1 in 4 teen girls has sexually transmitted disease

[Pale Blue Dot]

Source: MSNBC

At least one in four teenage girls nationwide has a sexually transmitted disease, or more than 3 million teens, according to the first study of its kind in this age group.

A virus that causes cervical cancer is by far the most common sexually transmitted infection in teen girls aged 14 to 19, while the highest overall prevalence is among black girls — nearly half the blacks studied had at least one STD. That rate compared with 20 percent among both whites and Mexican-American teens, the study from the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention found.

About half of the girls acknowledged ever having sex; among them, the rate was 40 percent. While some teens define sex as only intercourse, other types of intimate behavior including oral sex can spread some infections.

For many, the numbers likely seem “overwhelming because you’re talking about nearly half of the sexually experienced teens at any one time having evidence of an STD,” said Dr. Margaret Blythe, an adolescent medicine specialist at Indiana University School of Medicine and head of the American Academy of Pediatrics’ committee on adolescence.



Read more: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23574940/

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We can't let the anti-science crowd stop us from educating teens about safe sex and STDs.

:-(

[jody]

1. "anti-science crowd stop us from educating teens about safe sex and STDs"? I don't believe all the

teen age girls with STD are ignorant.

IMO it's more likely they ignored the material presented to them or perhaps in a few rare cases were simply not able to understand the material.

How do you propose to prevent STD among those who won't or can't follow advice?

Chasity belts? :shrug:

I'm serious, what do you propose?

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

6. letting teens know masturbation is ok

Really. Self gratification doesn't transmit disease, doesn't hurt anyone, and yet it is looked down upon. Sure, it won't stop all girls, but if they have sex simply because they feel the need, it can help calm things down a bit.

[defendandprotect]

31. Here you go: "Masturbation is safe sex --- the safest sex" . . . !!!

[Tight_rope]

92. Damn straight it is....More people should practice it...n/t.

[MnFats]

34. and as Woody Allan said, it's sex with someone you love.

sorry to be flippant. i do agree with you, as a matter of fact.

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

64. excellent point

thanks for the quote!

[Capn Sunshine]

49. Yet this simple statement cost Jocelyn Elders her job as surgeon general

It was the conservatives then as well.

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

65. I know

I was really sad when that happened.

[JeanGrey]

51. But it can't get you a boyfriend, can it?

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

62. Neither can unprotected sex

and any girl who thinks otherwise is sadly mistaken. Instead of a boyfriend, they have a sex partner who will dump them if any problems, like an STD or pregnancy, occur.

[JeanGrey]

79. Of course, but that isn't what THEY think. I'm amazed that

anyone is surprised at these statistics. For god's sake the Governor of NY is known for "not wearing" a condom. And we expect teens to be smarter? With all the peer pressure they have?

[Xenotime]

122. which it was his fucking problem to start with..

pisses me off that some guys get to walk away from their mistakes.

[physioex]

7. Nonsense....

Teenagers are in the process of transition from childhood to adulthood. Obviously there are going to be bumps in the road and some (if not most) will behave foolishly. It's our job as adults to ensure that they are armed with knoweledge, but a certain minority doesn't want this....

And yes you are correct some will not follow that advice.

[jody]

10. OK, what do you propose? n/t

[physioex]

11. Depends on what you mean...

Ideally: I would like to be rid of the influence of organized religion in our schools and private lives. Even better get rid of it all togethor as I am a big fan of Richard Dawkins. But hey that ain't gonna happen in my life.

Practially: I think we should support organizations like Planned Parenthood (which I am a proud member). And more education programs.

[jody]

22. The OP said 25% of teen girls have STD and implied lack of education was a major factor. I offered

my opinion that some/many of the girls had received sex education but either ignored that guidance or were unable to understand the threat.

I then asked how should we deal with those girls leading to my cryptic question, "OK, what do you propose?"

I am very serious about this issue and I don't believe the answer is as simple as more education.

[physioex]

27. Hmmm....

I said in my response that some will not follow the advice. Did you read what I said?

I don't know what to say. Adequate education, availablity of protection, and parental involvement. It seems to work for most European countries. I suppose the other extreme would be Africa with little to no education programs.

We are all serious about this issue. It hurts my wallet when I sent them PP $50 last month.

[jody]

29. I read your post. I was responding to your OP subject "Depends on what you mean".

You say it works for most European countries but I believe they have problems within ethnic communities just as the OP suggests we have here in the U.S.

STD destroys a young person's life and they are mere kids.

[Pale Blue Dot]

28. FIRST, I would want to see the data that shows that

"some/many of the girls had received sex education but either ignored that guidance or were unable to understand the threat." Without that data, both of us are just making assumptions. We need to do the research, or examine the research if it has already been done; that is the scientific way.

[jody]

33. I agree re stats. I said in #1 "I don't believe all the teen age girls with STD are ignorant."

I said in #22 "my opinion that some/many of the girls had received sex education but either ignored that guidance or were unable to understand the threat."

A quick look at what Wikipedia had to offer produced the following, Sex education
"Almost all U.S. students receive some form of sex education at least once between grades 7 and 12; many schools begin addressing some topics as early as grades 5 or 6. However, what students learn varies widely, because curriculum decisions are so decentralized. Many states have laws governing what is taught in sex education classes or allowing parents to opt out. Some state laws leave curriculum decisions to individual school districts."

Subject to other stats, I stand by "my opinion that some/many of the girls had received sex education but either ignored that guidance or were unable to understand the threat."

[physioex]

36. LOL...

So it concerns me how you "define" sex education. You can't stand there with a straight face and tell people that an hour lecture between the age of 7 and 12 constitues "sex education" and after having received this "education" the girls continued to ignore the advice they were given.....

P.S. Do not quote wiki as a reference. It can be edit by any monkey with a keyboard....

On Edit: I made a mistake, I meant grade not age.

[jody]

42. I know about Wiki's limitations however it is a quick source of external links as experienced

scholars have found.

Thanks but no-thanks for your P.S.

Have a nice day. :hi:

[physioex]

43. You too....

Take care now... :hi:

[loser_user]

90. One could give an hour lecture about

not smoking and drinking and people would still ignore it.

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

67. Raising girls' self esteem would help as well

Now I may be wrong about this, but it seems to me that many of the girls who have sex as teens do it because they are looking for something outside themselves to prove their worth. What better way than for a girl to have a boyfriend? This "proves" they are worthy. But a girl who knows she is loved and cherished for what she is is less likely to get involved in a disasterous relationship.

Along with self-esteem must come empowerment, which comes from knowing there are choices that can be made. They include self-gratification, safe sex, and knowing when it is ok to say no to social pressures.

[Political Heretic]

100. I think you are wrong.

Responsible sex education isn't just "education" in the sense that its teaching totally ignorant people new information. That's part of it for some. But you need to think of it more like an "awareness campaign."

When schools and pubic services are presented from giving honest, helpful information about encouraging safe sex, talking honestly about the "safest sex" and continually raising awareness, then the issue is depriporitized in the minds of kids and not taken seriously.

It's not just about the literal education component - its also about awareness raising. Schools need a free hand to not only tell the truth about responsible sexual attitudes, but also to be able to reinforce that message regularly without the interference of ignorant crazies.

So think of it this way: 1 in 4 teen girls having an STD is probably related to the lack of effective emphasis on prevention and awareness due to the constant backlash and pressure not to say anything at all. It's easy to "ignore" the information when the information is not consistently presented and reinforced.

It's like an ad campaign - one ad run on one network one time isn't very effective. An ad campaign, however, can be very effective. Schools need a free hand to raise the issues of prevention and awareness.

[SharonAnn]

118. Your "opinion" is that some/many ... had received sex education?

I can assure you that here, in East Tennessee fundamentalist country, The only sex education in schools or churches is Abstinence. Teens see billboards that say that condom failures are 67%.

These kids really don't receive any education. When the hormones hit and temptation takes over, they are woefully unprepared.

[Beer Snob-50]

96. i agree with your practical solutions

however can't we include the religious aspect in with using condoms or other birth control?

[physioex]

98. What do you mean?

It's the religious people that are against premarital sex. Which is idealogically is fine with me. However, they are also against the use of condoms. So what are are your suggesting?

[Warpy]

78. You have to teach them the mechanics of how to prevent disease

as well as have those methods available to them.

Unfortunately, we have an insane policy in this country of "abstinence" teaching, something that sex phobic religious types have been using to keep their little girls as pure as the driven snow for thousands of years with disastrous results for their little girls.

Real sex education in this country is seen as an usurpation of the parental right to keep their children ignorant in the hope that those raging teenage hormones won't be noticed.

Fat chance.

I believe this statistic and I believe it's proof of the dismal failure 7 years of nonstop abstinence "education" has been.

Let the churches preach abstinence. Let the schools teach the kids what they need to know to live through the experimentation years.

[physioex]

2. Oh Yea...I agree.

If we were only allowed to give children the facts on behaviour it's consequences and protection we would all be a lot better, but no we live in the dark ages were sex is a taboo subject.

[DS1]

3. They have Britney, Paris, and Lindsay to look up to

Trickle down diseaseonomics?

[90-percent]

4. uhhhh

the phrase "trickle down disease" sounds revolting.

-90% Jimmy

[DS1]

5. precisely

:D

[physioex]

8. Silly...

That is just pop culture sold by corporations, and it's been around a lot longer than Britney and Lidsay. Aren't you oversimplifying?

[DS1]

9. Probably

[physioex]

14. Glad you agree....

The problem I have with "pinning" it on Britney and Lindsay is because that's what the RW does. They don't want to face the fact they they themselves are the problem.

[Taverner]

13. But they'd be disease free if someone had used protection

Whether they were trying to be like Britney or not

[OKthatsIT]

25. EXACTLY...teach our teens about protection!!!

Stop this stupid powerlessness. WE ARE NOT SHEEP. We can teach our children about condoms. We can teach our children about healthy sexuality, too.

IF people insist on being blind, their children will suffer. If people insist on being SHEEP, we ALL will suffer.

It all relates.

I raised 2 boys to adulthood and 1 teen girl(who is not sexually active, yet.). My boys have been in long term relationships, 1 got married. My approach to sexuality started early. The boys were around 9-10 when I started talking about relationships and sex. I basically told them that I have one expectation. Loving, respectful, and caring relationships are the healthiest sexual relationships. Forming bonds and growing together. Mating is a commitment on many levels. And women are more vulnerable to emotional harm when they're teenagers. I told my sons that I have no problem with them bringing their girlfriends home and having privacy in their own bedrooms, too. But I DO EXPECT that they protect themselves and that they take their relationship very seriously. I will not allow superficial relationships in my house.

I also explained that girls may look like they are fully developed by the time their 14 yrs old but they are still developing internally. Girls need more time to set up chemical ph levels, as well as stronger bodies to bear children.

So basically, these boys grew up knowing that they could talk to me. And they did. If you won't talk to them, they will have to learn by experience and that usually means, the hard way. Humans learn by mistakes...but that could be avoided if we kept communication open and non-judgemental. After all, our job as parents is to make sure we can get these children into adulthood with abiliies to discern and judge for themselves, right? Well, it aint going to happen if you just let them float through life without pointing out the important matters they will be confronted with.

[physioex]

41. This is probably the best post in this thread...

It pretty much sums up what I saying in one post.

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

69. we need more parents like you

My mother was embarrassed to even talk about menstruation--never said anything about sex except "Don't disgrace your family." Took a few books when I was in college for me to find out even what my body truly was like.

[Heddi]

109. I wish I could reccomend a post! EXCELLENT!

My mother started teaching me age-appropriate sex ed from the time I was a toddler and asked "where did I come from". There was no "stork" BS or anything like that. Straight facts throughout my life that continued and got more in-depth as I got older.

When I was about 11 or 12 we got the surgeons' general warning in the mail about the AIDS epidemic--this was around 1988 or so. THat's when the hardcore facts of sex were relayed--STD's, unintentional pregnancy, peer pressure and internal pressure.

My mother always let it be known that masturbation wasn't shameful and that it was a great way to relieve sexual tension without having to worry about STD's or pregnancy :)

When I was 15 she took me to the free clinic and got me on the pill. I didn't start having any kind of sex until I was 18, but I was well prepared. I always knew I could talk to her and that she would be a willing participant in any conversation I wanted to have. In case there were questions I was "ashamed" to ask, she provided me with books on sex and sexuality for teenagers so that I could inform myself if I felt I coudln't come to her.

And it wasn't just vaginal sex--we talked about oral sex, and that you can get STD's from that, too. We talked about anal sex, and you can get STD's from that, too. We talked about multiple sex partners and homo-and-bisexuality.

She was a younger mother than her ideal--had me when she was 20 with nothing but a high school education. She stressed the importance of not just waiting until I was ready to have sex, but realizing that sex carries with it real responsibilities, and that one can be as careful as possible and still have an "accident" happen.

She never gave me any BS talk about "sex is for marriage", and that "abstinence was best"---she was a realist. Child of the 60's. Understood the reality was that I probably wouldn't be married the first time I had sex, and probably wouldn't marry the first person I had sex with. BUt she did teach me responsibility and realistic attitudes about sex.

Always emphasised for ME to be prepared because spur of the moment situations arise where I can't count on HIM to be prepared. "A girl with a condom isn't a slut. A girl with a condom is smart and prepared" she told me.

Because of her frank honesty about sex and sexuality, I was able to avoid some of the pitfalls that a teenager like I was--big boobs, older looking, good looking--can fall into. I was able to make healthy decisions about my body until I was ready to undertake the responsibility of sex. I was probably a real dud for some guys because I wouldn't do it without the pill, a condom, and spermicidal foam. So much for spur-of-the-moment, right :)

WEll, I'm 32 now, happily married and childfree by choice. I shudder to think what my life would have been like had I not had a parent that was so open an honest. My life would probably not be the same, as I would probably have an unplanned pregnancy at an early age.

[Tab]

19. Or into

Depending on which "getting out of the limo" shot you have.

[Capn Sunshine]

50. I guarantee one of those three has the virus in question

if not all three. Guarantee.

[Taverner]

12. OMG that can't be true, can it?

But I can definitely see how we get there with Abstinence ed...

[physioex]

16. LOL...

What a joke that is. They just have unprotected oral anal intercourse and consider themselves "virgins"....

[Taverner]

18. Exactly

Virgin means absolutely nothing in my dictionary...and my kids will know everything by the time they enter middle school to keep themselves safe, alive and not pregnant.

[OKthatsIT]

15. LIARS. This article stinks of PHARMA propaganda, sexism, and racism.

LIARS. This article stinks of propaganda and racism. This article feels like a 'scare tactic' to make sure the Govt steps in and forces Americans to buy PHARMA vaccines.

The vaccine they want to force parents to give their preteen girls doesn't even effect most cancerous STDs. It's likened to the worthless flu shots that they are finally admitting aren't doing a damn bit of good, and possibly great harm. There have been reports of neurotoxicity, hemoraging and deaths. This vaccine is worse than the HepB vaccine of the 90's.

Until we have an FDA that isn't tied to PHARMA, don't take any chances. It could be your daughters life. Notice how they focus on girls' sexuality? Only girls. This a friggin CORPORATE+GOVT PSYOP.

[razors edge]

20. That's the first thing I thought. n/t

[LeftyMom]

21. Y'know, they make a pill for that.

:popcorn:

[OKthatsIT]

26. What are you babbling about?

[Name removed]

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[Recursion]

37. They're probably counting anyone with a wart or a cold sore

as having HPV or herpes, respectively.

[Megahurtz]

45. That could be true!

Evil Big Pharma wants sales! Ugh. And all of the crap they sneak into vaccines like mercury and what-not. :puke:

[Sen. Walter Sobchak]

53. my family has been ravaged by cervical cancer

Every young woman in my family has received Gardasil. I trust Merck more than the men they will fuck or their self-control and responsibility. When I was a teenager the only STD I had heard of was AIDS and at that time it was believed only homosexual men could get it. I didn't even learn about HPV until university level biology. The only thing the young and horny worry about is pregnancy and making sure their parents don't find out their screwing.

Two women suffered from cervical cancer in my family, one had been a full fledged hippie who doesn't have a clue how many men she has been with and one was a virgin on her wedding day who got HPV from her husband who attempted suicide over it.

If you want to have an ideological power-play over the health of young women that is up to you.

[OKthatsIT]

61. Merck Vaccine doesn't promise you a damn thing

IT only works on 3%(and that's optimistic) of the cervical cancers....SO THEY SAY.

It's WORTHLESS. AND DANGEROUS.

[TZ]

85. It is 90% effective agaisnt HPV

Which causes *other* things besides cervical cancer. It also causes genital warts and is highly transmissible to men as well (who can get genital warts). 80% of the adult population has an HPV infection. Think about that 80% of the population has an possible STD.
And it is highly efffective in preventing cervical cancer, by protecting agaisnt HPV. Coming soon..HPV vaccine for men, and another HPV vaccine that protects agaisnt MORE strains of HPV. Yeah. Real ineffective...
Then again we should all take the word of someone who is incapable of passing high school biology.

[Sen. Walter Sobchak]

108. just remember

the death of a woman or barbarous surgery is a small price to pay for depriving Merck of $50

[khaos]

74. "I trust Merck.."

why? what did they do to earn your trust?

[dropkickpa]

75. Seriously?

The gardasil vaccine protects against the 2 HPV strains that are responsible for a combined 70% of cervical cancers worldwide.

2nd leading cause of cancer deaths in women worldwide? Cervical cancer.

Cause of 99% of those cases? HPV

The reason they focus on girls is because 1. there is no reliable test in men for HPV16 and 18. Men are basically silent carriers and 2. We are the ones that get the cancer

It is my daughter's life, and I plan on protecting her from what I went through.

[Deep13]

88. So the facts are wrong, not your paranoia?

:shrug:

[swag]

17. Take a bow, Matcom.

[GoddessOfGuinness]

23. HPV is causing a higher incidence of oral cancers, too...

"It is also now confirmed that in a younger age group, including those who have never used tobacco products, have a cause which is HPV viral based. The human papilloma virus, particularly version 16, has now been shown to be sexually transmitted between partners, and is conclusively implicated in the increasing incidence of young non-smoking oral cancer patients. This is the same virus that is the causative agent in more than 90% of all cervical cancers. It is the foundation's belief, based on recent revelation in peer reviewed published data in the last few years that in people under the age of 50, HPV may even be replacing tobacco as the primary causative agent in the initiation of the disease process."
http://www.oralcancerfoundation.org/facts/index.htm

:(

[OKthatsIT]

39. CANCER IS CAUSED BY CANDIDA

which basically means oxygen starved cells. The causes are more likely caused by environmental breakdown. Toxicity in food, water, and air.

Cancers are forming earlier because we've tip our children's health over the edge. AND..honesty, do you really know what has been out in all their vaccinations?

Look, I was a FLOWER CHILD of the 60's/70's. We did not have such statistics of cancers even during the most sexually active collective. The rates of cervical cancer today has skyrocketed in the last 10yrs.

Now, why is that?

Do your research...

http://candida-international.blogspot.com/2007/03/is-cancer-caused-by-candida-fungus.html

[Pale Blue Dot]

46. Wow. You sure know a lot about cancer.

Where did you get your medical degree?

[OKthatsIT]

48. Years of research. Higher Education teaches you ....

WHAT THEY WANT YOU TO KNOW!

BAAA!

[Name removed]

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[varkam]

110. That's right! You tell 'em!

College is for suckers!

:rofl:

[physioex]

47. I am sure about that....

I never thougth of candida as condition with "oxygen starved cells". You see our body is filled with bacteria. Some are good and are vital in the body's function while some are unwated. Candida occurs when the normal flora "good bacteria" are killed and replaced with the bad. Additionally candida can be caused by other methods like overuse of antibiotics.

[GoddessOfGuinness]

52. I often have wondered about that...

I've heard of candida infections resulting from cancer and chemo. But is it possible that "good bacteria" destroyed by overuse of antibiotics could combat certain kinds of cancer?

[TZ]

57. candida is NOT bacteria

Yeast is an entirely different organism. And actually sometimes yeast is used in some recombinant DNA work. But its not a bacteria.
Anyone who claims it has anything to do with cancer is scientifically illiterate. Cancer has more to do with genetic defects/damage. Although its more often VIRI (like HPV) that are associated with cancer. Only one bacteria so far (H.Pylori) has been associated with cancer, and thats the same bacteria that causes ulcers.
No antibiotic use has NOTHING TO DO WITH CANCER

[physioex]

68. My fault...

Yes you are correct. I did take freshman microbiology long time ago but I just recallled (correct me if I am wrong) bacteria, yeasts, and virus. Virus aren't really living or microogranism just stray genetic material that need microogranisms to reproduce. And an increased levels of the bad yeasts leads to candida.

Cancer put simply is abnormalities in the cells genetics cause them to reproduce in an uncontrolled manner and do not know when to die "apoptosis" at the end of their life cycle.

[GoddessOfGuinness]

81. Thanks for your info...

I guess I should have phrased my question better...I understand that candida is a yeast.

While bacteria doesn't typically cause cancer, is it possible that the presence of good bacteria could create an environment that is hostile to the viri which can cause cancer? (Sorry if it sounds like a dumb question!)

[OKthatsIT]

59. It's also becoming systemic because of environmental toxins

and we wonder why there's a huge DIE-OFF?

- industrial farms produce toxic food (GM, pesticides, herbacides, industrial wastes, human waste sludge)

- industrial farms have depleted minerals in the soil(essentially, we eat and eat and still don't fulfill daily vitimin requirements)

- Radiated Food, Microwave Food, Preservatives and Hydrogenated Oils.

- JET FUEL, ROCKET FUEL, and Govt Aerosol Programs spraying Aluminum, Potassium, Magnesium, BARIUM, CADMIUM, THORIUM, and polymers(capable of transporting biolgicals).

- HARMFUL VACCINATONS (Do you really know what's in those vaccinations? http://www.informedchoice.info/cocktail.html)

- AMA and PHARMA and the US GOVT prescribing drugs instead of finding less harmfull alternatives. Prevention alternatives work, but they don't make money for all the above.

http://www.worstpills.org/
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2886269353175462948&hl=enhttp://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4147551008386395793&q=Genetically+Modified+Crop&total=610&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=3
http://candida-international.blogspot.com/2007/03/is-cancer-caused-by-candida-fungus.html

[TZ]

55. BULLSHIT

Yeast does NOT CAUSE CANCER. Actually candida CAUSES YEAST INFECTION.
Cancers are caused by about 1,000 different things INCLUDING GENETICS.
Did you go to Bozo's clown school for biology? Your post shows the sad state of scientific education in this country.
And you do know that epidemiological records for Cancer have been kept for over 50 years at least right?
What the fuck do you think NIH, CDC, and hospitals like Johns Hopkins do?
DING! You get my award for most dumb scientific poster EVER!

[OKthatsIT]

63. RESEARCH out of the box...then maybe we'll save people!

http://candida-international.blogspot.com/2007/03/is-cancer-caused-by-candida-fungus.html

[Pavulon]

70. Real source http://jama.ama-assn.org/

I could link DOZENS of these. They are lying all over my home.
http://jco.ascopubs.org/

You are WOEFULLY mis-informed.

[moggie]

82. What methodology do you use in your research?

Since you believe that your method of researching is better at arriving at reliable knowledge than conventional scientific research, it might be useful if you could explain what techniques you use.

[Dr. Strange]

89. I believe it involves a dart board...

and a pile of mashed potatoes. The tenants of Scientology prevent me from saying more...

[Megahurtz]

71. For someone who harps on being such an intelligent Scientist

:eyes:

...you sure don't know shit about Social Etiquette.

[TZ]

83. Oh so sorry! I just can't be nice TO LIARS

Who are also stupid and have political agendas and HIJACK threads. I don't give a FLYING FUCK about etiquitte.
I do however care very much about scientific illiteracy and fucking FEAR MONGERING thats all over this goddamn thread.
If there is anyone one here that doesn't realize that STD's are a HUGE problem in socieity then they are just dumb or a fundie.
You choose.

[OKthatsIT]

105. you can't be nice...period.

[GoneOffShore]

114. Thanks for your post

So very interesting - And you've just grown my ignore list.

Kind of like a yeast infection.

:hi:

[Megahurtz]

112. ...

[physioex]

73. Obviously you are the expert.....

In the scientific discipline. But be nice and work towards convincing people and pointing them in the right direction.

[TZ]

86. Sorry. They won't be nice to me, I can tell you that (I was called a janitor by these types)

I post facts for RATIONAL people to learn from. People who screech about BIG PHARMA IS TEH EVUL and call me a stalker for countering their utter bullshit get no quarter from me.

[Megahurtz]

113. And you

are not irrational???

[dropkickpa]

76. Candida

Athlete's foot and yeast infections cause cancer? Wow, I'll have to run out and tell all of the cancer researchers I work with that they are barking up the wrong tree.

It was all of that foot sex I engaged in that caused my cancer, now I know!

[moggie]

111. ...

[Megahurtz]

115. Right, just "Ask YOUR Doctor" the TV says

:sarcasm:

[khaos]

24. is this an advertisement for merck?

http://www.drerika.com/newsmaker/files/-657035189786902/blog060307.html

[defendandprotect]

32. And, wouldn't males have STD's at an even higher rate --- ???

Or are they just less worrisome STD's . . . ???

[Recursion]

38. Actually, no

It's much easier in many cases for a woman to get an STD from a man than vice versa; the result is a very few infected males can spread a disease to a large number of females without it significantly kicking back to the male population, especially when you consider that sexually active males typically have a greater number of partners than females (fewer males are generally sexually active in a given age group, but they are active with more partners than the females in the cohort).

[defendandprotect]

80. Right . .. the payload from the male to the female is more significant . . . IF . . .

they aren't wearing a condom . . . is that what we're actually saying . . .
they're not using condoms ---??? !!!

The STD's spread when condoms are used should be equal, should they not?

[Megahurtz]

35. Those Fundie-Inspired Government Funded Abstinence Programs

must really be working well. :sarcasm:

:eyes:

Holy Crap.

[Overseas]

99. That's right -- And many of those gals are still virgins !!

Oral and Anal don't count! Isn't that great? Abstain from the vagina and you're fine.

If condoms were the norm throughout our society, that would help. But then the Maury show would go out of business.

[napi21]

40. Are we sure this isn't more proof of "abstinence only" NOT working?

That sounds like an awfully high % to me. I know I've read the stats that prove "abstinence only" has failed, and it makes sense to me that there would be a link to STD's.

[OKthatsIT]

44. Don't count on Govt or People connecting the dots.

too dumbed down.

[TZ]

58. Says the person who doesn't know anything about

genetics, biology and cancer. But I forget. Scientists are dumb right? Only YOU, Dr. Google knows the TWOOF.
H

[OKthatsIT]

60. Quit stalking me

[TZ]

84. Quit posting scientific BULLSHIT THEN

I don't like ignorance.

[Megahurtz]

117. Just because

it's not fucking peer-reviewed doesn't mean it's bullshit. :eyes: Candida can cause cancer, but so can pollution and parasites.

[Q3JR4]

121. If you're doing real science

you come up with a hypothesis, devise a test for that hypothesis and then publish the results in a peer-reviewed journal. You pick a peer-reviewed journal because maybe your wrong in a way that's obvious to other individuals IN THAT FIELD OF RESEARCH (hence the peer-reviewed part). You wouldn't want someone with a high school education or a liberal arts degree attempting to referee something of which they have no understanding.

If, on the other hand, an idea has been around for generations (i.e., aliens are among us, "creation science" explains where the universe came from, leaches will suck out the bad blood, homeopathy has some kind of medicinal power, etc) and experiments have shown the hypotheses to be wrong and incorrect, or science cannot prove or disprove the idea in question, then it falls under the very definition of pseudoscientific bullshit.

Again I repeat myself...

If you can't prove or disprove something within the framework of the peer-reviewed research process then by the very definition it IS bullshit.

Q3JR4.

[Megahurtz]

72. And I suppose YOU

know everything. :eyes:

:rofl:

Good God. Holy Crap.

[TZ]

87. I know more than 99% of the idiots on this board

A biology degree and 10 years of experience in vaccines/biotechnology do give knowledge. Whats you degree btw? Besides google?
I never claimed to know everything. But I do know more than the uneducated masses. You and many here are a sad commentary on the state of education in this country. Almost everything I have shared is HIGH SCHOOL BIOLOGY.

[OKthatsIT]

106. Well that explains everything

you CANT think outside the box ...

[Thor_MN]

124. There is a difference between lateral thinking and batshit crazy

Myth based propaganda shouted from the roof tops is not lateral thinking. The internet has taken the mimeographed "LSD Tatoos in your your neighborhood" flyers and given them new life. All of health care is a fraud, all drugs are only to generate profits, you have 7 pounds of rotting food stuck in your colon, put these pads on your feet or candles in your ear your ears to suck out the toxins.

The fundie antiscience movement is bad enough. At least they have a reason for trying to keep people stupid.

[Megahurtz]

116. Right...

[0007]

54. So's that's what wrong with Chris Hanson

Will he ever find the guy who gave him a disease he can't get rid of?

[OKthatsIT]

66. ?

[alarimer]

77. Vaccinate them all against HPV now.

Some of those girls will die of cancer later on without it. I wish there was a vaccine for herpes. But vaccines, when available will go a long way to protecting them. And condoms. Everyone needs to know how to use them and not to be embarrassed by it.

Stupid fundie shit like abstinence-only is going to kill people one day.

[devilgrrl]

91. This article is a heaping pile of BULLSHIT. BTW, how did the girls get the STD's to begin with?

Is it safe to assume that 1 in 4 boys is carrying a STD?

What a crock shit!

:nuke:

[Elspeth]

93. Yeah, where is the report on teen boys?

Those creatures that can't clean their rooms and let food rot under their beds.

[slackmaster]

97. Don't worry, there will be one soon I'm sure

So that devilgrrl will be able to complain about how sexist researchers ignore girls.

[Elspeth]

102. Now, now. I was actually serious, though.

Boys with STDs or carrying them are more dangerous.

[slackmaster]

103. I think the real underlying issue is that kids are naive and have a false sense of indestructibility

Boys with STDs or carrying them are more dangerous.

Maybe so, but the study cited in the OP is about girls.

[Elspeth]

104. I know what the OP was about

And if those girls were having sex with each other and not with the boys, there's be far fewer STDs.

[JPZenger]

94. "Wear those helmuts, boys, wear those helmuts"

The university's gynecologist used to come to our fraternity parties. He used to go around saying:

"Trust me, there's alot of herpes out there. Wear those helmuts, boys, wear those helmuts."

[OKthatsIT]

107. no oral sex for anybody : (

Let's try asking the kids to wear condoms, no oral sex, until their parents get them check out by a doctor. Once they're 'all clear', then we can tell them 'everything goes'. How's that?

You see...I've had that kind of relationship with my sons. And it took years of nonjudgemental conversations about life. I'm not tooting my horn...I'm just pointing out the HELPFULNESS, not hopelessness.

Everyone here seems to think teens are unreachable and irresponsible. As long as that attitude is held by the parents/adults what the hell do we expect? They don't want to get STDs or anything else...but a little help from mom/dad can go a long way if you hold back the judgements.

(this wasn't directed at you JPZenger)

[dusmcj]

95. does anyone know if this means they're not using barrier protection ?

I can't see how this stuff could spread if everyone were using condoms. Does this mean they're not using any birth control at all, or that they're all on the pill which they and their parents are stupid enough to think is adequate in these times ?

This is insane, and a direct outcome of the admin's abstinence fetish, and the stupid juvenile American society behind it.

[ContraBass Black]

101. Some STD's can spread through skin to skin contact, around the areas

That a male condom covers.

[AlphaCentauri]

119. Education and stop the entertainment industry to promote unhealthy life styles n/t

[pfitz59]

120. Joe, you have "hair piece"?

Huh... what? Define STD? I'm sure some girls may have STD's.. What about boys? What about "fear-mongering"? Scared and lonely people can't organize against the war-profiteers at GE (NBC). "Be afraid... be very afraid!" This is BS!

[JackRiddler]

123. Spin - this statistic is only because of HPV, a common virus...

One that was only recently discovered to be a risk factor for cancer and therefore classified as a disease. It's nothing you want to have, of course. But if they wanted to, they could say 2/3 of everyone has upper body herpes, and call that an STD too.