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brooklynite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 08:18 PM
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MSNBC Projects Obama to win Wisconsin
Source: MSNBC

Just reported on MSNBC

Read more: www.msnbc.com
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brooklynite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 08:19 PM
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1. Also called by CNN and Fox
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 08:22 PM
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2. Doesn't Matter
Just wait to see what the Clintons do with "Obama's" delegates.
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 08:26 PM
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3. Well done Cheeseheads
My respect for you, however, ends on the football field.
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 08:26 PM
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4. Soon we will learn why this victory doesn't count either.
Congratulations to a well deserved victory by the Obama team.
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L0oniX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 08:49 PM
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10. Another insignificant state ...that makes 9 of them ....hrmmmm
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George II Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 09:07 PM
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15. 10, but who's counting?
10 "insignificant" states make up about 2-3 "significant" states. I've been on the fence for a couple of weeks, but tonight I see that Obama has grassroots, populist support all over the country. I want him to win so John McCain can be defeated.

I've been sticking up for Clinton AND Obama against some of the vilest attacks here - no Democrat should be subjected to that, but Obama has demonstrated that he can unite the REAL people in this country, poor and middle classes, and we can do great things for America under his Presidency and a Democratic majority in both houses of Congress.

Obama and a filibuster-proof Democratic majority in the Senate. And let Lieberman finally admit the truth - he's a Republican.

Now it's on to Texas and Ohio and then the convention (hope that's not a jinx, I remember the last time I heard a statement like that......)
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George II Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 09:08 PM
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17. well, you could watch the late-night reruns
She might even go on an encore crying jag! I'd say a winning candidate speaking means more to most of us than a loser whining.
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PittPoliSci Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 01:21 AM
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52. i doubt the people that live there think they're insignificant.
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L0oniX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 09:21 AM
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55. Of course they aren't. It's Hillary that thinks some states are insignificant.
Edited on Wed Feb-20-08 09:21 AM by L0oniX
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George II Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 09:51 AM
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57. Look where that attitude got Rudy Giulliani
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Purveyor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 08:27 PM
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5. Off the AP Wire: Obama Wins Wisconsin, 9th Straight
(02-19) 18:24 PST WASHINGTON, (AP) --

Barack Obama has won the Wisconsin primary, his ninth straight triumph over a fading Hillary Rodham Clinton in their epic struggle for the Democratic presidential nomination.

The Associated Press made its call Tuesday night based on surveys of voters as they left the polls.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2008/0...
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Alexander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 08:27 PM
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6. C-Span called it too.
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justinboston2008 Donating Member (34 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 08:39 PM
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7. What a dick... Barges into Clinton's speach
Unbelievable.
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Lautremont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 08:40 PM
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8. What? Was he drunk?
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 08:55 PM
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11. He bushed all over her shoes too.
That man has no class.
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Pastiche423 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 09:04 PM
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14. Would you please explain what you mean?
I don't understand.
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 09:07 PM
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16. Busharoo: bad sushi bush.
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Pastiche423 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 09:11 PM
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20. Who did the bushing?
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 09:15 PM
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23. Humor explained is humor negated.
What? Was he drunk? - a snark up thread reflecting the idiocy of 'he barged into hillary's speech'.
And he bushed on her shoes - my continuation of this bit of humor.

Now there is nothing funny at all about this subthread. All of the funny has been sucked out of it. This thread is now where humor came to die.
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9119495 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 09:33 PM
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28. Well, once explained, I found your comment delightful...
please don't deny us your humor.

(Sometimes the joke is funny BECAUSE of the explanation).
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sarcasmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 10:36 AM
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58. Bush, Clinton, Bush, the Insanity must end. No more Monarchy.
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Pastiche423 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 01:52 PM
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59. Boy howdy, do I agree w/that!
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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 12:20 AM
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48. Ok, I was eating cereal and nearly spit it all over the place because of that.
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George II Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 09:09 PM
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18. well, you could watch the late-night reruns (take 2)
She might even go on an encore crying jag! I'd say a winning candidate speaking means more to most of us than a loser whining.
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GrimReefa Donating Member (161 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 09:14 PM
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21. She was just plagarizing John McCain's talking points anyway... eom
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subsuelo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 09:18 PM
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24. lol
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 10:13 PM
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34. SNAP.
Nicely done.

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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 11:57 PM
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44. hilary's the dick ..she planed her speech
10 minutes before Obama's Victory speech in Texas. hilary never concedes to Obama..it was just one of her many stump's..Karma's a Bitch.
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L0oniX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 08:46 PM
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9. WOOT
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 09:02 PM
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Chipster Donating Member (139 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 09:03 PM
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13. How Can They Declare the Winner Without Votes Reported?
Here in WI the polls closed at 8 PM CST and MSNBC already declared Obama the winner by 8:30 PM CST. At that time, The Milwaukee Sentinel was not reporting any votes counted.

O, maybe that's it - votes don't count.
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George II Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 09:11 PM
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19. No, newspapers are notoriously slow in reporting election returns
Last year when I was re-elected we knew all the vote tallies about 20 minutes after the polls closed. The newspaper didn't even have 60% of the vote totals the next morning.
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Chipster Donating Member (139 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 09:21 PM
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25. Newspapers may be slow, but...
Newspapers may be slow, but I don't know how the winner can be declared with no percentage of the vote counted, or 3%, as it was tonight. Exit polling doesn't work - just ask Bush. No, this is suspicious.
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George II Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 09:29 PM
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27. Only 3% were shown to be counted. As I said, most precincts have all their votes tallied....
within 20 minutes of the polls closing.

When you saw only 3% being counted, chances are more than half had already been counted and given to the electronic media.

Good try though!
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Chipster Donating Member (139 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 09:35 PM
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29. Only 8% of Milwaukee counted at 9:30 PM CST
OIC, you're offering anecdotes and suggesting it's fact. Not a very good try.

Especially since only 8% of Milwaukee was counted at 9:30 PM CST.
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George II Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 11:37 PM
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43. Ok - no anecdote here, fact! OBAMA WON!
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muryan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 09:54 PM
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32. yes, theres obviously foul play afoot
I have an idea, you investigate and get back to us when you find something out mmk?
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Chipster Donating Member (139 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 10:00 PM
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33. I sure hope that's not your best idea, muryan.
Why don't you investigate? O, because you'd rather not raise obvious questions. Just accept what you're told.

And be sure to get back with us...
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Earth_First Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 09:14 PM
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22. WOOT! n.t
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Politicalboi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 09:28 PM
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26. I guess they'll have to edit this video
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From The Left Donating Member (670 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 09:44 PM
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30. Time for Hillary to Write Her Concession Speech
Her campaign is through. It's back to Washington and doing the dirty work of the lobbyists for her.
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 09:53 PM
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31. She should get Bob Shrum to write it
Lord knows he has the experience at writing concession speeches.
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 11:07 PM
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35.  Obama wins Wis. for 9th straight triumph
Source: Yahoo News

WASHINGTON - Barack Obama cruised past a fading Hillary Rodham Clinton in the Wisconsin primary Tuesday night, gaining the upper hand in a Democratic presidential race for the ages. It was Obama's ninth straight victory over the past three weeks, and left the former first lady in desperate need of a comeback in a race she long commanded as front-runner.
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"The change we seek is still months and miles away," Obama told a boisterous crowd in Houston.

He cut deeply into Clinton's political bedrock in Wisconsin, splitting the support of white women in Wisconsin almost evenly with the former first lady and running well among working class voters in the blue collar battleground, according to polling place interviews.

With the votes counted in nearly one-quarter of the state's precincts, Obama was winning 56 percent of the vote, to 43 percent for Clinton.

Read more: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/campaign_rdp
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keep_it_real Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 11:07 PM
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36. Go ! America Go!
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Matteon Donating Member (154 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 11:07 PM
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41. As of now...
Obama is up 58% to 41% with 81% reporting. It's just an absolute drubbing. Again.
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dogfacedboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 11:07 PM
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37. Wisconsin is a very Progressive state.
Hillary is not very Progressive when compared to Barack.
Sen. Clinton is Republican lite, in my never-humble-opinion.
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 11:07 PM
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38. "a fading Hillary Rodham Clinton" -- man, those are nice words to hear.
And I'm not even an Obama guy!

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unkachuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 11:07 PM
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39. hip, hip, hooray! Obama's here to stay!....
....9 in a row!!....what's the matter clinton supporters, are you feeling a little down?....

....that's ok, it won't be much longer, and your pain will be over....
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Don Davis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 11:07 PM
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40. Here's the True Writing on the Wall
It's the 'Exit Polls at Home' That Really Show Obama's Strength
http://satiricalpolitical.com/?p=1502
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SoDesuKa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 11:07 PM
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42. Maginot Line
Hillary was afraid the right would attack her if she voted against the IWR. At the time, there was nobody to the left of her to challenge her for the nomination. Her voted for the war was entirely strategic.

Now that the votes are piling up against her, she can't turn her defenses around. The Maginot Line did the French no good in 1939, and Hillary's cowardly vote for war can't be undone. If she'd voted her conscience, she might have the nomination already locked up. The irony is rich.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 11:59 PM
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46. It's Irony all right..and it's
Bloody. :(
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 11:58 PM
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45. And Obama ended up winning by
17%!!
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Jeffro40 Donating Member (68 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 12:16 AM
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47. Obama can't win - I'm a reluctant Hillary supporter now - here's why
Obama is a wonderful speaker - he says all the right things, fills me with hope for the future. And that's exactly why we're going to lose if he is the nominee.

The Republicans don't do hope, joy, or togetherness. They do one thing - win elections. If you think they feminized and destroyed Kerry, wait till you see what they do to Obama. They'll be ruthless, they'll be nasty, they'll be mean, and they will win.

Hillary is already hated by them, and they've blown their wad on her already. She can and will fight to win. And in the end, she'll beat McCain, and she'll give them black eyes in the process.

Yes, I love Obama, but Hillary must be the nominee.
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 12:22 AM
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49. The Democrats will vote for Obama when he's on the ticket.
We'll win by sheer numbers. The republicans will stay home.
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MUAD_DIB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 12:47 AM
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50. What's the Dem vs Repub turnout been? 2-1?

I can't seriously believe that the Repubs are so organized that they are voting for Obama in droves to skew the primaries.

2-1 in our favor. Record numbers of voters turning out.


We win...
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Born Free Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 03:14 AM
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53. They count the votes....
I some times get this eery feeling it doesn't matter any more....they have had 8 years to fine tune the system to their benifit.
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Matteon Donating Member (154 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 01:18 AM
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51. The Republicans success
in attacking Kerry was as much about his inability to handle it as their ability to dish it out. also, think about John Kerry during the primaries. He never even got close to generating the type of movement Obama has started. Also, the people were not as upset with the repugs 4 years ago compared to now.

Comparing Kerry and Obama makes no sense.
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L0oniX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 09:26 AM
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56. But but ...it's good to have hopes and dreams and goals.
:sarcasm:
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LeftHander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 06:00 AM
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54. 58% to 41% - pretty handy victory for Obama in Wisconsin!
I voted Obama.
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