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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 06:58 AM
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Siegelman speaks: Rove must testify
Source: tuscaloosanews.com

BIRMINGHAM | Former Gov. Don Siegelman said Thursday that he wants former White House adviser Karl Rove to testify before Congress, whether 'he lies under oath, tells the truth or pleads the Fifth.'

Siegelman was freed on bond March 28 after serving nine months in federal prison for bribery and obstruction of justice. He said that while his primary concern is winning his appeal, there are bigger issues involved in his prosecution by the U.S. District Attorney's Office in Montgomery.

'This is not about Don Siegelman, and it's not about the Alabama case,' he said in his first interview with an Alabama newspaper since being released from a federal prison in Oakdale, La. 'This is about America, it is about finding out who hijacked the Department of Justice and used it as a political tool to win elections.'

Siegelman, who had just returned from two days in Washington conferring with U.S. Rep. John Conyers, D-Mich., chair of the House Judiciary Committee, said he is willing to testify before Congress about his case 'or anything else they want me to do.'


Read more: http://www.tuscaloosanews.com/article/20080419/news/790...
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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 07:01 AM
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1. Thank you Mr. Singleman for pointing this out to our leaders.
'This is about America, it is about finding out who hijacked the Department of Justice and used it as a political tool to win elections.'

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Torn_Scorned_Ignored Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 01:24 PM
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25. ...hijacked the Department of Justice and used it as a political tool to win elections,
...and much more and much worse.
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SleeplessinSoCal Donating Member (710 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 02:58 PM
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26. Exactly. Maybe the Democrats will get some grit knowing it's their jobs at stake
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 07:19 AM
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2. K&R
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Riddler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 07:48 AM
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3. Rove can deny culpability and say anything he wants to in the press.
But until the little sack of puke has the balls to do it under oath, he's no more believable than anybody else in this disgusting administration who has used every means available to keep from being placed under oath.
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 08:10 AM
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4. See Now... Having to Lie Under Oath, That Takes Guts
well that or a few screws loose. Poor little worm Rove... what shall he do?
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mhoran Donating Member (289 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 09:00 AM
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10. Nothing
Georgie and his mates will fall back on executive privilege. Nothing happens until after the election, and we can be sure they will work to find some way to impede any serious investigations post-election as well.
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Hart2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 12:33 PM
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21. All the more reason to demand impeachment: no executive privilege in an impeachment.
Edited on Sat Apr-19-08 12:34 PM by Hart2008
Why would the Congress have the right to impeach if the executives actions are privileged?

If Scalia and friends want to hold otherwise, then impeach them too.
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laylah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 03:44 PM
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31. Wishful thinking!
I agree with your position; however, those worms will figure some way out! :mad:
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Hart2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 06:42 PM
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34. Pelosi, Reid, et al, are playing politics instead of upholding the constitution.
I hope Pelosi's primary opponent scares the hell our of her!

Madam squeaker has been a tremendous disappointment to many.
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bmbmd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 12:46 PM
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23. This more than anything demands that I vote for the
eventual nominee of the Democratic party. No matter how distasteful I find the winning candidate, justice demands our support of the ticket.
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The Wizard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 08:25 AM
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5. Same old story
Nothing can happen, even an investigation, until the criminal cartel known as Bush is out of power, and they may be longer than anyone thinks. Remember, they control the media that gives us election polls, and if the polls are close enough the election will be rigged, just ask Kerry, Cleland and Siegelman.
They have subverted our entire system and only millions of us in the streets raising hell can bring about "equal justice under the law." the Supreme Court is a supreme hoax.
The Vietnam war ended because millions of people were in the streets demanding and end.
As long as the arch criminal, American Rasputin/Machiavellian/Goebbels, Karl Rove remains free, elections are at risk. Torture is legal now, for all enemies foreign and domestic, isn't it?
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babydollhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 08:32 AM
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9. well said!
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OKthatsIT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 03:48 PM
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32. GOD LUV YA....finally I read something SANE
I swear..I can sift through so many posts and rarely find sanity. I see SHEEP(people) and Sheepherders(Bush/NWO) and Sheepdogs(corporate media)....but I rarely see down to earth discussion on what is 'plain as day' truth about the situation.
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 07:15 PM
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38. Far more people in the US protested the Iraq war than protested the Vietnam
war. The difference in perception all lies with the media.
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 08:26 AM
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6. Justice will come when Rove
is found guilty of subverting justice and is sent to prison, and Siegelman is found innocent upon appeal.
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trthnd4jstc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 08:27 AM
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7. I will agree that Seigelman was singled out, but please think about this....
Every State that I know of allows Govenors to select Others who wish to be on different Civil Boards. What the Republicans did was there typical visciousness. Yet, Gov. Seigelman did provide a job on the Board that oversaw Hospitals and Hospital Construction to a campaign contributor. Gov. Seigelman did something that every other Govenor that I know does. I think the various States need to make these positions something the People approve, or the State Legislators need to be involved. We have governmental systems riddled with abuse from the top to the bottom.

I do not have a clear idea how we can make things better. I would like to see the President, and the Govenor of my State, Illinois, possessing less power. I would like greater Representation for other views in our Federal House of Representatives. I would like to see the State level Boards either voted directly by We the People, or selected by the Govenor, then voted on approval by a State's Senate, or their House of Representatives.

An Idea!
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 08:27 AM
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8. Now Karl wants to chicken out of testifying
<Shortly after his release, as Siegelman was appearing via satellite connection on an MSNBC talk show, Rove's attorneys released a statement indicating that Rove would be willing to testify before the Judiciary Committee.

But after the release of the report Thursday, which also called on Rove to testify about the Siegelman case and whether he or his staff pressured prosecutors to pursue Siegelman, Rove's lawyer Robert Luskin seemed to equivocate, telling The Associated Press that Rove's appearance before any congressional committee depends on whether Congress and the White House could resolve their differences over executive privilege.

'Sending an invitation to Mr. Rove isn't in any way going to enhance the resolution of those discussions,' Luskin told AP.>

If there is such a thing a justice Mr. Rove is in deep shit for his crimes and has opened
himself up to a law suit that will ruin him. Long story short there was a coup in this
country in 2000 and a "crime family" got power and used the NSA to spy on us and the
Dept. of Justice was the muscle w/ the U.S. Attorney as the "hit men."
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StudentThinker Donating Member (14 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 10:17 AM
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16. I hope the b**tard isn't allowed
to weasel his way out this time. Executive privilege doesn't apply to discussions with the AG and the DOJ. That's an utterly BS excuse - look at what Larisa Alexandrovna has to say about it.
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 12:43 PM
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22. Welcome to DU
But sadly now the law is what "they" say it is and "they"
don't give a damn what you or I or anybody thinks.
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Frances Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 09:35 AM
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11. Thanks for posting this
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BleedingHeartPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 09:46 AM
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12. K & R. for Gov. Siegelman, who's experienced the egregious law breaking of Rove and Co, first hand.
Is Rove still making guest appearances on FAUX news?
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grannylib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 09:49 AM
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13. The whole thing is right here in a nutshell:
'This is about America, it is about finding out who hijacked the Department of Justice and used it as a political tool to win elections.'

And that's why I have no confidence whatsoever in Rove ever opening his lying yap about this. Too much at stake; too many powerful rich white guys with too much to lose.
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Hutzpa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 09:50 AM
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14. The wheels of Justice turns slow but
its eventually catches up with you and grinds you into a pate.

chuuuukaaa.... chhuuuuukaaa..... chuuuuukaaa....
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 10:15 AM
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15. I would LOVE to see the 5 page letter Rove sent to Abrams...
I expect we'll be hearing bits of them on the air over the coming weeks...
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Pastiche423 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 03:41 PM
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30. Your wish is my command...
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 10:39 AM
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17. Siegelman isn't afraid but Rove is
Why is Rove allowed to not go under oath
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OKthatsIT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 03:51 PM
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33. That's what happens when you have nothing left to lose.
...why do you think the banks are propping up the dollar? Just squeezin that last thin dime out of ya first...before you realize YOU have nothing left to lose.
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femrap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 11:09 AM
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18. Great article....
I want rove in shackles.
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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 03:06 PM
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28. Surprise, surprise, it was a good article from an Alabamian news source.
Reach Tommy Stevenson at tommy.stevenson@tuscaloosanews.com

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femrap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 09:19 PM
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39. Fine....
I gotta tell ya...I hate that avatar. You a misogynist? Like I havta ask. Do I ignore now or wait for a response? ummmmmmm.

All I care about is putting rove in jail....or I'll take any kind of Karma action against him...remember that Atwater, his teacher, got one big, fat brain tumor.
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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 01:14 PM
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43. You don't like my avatar???
:cry:

I...I...I picked it because... :cry:...it reflects how I feel about the candidate choices we've been given after... :cry:...7-1/2 years of fascist control.

Want to join me?

And, no, it would be difficult to have misogynist views, due to the fact that I am a woman. All woman, I might add.
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femrap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 09:19 PM
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44. I totally misunderstood....
But that movie, 'Psycho,' and how Janet Leigh was killed in that shower....It was the first violence I saw against women when I was a child. I can still the blood clots running down the bathtub to the drain. I still look out from behind the shower curtain....

I realized that fear was how women were controlled...so when I see Janet Leigh screaming, it reminds me of the violence against women.

I haven't gone to a 'scary' movie since 'Psycho.' Life is scary enough....lol!

I am so disgusted with this primary...I still wonder if the neocons will allow an election. I think they'll try for martial law in October. In the scheme of things, I guess it really doesn't matter who is prez....after all, 'It's the Rothschild/Rockefellers, Stupid!' Those rich white boys are calling the shots...not our supposed 'representatives.' I think we are living in fascism, but it won't matter as oil supplies decline. I just want to get off the grid and be self-sufficient and try to have as comfortable a life as possible. I'm going to plant some vegies this year and see if I can educate my thumb to become Green!

I've :cry: and :mad: for the past 7 1/2 years, too. Sorry for the misunderstanding. I can be a :dunce:
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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 10:14 AM
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45. It's quite alright...


Take care. :)
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varelse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 11:16 AM
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19. Flag lapel pins be damned: THIS is patriotism
This is not about Don Siegelman, and it's not about the Alabama case,' he said in his first interview with an Alabama newspaper since being released from a federal prison in Oakdale, La. This is about America, it is about finding out who hijacked the Department of Justice and used it as a political tool to win elections.


:patriot:
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 11:17 AM
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20. K & R
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 01:18 PM
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24. Kicked and recommended.
Thanks for the thread, maddezmom.
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 03:04 PM
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27. Congress needs to demand that Rove testify under oath regarding
...what he knows and how he was involved in the Siegelman case
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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 03:25 PM
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29. I do wonder if he was mistreated by prison officials...
They shuffled him around before taking him to Oakdale -- his family didn't even know that he would end up there. He was taken to was a maximum security facility in Atlanta for three weeks.

Why wasn't Siegelman's destination thought out beforehand, so that his family would know where he would be? Why the shuffling around? This mental torture (& quite possibly, physical torture, as well) is so indicative of how this administration treats its captives. I'm heartbroken at the thought of what Siegelman went through in prison under this administration's directive.

Siegelman said after he left the courtroom he was moved to several federal facilities before settling in at Oakdale, La.

'From Montgomery, I went straight to Atlanta to a maximum security prison, where I was kept for not quite three weeks,' he said. 'Then several of us were taken by plane to New York, then to Michigan and to Oklahoma City, where I stayed for six days.

'I thought I was eventually going to the federal prison in Texarkana, which is where I told my wife I was going,' he said. 'But I ended up in Oakdale. It was almost a month before I got there and I was in prison, all total, nine months to the day.'


:grr:
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santamargarita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 06:59 PM
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35. You don't think that greasy lard ass would ever tell the truth, do you?
Edited on Sat Apr-19-08 07:00 PM by santamargarita
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BleedingHeartPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 07:08 PM
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36. He hasn't so far. Although, he hasn't not told the truth to Congress.
He probably doesn't want to live the Gonzales experience.
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 07:12 PM
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37. K&R. (nt)
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badgervan Donating Member (745 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 10:37 PM
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40. Love the Smell....
... of fried turdblossom in the morning.
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NM Independent Donating Member (794 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 03:33 AM
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41. This gives me a warm fuzzy feeling inside
I can't wait to see that fucker cook, and enjoy the fact that the American people might see him for what he is.
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democrank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 04:27 AM
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42. Rove in a net.
Beautiful!
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bow-tie Donating Member (236 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 11:05 AM
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46. Rove's future home
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