Hamas are Iran's proxy warriors: Rice

[sabra]

Source: MidEast Times/AFP

WASHINGTON (AFP) Palestinian Hamas militants are serving as the "proxy warriors" for an Iran bent on destroying Israel and destabilizing the Middle East, US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice said here.

In a speech Tuesday to the American Jewish Committee in Washington that underscored growing US concerns about Tehran, Rice mentioned Iran as not just a threat in the Palestinian territories, but also in Lebanon, Iraq and even in Afghanistan.

Israel's Deputy Prime Minister Shaul Mofaz said after talks with Rice on Monday that an Iran-led radical front in the Middle East is becoming more powerful and weaknesses in it need to be found.

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"But perhaps of deepest concern, the leaders of Hamas are increasingly serving as the proxy warriors of an Iranian regime that is destabilizing the region, seeking a nuclear capability and proclaiming its desire to destroy Israel," Rice told the group's annual meeting.

She did not elaborate.

Read more: http://www.metimes.com/Politics/2008/04/30/hamas_are_irans_proxy_warriors_rice/afp/

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[acmavm]

1. You know, this would almost be laughable if there weren't so

damn many stupid people in this country who'll believe it.

[TheDebbieDee]

7. Agreed! There are still too many hook, line and sinker

Americans who are falling for this administration's drumbeat for the next war!

[HuffleClaw]

8. ain't it the truth

a scary truth. they WILL have their war.

[didact]

2. Think she confused Hamas for Hezbollah?

[Baby Snooks]

10. No, no, no....

Hezbollah is a "social relief agency" according to Isaam Fares, the deputy foreign minister of Lebanon and a friend of the Bushes and one of the most vocal supporters of Hezbollah. Hezbollah is not a terrorist organization. The State Department is confused. Just ask Condoleeza.

The man who handled the business affairs for Isaam Fares and made a fortune doing so is the mayor of Houston who is also a friend of the Clintons. Connect the dots. It's not that hard.

When is a terrorist or terrorist supporter not a terrorist or terrorist supporter? When they're a friend of the Bushes. Or a friend of the Clintons. The duplicity of the dynasty is amazing. And quite obvious if anyone bothers to look.

[Igel]

18. No, she meant Hamas.

Israel and the State Dept. for years have said Iran's helping Hamas.

Iran's denied it--Iran denies a lot of things, some of which they later admit are true--and Hamas has gone on the record both denying and affirming it.

On the other hand, there's no secret about the millions in aid that Iran's given Hamas--not to the PA. Nor is it a secret that some of the rockets fired at Israel are of Iranian provenance--whether officially sanctioned "aid" or not is the question.

In 2001 Time said Hamas and Hezbollah were former allies. A recent attack was accompanied by rumors of cooperation between the two groups.

People act like ideology defines groups. It's hard to remember that Hitler and Stalin weren't enemies, and the CPSU had whiplash when, overnight, Germany went from being the USSR's eternal ally to having always been the USSR's eternal enemy. For all the Leninist decrying of religion, it pays to remember that Lunacharsky and Lenin promised the various religious sects freedom of worship and assembly, and that the Orthodox schismatics had well-worked out smuggling routes for religious literature that the Bolsheviks piggy-backed onto to get their literature into tsarist Russia. Two examples of sets of enemies that cooperated when it served their interests, even with very, very deep-seated ideological reasons to oppose the other: Fascism/Stalinism, atheism/sectarianism.

[ck4829]

3. Then why aren't Hezbollah and Hamas working together?

Because one is Sunni and the other is Shia.

[no_hypocrisy]

4. Let me get this straight . . .

Does that mean our military has to confront and overcome Hamas in order to confront and overcome Iran in order to confront and overcome Al-Quaeda in order to confront and overcome any resistance to our illegal occupation and military rule of Iraq?

[onehandle]

5. Rice is a warmonger who should be in prison: Onehandle. nt

[saigon68]

14. A POS who belongs at the Hague

In a "designer" one piece jump suit

[Demeter]

6. The Only Way Rice Can Find Iran or Iraq Is By Getting on a Plane

and hoping the pilot knows what he/she is doing.

[ShortnFiery]

9. Which begs the question: What the Hell is the USA doing in the ME? They're not in OUR NEIGHBORHOOD?

Why do WE (the USA) have to behave like an Imperialistic THUG Nation?!?

[LiberalLovinLug]

11. "Take THAT Jimmy Carter!"

Hell hath no fury...

Jimmys not going to upstage her royal ass! If Jimmy says we can deal with Hamas, she leaps the frog and declares not only can we NEVER speak with Hamas, but that they are in cahoots with Iran and we have to blow them ALL away! What a bitter conniving biaatch.

[Proud Liberal Dem]

12. Huh?

So, is every person, nation, organization, etc. in the ME (that we don't like) somehow affiliated with Iran now???? I can remember a time when THEY said everybody was affiliated (or "had contacts") with Al-Queda justifying their imminent invasion/occupation/destruction but I guess TPTB don't really DON'T think too much about them anymore, at least not unless it somehow serves their own twisted political agenda like Iran apparently does at the moment. I mean, why spend time and effort really trying to track down and eliminate the rest of the ragtag cabal that actually orchestrated the events of 9/11 when we have most of our troops and aircraft carriers standing by right next door to another oil-rich country whose citizens are no doubt awaiting their imminent "liberation" at the hands (and bombs) of the US military.
I still don't quite understand the logic of Iran, as a matter of official government policy, actively attempting to destabilize a regime that is apparently so closely allied with their own and why, Bush, McCain, et. al are so insistent on keeping our troops over there dying for..........????? If they are so concerned about our troops being attacked by Iran and/or its proxies (if they truly are), there IS a simple solution to THAT problem and (hint, hint) it doesn't involve us staying there as an occupier indefinitely.
Of course, I'm sure Bush, McCain, et. al have already thought of these things but are clearly so much smarter than the rest of us in regards to formulating sound foreign policy
:sarcasm:

And you know that they don't care what us peons think either.
:grr:

[Amonester]

13. "keeping our troops over there dying for..........?????"

O I L

What else could they be dying, losing limbs, and mental sanity for? :grr:

[Proud Liberal Dem]

17. Yup

The fact that the Oil Ministry is the only major Iraqi ministry that the military bothered to secure/protect during the initial invasion and occupation of Iraq speaks volumes about why we're REALLY over there. Don't forget that our troops are also now dying for McCain's dreams of "permanent" 100-1,000 year military bases in Iraq housing our indefinitely deployed non-casualty, non-combatant troop garrison.:eyes:

[Joanne98]

15. Why can't she just SHUT UP for the next 7 months.

Nobody believes a word she saz anyway!

[Bigmack]

16. Iran is behind it all....

Hamas... Al Qaeda ... Terrorism.... drugs... gangs... pornography... Global Warming... the Lindberg kidnapping... the subprime mortgage crisis... rising oil prices... the rice shortage... collapse of the salmon on the West Coast... pine bark beetle....

Etc....

Why does the US need an enemy du jour? If Iran disappeared tomorrow... and it may, who would be next?

[Parche]

19. Rice Is Working As A Proxy Sec Of State For Bush

:sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm:

:hi:

[ohio2007]

20. Palestinians agree Israel truce

Twelve Palestinian factions have agreed to proposals for a truce with Israel, starting in the Gaza Strip, Egypt's state news agency Mena says.

It says the proposed ceasefire will be a "comprehensive, reciprocal and simultaneous truce", and will later be extended to the West Bank.

Fatah and Hamas, the two main rival Palestinian groups, did not attend the talks in the Egyptian capital, Cairo.



snip
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7375511.stm



never mind


false alarm


..as you were......

[bamacrat]

21. They are the real WMDs.

Am I talking of Hammas or the US gov't? You decide.

[ohio2007]

22. Will the US proxy to take on the Iranian proxy before November?

you decide;

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