of you, go read a newspaper. We have conspiracy laws regarding such things for very good reason. This honestly does come across, on first blush, given this woman and what she undoubtedly knew, as a textbook case of such a crime.

Cue the "Law & Order" DUN-DUN. It's really that fraking obvious.)

[Mike Daniels]

And guess who the FReeps say is the main suspect?

[peacetalksforall]

104. I support you, HardWorking Dem. There is a certain way of reacting

to these events that would reflect better on Dems.

All anyone can do is speculate and signal that it is speculation by acknowledging that it is too early then phrasing words in a more cautionary way.

[LeftyMom]

52. Well that's convenient.

If anybody felt a hot, smelly gust out of the east, it was just half of DC breathing a sigh of relief.

[timtom]

53. Wow!

What're the odds on that?

That's certainly one for Ripley.

[orleans]

56. cnn: suicide noteS? (plural? how many notes do you need to write?)

"Suicide notes were found near the body in a small storage shed next to a mobile home, police said.

http://edition.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/05/01/dc.madam/

[HardWorkingDem]

61. For your information...it is not uncommon...

for people who commit suicide to leave more than one note. Often times people will right numerous notes - to parents, children, friends.

Also, it is even more common for people NOT to leave suicide notes.

(Known from professional experience.)

[orleans]

82. *write* n/t

[Occulus]

108. And it's probably common for them to write one note, too, right? n/t

[KamaAina]

58. Cliff Baxter possibly commits suicide in Sugar Land

[Caution]

60. Sheesh don't jump to the conspiracy conclusion so quickly. She just found out she would be spending

a LOT of time in prison. I believe she was facing close to 20 years (the federal system does not have parole so she would have served close to 17 years) which would mean she would likely die there. In her place, I'd have seriously considered suicide myself.

Certainly it should be investigated, but my goodness, just about every response to this news is alleging that she was murdered.

[happydreams]

80. She was murdered by the judicial system if nothing else...

and a society that jails people who provide sex services then gives medals and accolades to those who murder hundreds of thousands for corporadoe coffers and glory. It leaves one with a question: Is sex for money worse than murder???

A society that chews its nails to the nub over an embryos future and remains mum about millions of children starving due to its capitalist wars for resources is one fucked up society. This fucking society (The US) is so goddamn warped in its values it makes me puke on a regular basis. Its a big exercise in hypocrisy on every level.

What a fucking MESS!!

It goes on and on and on with no remedy, no remorse, nothing but a fucking cathode ray shithouse full of phony images of idiotic sit-coms interspersed with erectile dysfuntion and pantie commercials.

Fuck! Palfrey was a hero. How many people with erectile dysfunction were cured by her?

All I want to see now is Blowback. That would be justice served!

[freefall]

113. Well said. Thank you. n/t

[ryanmuegge]

63. Moral of the story: don't fuck with David Vitter, dude.

[yardwork]

65. Or somebody else whose name hadn't surfaced yet.

[bluestateguy]

66. Well that should keep Rev.Wright out of the headlines for a day or two

nt

[yardwork]

67. Don't bet on it.

[barnel]

68. reaping what she sowed

she made money turning girls into whores so she could collect the money from politicians who sold out the middle class to lobbyists for multinational corporations

if she was murdered, she was likely blackmailing some of the most evil and dangerous people in the country for her own power game - not the safest hobby

[JTFrog]

73. ...

I have a feeling I'm not in Kansas anymore.... Or am I?

[OhioChick]

75. Someone didn't want her talking, obviously.

Sort of reminds me of "The Firm."

[AngryOldDem]

81. I don't for one nanosecond believe this is suicide. n/t

[tpsbmam]

86. Words right out of my mouth. Not for a nanosecond. n/t

[BreweryYardRat]

84. Certainly suspicious, but it could be a legit suicide.

There are valid arguments for both possibilities.

If the crime scene photos happened to leak out, that might solve it. Coroner's reports can be falsified.

[raccoon]

85. See also this thread

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

[catgirl]

87. Why wasn't she under protection?

She didn't seem like the type to give in, even to suicide. And she didn't seem depressed. She was
so self righteous that my first thoughts were that she was offed.

[ckramer]

90. Check this rumor out

http://boards.prudentbear.com/bbs_read.asp?mid=670463&t...

[Politicub]

92. Seriously - Suicide?

I don't believe this at all. Vitter has blood on his hands.

[catgirl]

93. I think it was someone who hasn't been outed yet

like Cheney, perhaps? Or McCain?

[nichomachus]

99. Maybe Lynne Cheney

she has some pretty interesting proclivities.

[DainBramaged]

94. When I called David Vitter's office early this year

and his "receptionist", a male mind you, responded with "he has repented for his sins" when I asked for his resignation for being a whore monger, I wonder if he still held a grudge against the Madam? Or if his wifey did, you know, the one in the revealing dress.

[Freddie Stubbs]

95. She contemplated suicide the last time she faced going to prison:

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2008/0501081...

[Alexander]

96. Interesting. After reading this, I'm inclined to think she really did kill herself.

But then, anything's possible.

[nichomachus]

98. Don't read too much into this document

I wouldn't read too much into this document. It was prepared by her lawyers prior to sentencing, so it's going to contain all sorts of emotional appeals to try to get leniency.

After all, if she was that distraught over that charge and the possible consequences in 1991, why would she then go and set up an even bigger prostitution ring in DC?

Think about it for a second. If you committed a small crime and the thought of being punished for it made you think about killing yourself, would you then go out and commit an even bigger crime? That doesn't make any sense at all.

[LisaL]

106. It doesn't matter why she went on to commit an even bigger

crime? If she indeed contemplate suicide over going to prison, then it would not be surprising if she actually killed herself now.

[grasswire]

97. I suspect an old friend of mine is very busy today.

That's all I can say.

And I'm sure that Larry Flynt will be all over this. He's not afraid of anyone.

[Occulus]

109. Could you tell your old friend that a LOT of people don't buy it as a suicide?

Thanks

[skyounkin]

105. They did it....

wish I could prove it.

But goddammit....they did it.

[Quantess]

110. Looks like a lynching to me.

I am serious. The woman had no cause to be committing suicide.

This woman was in no position to kill herself, not right now, not before she had her day in court. People can speculate all they want, but in the end, someone murdered her because she had too much scandalous knowledge and must be destroyed!

[RantinRavin]

111. She had already had her day in court

She was convicted and was awaiting sentencing.

[comtec]

114. There isn't a chance in HELL this was a suicide!

I just saw this on the Dutch news here - yeah a little behind here I know lol) and i said out loud, there isn't a chance in hell this was an accident!

She was tomb stoned!

GOD I hope there are many copies of damning evidence out there!!!

However I imagine this was done well after her evidence was thoroughly destroyed

damn it all to the lowest pits of hell and Tartarus!

[snot]

115. Why don't all these "suicide" victims place copies of their info/evidence

in secure places with instructions for the info to be revealed if the victim meets any untimely death?? And let it be KNOWN that they've done that -- at least the thugs would have to think twice before offing them, and the operation would be a little more complicated.

[Vidar]

117. Our tax dollar--via CIA blackops--at work.

[cstanleytech]

118. I am surpised that

she did not have any insurance set up for an "incase something happens to me" type thing that would send a list of all her clients to the newspapers.