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Rage for Order (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 01:54 AM Original message |
Muslims Nations: Defame Islam, Get Sued? |
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magellan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 02:06 AM Response to Original message |
1. President Abdoulaye Wade and Bush**, separated at birth? |
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Amused Musings (285 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 12:01 PM Response to Reply #1 |
21. All Happy Families |
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Behind the Aegis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 03:43 AM Response to Original message |
2. LOL! |
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onager (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 05:49 AM Response to Original message |
3. Your atheist correspondent in Egypt pipes up... |
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Ian David (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 07:09 AM Response to Reply #3 |
6. Isn't Green Eggs and Ham offensive to Islamic dictates, too? n/t |
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onager (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 08:32 AM Response to Reply #6 |
11. Well, the Barbie doll certainly is. |
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ayeshahaqqiqa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-16-08 07:32 AM Response to Reply #11 |
53. Well, I have always found Barbie offensive |
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onager (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-16-08 01:43 PM Response to Reply #53 |
70. Cultural note for you |
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bean fidhleir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 06:24 AM Response to Original message |
4. Laws against blasphemy are still on the books in England |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 07:49 AM Response to Reply #4 |
7. More than 'considering' - repeal has already passed the House of Lords |
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bean fidhleir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 10:31 AM Response to Reply #7 |
15. Something good, indeed. Thanks for finding that. |
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Alameda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 02:37 PM Response to Reply #15 |
35. How right you are... |
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Traction311 (229 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 01:40 PM Response to Reply #7 |
29. How does it work over there? |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 03:09 PM Response to Reply #29 |
38. Passing both houses is the practical thing that makes it law |
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onager (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 08:24 AM Response to Reply #4 |
10. Big difference. |
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bean fidhleir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 10:11 AM Response to Reply #10 |
13. You might do well to look at the reach of a fatwa - it's a "religious" opinion or exhortation |
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MaryCeleste (898 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 11:51 AM Response to Reply #13 |
19. Clearly you do not understand what a fatwa is |
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Alameda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 02:36 PM Response to Reply #19 |
34. No, clearly YOU do |
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MaryCeleste (898 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 06:41 PM Response to Reply #34 |
41. How do it not understand them |
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Alameda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 08:12 PM Response to Reply #41 |
46. I don't know where you get your |
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MaryCeleste (898 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 08:44 PM Response to Reply #46 |
47. Multiple sources |
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bean fidhleir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-16-08 04:37 AM Response to Reply #47 |
51. You're twisting what you're reading |
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ayeshahaqqiqa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-16-08 07:44 AM Response to Reply #51 |
57. thanks for posting this |
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MaryCeleste (898 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-16-08 03:08 PM Response to Reply #57 |
76. From your other posts its clear that you are Sufi, and arguably distant from the mainstream islamic |
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MaryCeleste (898 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-16-08 02:55 PM Response to Reply #51 |
72. He is just one of many opinions out there...where did he stand on the Rushie fatwa? |
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bean fidhleir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-16-08 04:47 PM Response to Reply #72 |
80. Cite your sources for your claims. Without them, you're just a hot-air generator. |
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Alameda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-16-08 10:51 AM Response to Reply #47 |
66. Please read your comment again and look clearly. |
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MaryCeleste (898 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-16-08 02:59 PM Response to Reply #66 |
73. Look at some of the fatwas issues by various muftis...they are international in scope |
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Alameda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-16-08 03:12 PM Response to Reply #73 |
77. considered universal by who? |
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ayeshahaqqiqa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-16-08 07:43 AM Response to Reply #46 |
56. absolutely right! |
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ayeshahaqqiqa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-16-08 07:40 AM Response to Reply #41 |
55. Not all Muslims think this is true, though |
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bean fidhleir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 02:45 PM Response to Reply #19 |
36. Really? In that case, neither do Muslim scholars, because I use their definition |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 06:16 PM Response to Reply #36 |
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bean fidhleir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 07:01 PM Response to Reply #40 |
44. Please don't be ridiculous. I was responding to a specific idea, namely that |
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MaryCeleste (898 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 08:07 PM Response to Reply #44 |
45. Given the number that treat them as a mandate, then you must think most muslims are psychopaths |
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bean fidhleir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-16-08 03:57 AM Response to Reply #45 |
50. Cite your sources. |
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ayeshahaqqiqa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-16-08 07:52 AM Response to Reply #45 |
59. and what exactly is that number? |
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FalconsRule (228 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-16-08 12:31 PM Response to Reply #59 |
68. To be precise, there are not BILLIONS of muslims |
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ayeshahaqqiqa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-16-08 04:50 PM Response to Reply #68 |
81. And what percentage are terrorists? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-17-08 05:54 AM Response to Reply #81 |
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ayeshahaqqiqa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-17-08 06:31 AM Response to Reply #86 |
87. So you would persecute all Muslims |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-17-08 08:11 AM Response to Reply #87 |
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ayeshahaqqiqa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-16-08 07:50 AM Response to Reply #40 |
58. Just out of curiosity |
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ayeshahaqqiqa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-16-08 07:34 AM Response to Reply #13 |
54. absolutely |
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FalconsRule (228 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-16-08 12:25 PM Response to Reply #4 |
67. When was the last time a person in |
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bean fidhleir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-17-08 09:15 AM Response to Reply #67 |
91. When was the last time a majority-Muslim country was complicit in crimes against peace |
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Ian David (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 07:07 AM Response to Original message |
5. Is the guy who came up with this named Billhamed Donahuejihad? n/t |
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LiberalFighter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 08:19 AM Response to Original message |
8. THESE muslims must want a war. |
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LiberalFighter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 08:20 AM Response to Original message |
9. The only good religion |
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eib1 (75 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-16-08 10:01 AM Response to Reply #9 |
63. Amen. |
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MaryCeleste (898 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-16-08 03:03 PM Response to Reply #9 |
74. There is sort of a sliding scale about religions around here |
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harun (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 08:57 AM Response to Original message |
12. What they are saying makes sense. Say anything you want |
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tidy_bowl (249 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 10:12 AM Response to Reply #12 |
14. So who named you the religion policeman? |
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bean fidhleir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 10:35 AM Response to Reply #14 |
16. It's true. Everyone does have the right to play the fool on the internet and many do. |
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tidy_bowl (249 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 09:32 PM Response to Reply #16 |
49. Remember that one man's idiot is another man's prophet.... |
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Zenlitened (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 11:28 AM Response to Reply #12 |
17. DU gets dumber by the day, and posts like yours are proof of it. |
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MaryCeleste (898 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 11:50 AM Response to Reply #12 |
18. What they are saying "we want to suppress free speech and opression" becasue it offends us |
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eib1 (75 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-16-08 10:02 AM Response to Reply #12 |
64. Why, sir, you live in a democratic society. |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-17-08 07:39 AM Response to Reply #12 |
89. Yeah, yeah. Just like officially-sanctioned English copies of the Quran aren't REALLY what the Quran |
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MaryCeleste (898 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 11:52 AM Response to Original message |
20. Free Speech and Expression, yet another basic freedom Islam finds repugnant |
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High Plains (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 12:02 PM Response to Reply #20 |
22. Is this any different from if Christians had their way? |
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Bush_MUST_Go (378 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 12:20 PM Response to Reply #22 |
23. So when do we start suing Muslim countries for THEIR rhethoric against us? |
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MaryCeleste (898 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 12:28 PM Response to Reply #22 |
24. Yes, because xtians don't kill over it and muslims do |
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MindPilot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 01:25 PM Response to Reply #24 |
27. This is how the Christians do it |
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MaryCeleste (898 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 01:35 PM Response to Reply #27 |
28. Boycotts do not have the force of law behing them |
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eib1 (75 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-16-08 10:03 AM Response to Reply #22 |
65. Christians have had their way in the west for years, |
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MindPilot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 01:00 PM Response to Original message |
25. Allah must be the most impotent god ever. |
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MaryCeleste (898 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 01:20 PM Response to Reply #25 |
26. Mohamed (may pulled pork have been his last meal) was a lot of things |
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Alameda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 02:34 PM Response to Reply #26 |
33. Mohammed sawas is not deified in Islam |
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MaryCeleste (898 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 06:08 PM Response to Reply #33 |
39. Note the word "effectively" |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-16-08 12:32 PM Response to Reply #39 |
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ayeshahaqqiqa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-16-08 05:12 PM Response to Reply #69 |
84. Like many of the royal families of Europe at the time n/t |
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bean fidhleir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 02:57 PM Response to Reply #25 |
37. Muhammad DID see it coming...in a general sense, of course |
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fascisthunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 02:07 PM Response to Original message |
30. Funny How Some folks Here Scream about the Same Thing Towards Their Own Religions |
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seriousstan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 02:16 PM Response to Original message |
31. So sue me.........DANCE MOHAMMED......DANCE!!!!!!!!! |
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rayofreason (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 02:24 PM Response to Original message |
32. Here is the problem |
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MaryCeleste (898 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 06:45 PM Response to Reply #32 |
42. I saw (MPPHBHLM) on a t-shirt. I wish I could take credit for it |
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ayeshahaqqiqa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-16-08 07:58 AM Response to Reply #32 |
60. If you are a Sufi in many Muslim countries |
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MaryCeleste (898 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-16-08 03:04 PM Response to Reply #60 |
75. Try being a Bahai |
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Boojatta (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 06:47 PM Response to Original message |
43. They could create an alliance with Mormons. |
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MaryCeleste (898 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 08:45 PM Response to Reply #43 |
48. There are some things even the descendants of Joesph Smith won't do |
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ayeshahaqqiqa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-16-08 07:30 AM Response to Original message |
52. You don't understand Islam |
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ohio2007 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-16-08 09:14 AM Response to Reply #52 |
61. its a group that abides by a 'mob rule' mentality |
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ayeshahaqqiqa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-16-08 05:10 PM Response to Reply #61 |
83. Don't you think you're generalizing a tad bit? |
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MaryCeleste (898 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-16-08 03:15 PM Response to Reply #52 |
78. Any you clearly do not understand the xtians |
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ayeshahaqqiqa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-16-08 05:03 PM Response to Reply #78 |
82. Since I was a Christian for 38 years |
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MaryCeleste (898 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-16-08 05:25 PM Response to Reply #82 |
85. I have family that is...and have seen the persecution first hand |
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eib1 (75 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-16-08 10:00 AM Response to Original message |
62. If the world has moved toward democracy, |
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onager (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-16-08 02:37 PM Response to Original message |
71. Newsflash! Atheist survives Muslim wedding! |
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MaryCeleste (898 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-16-08 03:18 PM Response to Reply #71 |
79. I have had the pleasure of being at nuptials in many ME traditions |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-17-08 07:36 AM Response to Original message |
88. Can Christians sue Saudi Arabia? Or maybe we can hire the SudaneseMuslim Brotherhood. |
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