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Mac128 Donating Member (25 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 10:21 PM
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Bill Clinton: A Clinton-Obama ticket would be 'unstoppable'
Edited on Sun Mar-09-08 12:07 AM by EarlG
Source: CNN

(CNN) Even as Hillary Clinton's campaign attacked her rival, Barack Obama, for failing to "deliver on his promises," her husband, former President Bill Clinton said Saturday that a joint ticket pairing the two would be "almost unstoppable."

The former president referred to his wife's own comments that indicated a willingness to consider the prospect. "She said yesterday and she said the day after her big wins in Texas and Ohio and Rhode Island that she was very open to that and I think she answered explicitly 'Yes' yesterday," said Clinton during a Mississippi campaign appearance.

"I know that she has always been open to it, because she believes that if you can unite the energy and the new people that he's brought in and the people in these vast swaths of small town and rural America that she's carried overwhelmingly, if you had those two things together she thinks it'd be hard to beat."

He added that, in his view, Obama would win the "urban areas and the upscale voters" while Clinton claims "the traditional rural areas that we lost when President Reagan was president. If you put those two things together, you'd have an almost unstoppable force."

Read more: http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/03/08/bill-cl... /



It looks like Bill is getting ready for the inevitable. Especially since it looks like Obama will win this thing if even by the narrowest victory.

Edited by Admin to fix Source; link was messing up homepage formatting.
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pbca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 10:22 PM
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1. Obama has already said No n/t
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skooooo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 10:24 PM
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7. Is Bill stalking Obama??

I mean Obama has already said NO to this. What doesn't Bill understand about the word "no?"

I think it speaks to the desperation of the campaign. On the surface, the Clintons are acting like they still are viable, but they are not. They want to bargain with Obama before they lose any more status with the voters.
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 10:38 PM
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25. Bill, dear - if at all, it is Obama-Clinton, please get it right!
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 10:44 PM
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74. NOT LATE BREAKING NEWS
This is an item on a blog dated 3/8/2008.
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 10:46 PM
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75. NOT LATE BREAKING NEWS
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Missouri Blue Donating Member (84 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 12:35 AM
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50. No matter what Obama might say, it's being considered.

But Obama knows there's going to have to be a lot of negotiating if there's any deal. Obama saw what happened to Al Gore under the Bill Clinton administration. He would have to be assured that won't happen. Also there's the question of: what will they do with Bill who will obviously will come in as the closest adviser, which is likely going to hang Obama out to dry.

It would almost have to be a power-sharing deal: Obama on domestic concerns, Clinton on foreign affairs. Even with that, Obama would have to be on top of the ticket.

Or they might come to some agreement, like HC gets the presidency this year but in 4 years Obama will run.

HC wants this election bad, because in eight more years, she will be 68. That's almost John McCain ancient. This might surely be her last chance to be president.

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frog92969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 03:17 AM
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56. ????????!
:wow:
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Iceburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 10:23 PM
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68. Good -- now she is free to ask Wesley Clark to be her VP/nt
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 10:23 PM
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2. Ya guys are nutz bil...go back and dish
on the rush limpbaugh show and quit your pipe dreamin'
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Kittycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 10:23 PM
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3. Too bad bill. You're going to have to find a way
to pay off your promises some other way.
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Larkspur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 10:23 PM
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4. Hillary will be like John Kerry in 2004
she'll turn off more people than Obama can attract.
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roseBudd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 10:30 AM
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64. It's neither of their faults, people just don't feel them
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 11:31 PM
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78. John Kerry nearly won in 2004 in an environment that was hostile to any Democrat
There is absolutely NO comparison between the high road, decent campaign John Kerry ran and what the Clintons are doing. Get over the fact that Kerry SOUNDLY beat Dean and the others running in 2004. The fact is that he got 9 million more votes than Gore in 2000.

I talked to a swing voter who voted for Bush - she had no problem with Kerry or his wife as people - the problem - as someone who was a teen during WWII, she thought it was wrong to question a war when we were in it - thus "Wrong war, wrong time, wrong place" was not ok. Furthermore, she knew that his constant comment that it was not a "war of last resort" meant that it was not a just war - and she gave him enough credit as a Catholic to know that. She also thought that questioning how the war was run should not be second guessed. Now, how would any Democrat win people like this - and there were many - just in her circle of friends. (She had voted Gore, but 6 months after 911 was saying that it was a good thing that Bush won. She was a classic case of someone who rallied around the President, because to her that's what you do when the country is imperiled.)

Kerry is now an excellent surrogate for Obama - and many people who learned a lot with Kerry in 2004 are with Obama.
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thunder rising Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 10:24 PM
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5. BC said the same thing about Hillary!
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 10:24 PM
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6. Dear Bill
Get screwed.

Your wife has lost, move on.
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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 10:25 PM
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8. dream on, bill n/t
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 10:25 PM
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9. It's polite and generous.
Not what one can expect from the Obama contingent.
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 10:27 PM
Response to Reply #9
20. How is the losing candidate offering 2nd billing to the frontrunner "generous"?
it's laughable...and it's not going to happen.
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judasdisney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 11:15 PM
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44. Losing candidate offering 2nd billing to frontrunner is AUDACITY of JOKE
MercutioATC is correct. What a joke.

Who do the Clintons think they are? Royalty?
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 10:43 PM
Response to Reply #9
28. Maybe in Hillaryland losing is really winning? Which Hillary is she today?
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 10:44 PM
Response to Reply #9
29. It's neither. It's lying to blacks in Mississippi for the black vote. Shameless
and unconscionable, but that's the Monster family for you.
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roseBudd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 10:31 AM
Response to Reply #29
65. Hmm, you are right, timing anyone? Missisippi?
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Cant trust em Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 11:01 PM
Response to Reply #9
35. Not sure that offering the person you are are behind
to play your second fiddle is polite. There's no good reason for Obama to be Hillary's wingman.
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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 11:14 PM
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43. Generous? It is flat out rude
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 10:25 PM
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10. No!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Clinton Obama or Obama Clinton

28 years of a bush or a Clinton on the ticket is enough.

Time to stop dynastic rule. We had something called the
American Revolution in 1776 to put a stop to that crap.
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tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 10:25 PM
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11. Um she really has not carried "vast swaths of small town and rural America"
Face reality klinton you fuckin idiot. She may need Obama but he doesn't need her. Mostly thanks to you and her incompetent campaign team.
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roseBudd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 10:33 AM
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66. Especially since TX & OH had crossover Rs whose nom had already clinched
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dbonds Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 10:25 PM
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12. Lets make a deal you can't refuse.
I know you are beating us now, but we are going to bloody you to death where McCain will walk all over you. You can step out now and still have the VP slot with Hillary or we will see that McCain wins.
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ingac70 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 10:25 PM
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13. Bill and Hill need to find someone elses coattails. n/t
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 10:26 PM
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14. Bwaaahaaahaahaaaa
Even Bill's downgraded his message to include Obama.

The only way Hillary's going to get a piece of this is with Obama's help...

...and she's not going to get it.



Clinton/Obama? Hardly.

...not even Obama/Clinton.
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AlinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 10:26 PM
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15. After she trashes Obama they expect his supporters to go along with that? B.S.
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OhioChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 10:27 PM
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16. Get Real, Bill. n/t
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Me. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 10:27 PM
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17. Looks To Me Like He's Using It As A Ploy To Get Obama People To Vote For Hillary
Edited on Sat Mar-08-08 10:29 PM by Me.
You can go ahead and vote for Hillary, cause she's going to put your candidate on the ticket. It's extremely presumptuous on his part. Sorry to see it, as I used to be a fan. Wonder how HC would like being veep, not that I think Obama would go for it, but why do they presume, the numbers being what they are, that she would be the head of the ticket?
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jordi_fanclub Donating Member (388 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 10:36 PM
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24. She needs to be in the ticket to do the same as Bush...
Keep closed the Clinton & Bush dinasties WH files!

GO OBAMA!!!!
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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 10:27 PM
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18. Bill after the way you, Hillary and her campaign minions
have trashed Obama - why the hell would he want to be the third wheel in her presidency? If she finds some way to steal the nomination, then Obama would be wise to sit back and watch her probably lose to McCain. After 4 years of McCain Obama would look attractive to Dems. And even after 4 years of Clinton he could have a good chance of challenging Clinton in 2012. We may all have grown weary of her by then.
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speedoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 10:27 PM
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19. Right, Bill. Unstoppable for McCain because Hillary is toxic.
Bill, if you are really a Democrat, tell Hillary she's done.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 10:29 PM
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21. I wonder what he says about an Obama-Clinton ticket?
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ingac70 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 10:31 PM
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22. No way the Clintons will allow that. n/t
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thereismore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 10:31 PM
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23. He's delusional. He is not in a position to offer VP spot!! nt
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seafan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 10:40 PM
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26. To Hillary: Why would you want someone you say is **so inexperienced** to be your VP???
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 09:05 PM
Response to Reply #26
73. Please don't blame Tonya for those tears,
she was dodging bullets and it mangled her skates.
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proust78 Donating Member (54 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 10:43 PM
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27. Why not a McCain-Hillary ticket, since isn't Obama prepared to be commander in chief?

Hillary has said only two people in the race are prepared to be commander in chief. Should't she be getting aboard the "straight talk express"?
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 11:11 PM
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40. Let's hear it for the Straight Talk Express!


:eyes:
rocknation
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1monster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 10:51 PM
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30. DAMN! Can't you guys please keep this in GD:P??? Even blocking GD:P
doesn't work when you all start flame wars in Latest Breaking New, Editorials, and Political Campaigns.

:mad: :spank: :grr: :banghead: :rant:
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OhioChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 10:52 PM
Response to Reply #30
32. Why'd you click on the article then?
:hi:
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1monster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 10:57 PM
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33. Because it was supposed to be late breaking news, and should have had
Edited on Sat Mar-08-08 10:58 PM by 1monster
late breaking news in it.

It didn't. This subject has been covered for a couple of days at least now.

It's just more fuel for the incredibly middle schoolish (and detrimental) squabble the pro-Obama/pro-H.Clinton types have been indulging in for far too long.

Keep it in GD :P and I won't click on it because I won't know it's there.
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OhioChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 11:39 PM
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46. LOL...
Gotcha. :)
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 10:52 PM
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31. No. A wannabe-cheat like Clinton doesn't deserve the VP slot.
And she's not going to win the nom, so - bye, Clinton.

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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 10:59 PM
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34. Is the DLC that desparate?
Edited on Sat Mar-08-08 11:02 PM by rocknation
Only THEY would be unstoppable!

:spray:
rocknation
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Cant trust em Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 11:02 PM
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36. This is another way to minimalize Obama
it's just putting out a meme that Obama is second fiddle to Clinton.
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 11:04 PM
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37. Do we need to pass special legislation keeping Bill out of the White House?
I'm beginning to think we do.
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skepticscott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 11:05 PM
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38. If Obama is smart
that will never happen. Hillary will never play second fiddle for another 8 years. I would really hate to be the only person between her and the presidency. Two years and a day into my presidency, I'd start watching my back.
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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 11:09 PM
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39. But she lost Texas
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Ameridem Donating Member (60 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 11:12 PM
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41. I thought a Mc Cain/Clinton ticket was unstoppable
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mth44sc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 11:14 PM
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42. Well now heck
if you all would just hand this one to Hillary - Obama could one day have the same shot Gore got.

Just who the hell are these Clintons anyway?

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Baby Snooks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 11:16 PM
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45. Interesting little slip of the tongue...
"He added that, in his view, Obama would win the "urban areas and the upscale voters" while Clinton claims "the traditional rural areas that we lost when President Reagan was president. If you put those two things together, you'd have an almost unstoppable force.""

What he's really saying is that the more intelligent voters will vote for Barack Obama while the not-so-intelligent voters will vote for Hillary Clinton. And I will leave it at that.

The Clintons are obviously worried - they keep offering the vice-presidency if Barack Obama concedes now. Why should he concede?

Like it or not, Barack Obama can also pull some Republicans who reject the rabidness of their party which John McCain has begun to pander to as well as some Independents. No Republican will vote for Hillary Clinton. Few if any Independents will.

Reality is America has enough of the dynasty.
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mcollier Donating Member (887 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 12:12 AM
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47. Obama Is Unstoppable
Why try now to jump on a fast moving train the Clintons have been trying so hard to stop the Obama train...
The Clintons cannot be trusted...

Obama has a huge amount of suppot and Im confident he will choose a running mate that is trustworthy and represents the type of change in Washington he believes in.... Hillary doesn't represent that change... The are no options for the Clintons... They are the past...



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Forrest Greene Donating Member (946 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 12:13 AM
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48. That Is Just Hilarious
Behaving as if he's doing Obama a favor. What a jerk.


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quiet.american Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 12:17 AM
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49. I understand Bill supporting his wife, but my first reaction was -- Bill must be inhaling now. nt
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Kitsune Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 12:43 AM
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51. Clinton would be an albatross around Obama's neck.
I'm no huge fan of either of the two, but I can tell a candidate that will never in a million years win the presidency when I see one.
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JeanGrey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 12:54 AM
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52. Boy the Clinton's are REALLY getting desperate,
it is comical!! They just won't let go of his knowing it is her only chance. If Obama does he's an idiot. Who would want Hill and Bill breathing down their necks for years?
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Fiendish Thingy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 01:10 AM
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53. This appears to be a Rovian technique to change the narrative to a new "reality"
I forget the exact quote about the "reality based community" vs. crafting a narrative through repetition, which then creates it's own reality...

In this case, narrative a) Clinton is behind, and cannot mathmatically win the nomination from the remaining primaries (unless she gets Mich. & Fla delegates from the unauthorized votes, plus most of the superdelegates) is being changed to:
Narrative b) Obama may not be good enough to be President, but a Clinton/Obama ticket would be unstoppable against McCain.
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 01:11 AM
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54. No thank you Bill. I don't want a Clinton on any ticket. We need a real fresh start. n/t
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hisownpetard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 01:36 AM
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55. So Hillary's gonna spend the next 6-7 wks. trying to devalue Obama's candidacy while bolstering
McCain's, and then she's gonna turn around and say that she and Obama should be BFFs and run together?

Yeah. That'll happen.
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 04:39 AM
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57. Bill is in lala land. What a blithering idiot.
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susankh4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 07:10 AM
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58. Bill is correct!
And we will have a combined ticket.

One way or the other.

These two maps explain why:









Obama and Clinton are both gonna have to get over their own egos, and work together... to unite the party.

End of discussion.

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jordi_fanclub Donating Member (388 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 07:31 AM
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59. WRONG Bill...
What the two maps shows is:

Clinton edges McCain by a mere 14 votes, while Obama tops him by 22!
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susankh4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 08:01 AM
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60. Either way, we win!
And together it's a landslide!!!

(Actually, both maps are too close to call. Cuz alot can change between now and November.)
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jordi_fanclub Donating Member (388 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 08:32 AM
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61. Nothing points to a landslide...
In fact any day added to the race only reduce the potential landslide!
By several factors, including: a)-increase of opposite opinions and b)-dilapidation of resources.
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 12:33 AM
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70. Hillary needs Florida to win and Obama doesn't? No Democratic nominee for President can win Florida.
Florida's election machinery is corrupt to favor corporatist Republicans.
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 10:27 AM
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62. That would be tough now that Hil has declared Obama unfit to be CINC
she already wrote the GOP ads for them.
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roseBudd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 10:29 AM
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63. I find the Clinton arrogance astounding, shouldn't he be referring to an Obama/Zinni ticket
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cliss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 07:37 PM
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67. Sure, you bet (wink wink)

Just like the Power Sharing agreement with Pervez Musharraf and Benazir Bhutto. Looks like one bit the dust on that plan.

So....Bill...
Who gets the throne?
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ckramer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 11:27 PM
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69. Obama must say NO to Hillary
Do not team up with a warmonger.

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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 02:14 AM
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71. Talk about the worst of both worlds
that would be landslide alright....
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Windex Donating Member (56 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 02:30 AM
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72. Woo Hoo...let's hear it for Michelle
Edited on Mon Mar-10-08 02:31 AM by Windex
Hillary:  Excuse me Mr. President but your wife just scratched
out Bills' eyes.

lol


Anyway, it isn't "change" we can believe in.
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and-justice-for-all Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 10:47 PM
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76. Im ok with BO/HRC ticket.....
ANYTHING BUT ANOTHER FUCKING RETHUG ADMINISTRATION!!!!
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DuaneBidoux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 11:25 PM
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77. I think an Obama/Clinton ticket would be even MORE unstoppable.
Considering he is ahead in every way that matters and there is little hope she can win.
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