AP Confirms Secret Camp Inside Gitmo

[Eugene]

Source: Associated Press

AP Confirms Secret Camp Inside Gitmo

Wednesday February 6, 2008 10:01 PM

By ANDREW O. SELSKY

Associated Press Writer

GUANTANAMO BAY NAVAL BASE, Cuba (AP) - Somewhere
amid the cactus-studded hills on this sprawling Navy base,
separate from the cells where hundreds of men suspected of
links to al-Qaida and the Taliban have been locked up for
years, is a place even more closely guarded - a jailhouse
so protected that its very location is top secret.

For the first time, the top commander of detention operations
at Guantanamo has confirmed the existence of the mysterious
Camp 7. In an interview with The Associated Press, Rear Adm.
Mark Buzby also provided a few details about the maximum-
security lockup.

Guantanamo commanders said Camp 7 is for key alleged
al-Qaida members, who must be kept apart from other
prisoners to prevent them from retaliating against long-
term detainees who have talked to interrogators. They also
want the location kept secret for fear of terrorist attack.

-snip-

Camp 7, where 15 “high-value detainees” are held, is so
secret that its very existence was not publicly known until
it was mentioned in December by attorneys for Majid Khan, a
former Baltimore resident who allegedly plotted to bomb gas
stations in the United States. Previously, many observers
believed the 15 were being held in Camps 5 or 6, which are
maximum-security facilities.

-snip-

Read more: http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlatest/story/0,,-7288144...

[Solly Mack]

1. ...

...

never stops

[Newsjock]

2. The only moral option at this point ...

... is for the world's leaders to appear before the United Nations and demand swift and crippling sanctions -- including an immediate and total cutoff of oil -- against the United States for its repeated violations of international law.

And if the U.S. will not allow U.N. inspectors to inspect this secret facility, then there is no other option but for a multinational force to seize control of the White House and capture the chief executive and vice president for trial at The Hague.

[DeSwiss]

3. Yep.

What Newsjock said...

K&R!!!

[cstanleytech]

5. You would get few countries

I am willing to bet to do that for many reasons among them being that they probably do similar stuff, look at china for example.

[Divine Discontent]

6. the whole situation is detestable

this country is so far away from its roots

[RedSock]

8. "this country is so far away from its roots"

slavery?
genocide of the native people?
not allowing women to vote?
jim crow?
union busting?
committing assissinations and disrupting democracy around the globe?
lying to start foreign wars for profit?
invading other countries and stealing their resources?

...

[Divine Discontent]

10. touche

but not my point entirely. there are always the forces of oppression and hatred at work in any free nation, but what the founding fathers wrote out was a very strong argument for civil rights for all.

[yardwork]

28. Sadly, you're right. Most of us aren't taught much 19th century U.S. history.

If most U.S. citizens knew the history of our country's behavior in the 19th century they would be appalled. How did we get so big so fast? Stole half the country from Mexico, for starters.

[RedSock]

7. I like the way you think! -- eom

[frog92969]

12. Wish I could K&R your response.

Or give it 5 stars or something.

[MADem]

14. Well, that's dramatic, but it will never happen.

Even if your best customer farts like crazy in your store, breathes bad breath in your face, and has dogshit on his shoe that he tracks across your best carpets, if he's buying from you, hand over fist, you hold your nose, take his money, and scrape the dogshit up off the carpet when he leaves.

Business is business.

[TomInTib]

19. Yep

Oh, well, I suppose a bit of fantasy is self-heartening at times.

[Dark]

21. Dooming millions of people to death and crashing the global economy.

Yea, that would work.

[pattmarty]

4. Hey, we can send Bush & Cheney to "Camp 7" when they leave office.

[killbotfactory]

9. So how much "actionable intelligence" can they torture out of people

who have been locked up for the past five years?

[Lisa]

11. concentration camps inside other concentration camps?

Wow. I am reminded of the wisecrack someone here at DU made a while back, about Starbuck's getting so desperate that they were going to start opening new facilities inside existing Starbuck's stores.

[villager]

13. "arbeit macht frei"

n/t

[MADem]

16. There's no 'arbeit' happening at these facilities.

It's more like "Sitting on Your Ass In Solitary Makes You Older Day By Day."

The subtext is "Waterboardings Free of Charge."

The subtext to that is "You Ain't Ever Leaving If BushCo Can Help It."

And the subtext to that is "If You DO Leave, It'll Be To A Country LESS FRIENDLY Than We Are."

[ConcernedCanuk]

15. And the USA wants to turn Alcatraz into a "Beacon of Peace"

.
.
.

Who do you think they are going to fool except that foolish percentage of the American population that kept the BFEE in power for almost a decade?

Just move Gitmo to the Bay - and give the Cubans their land back . .

And see how long the Californians would put up with that plague of hypocrisy and inhumanity in their face.

[MADem]

17. A small group of people wanted the city of SF to buy Alcatraz from the Feds.

It isn't the "USA" that has that idea. They put the idea on the ballot, and the voters rejected it.

http://www.mercurynews.com/news/ci_8181075

Alcatraz is a nice little tourist attraction nowadays. People who visit it also spend money in SF. Lots of history, and a look at a byegone style of incarceration.

SAN FRANCISCO—Alcatraz escaped plans for change, with voters rejecting a proposal that would have torn down the island's notorious prison to erect a global peace center.
With 100 percent of precincts reporting, about 72 percent of San Francisco voters opposed the measure, while 28 percent supported it.

The measure, Proposition C, was not legally binding. It called for supporting the idea of transferring Alcatraz from federal to city hands, razing most of its notorious prison and building a global peace center.

By converting the island, "a place of pain and suffering," into a "JEWEL OF LIGHT," said a Web site promoting the center, "We will activate Powerful Forces for Cooperation, Reconciliation & Healing."

Supporters said the center would be a more uplifting symbol for the region. But opponents said Alcatraz is a major tourist attraction and important historic landmark that needs to stay as it is.

Alcatraz gets about 1.4 million visitors a year, most of them drawn by the old federal penitentiary. It also is the site of a civil war fortress, a military prison and is known for a 19-month American Indian occupation in 1969-71 that is considered a key moment in American Indian activism.

Opponents noted it would take an act of Congress to put the island under city control. They also pointed out the estimated $1 billion conversion cost.

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[L. Coyote]

18. Someday Cuba will have a tourism destination and human rights museum

One more thing for America's To Do list. Clean up after Spanish America War, give Cuban land back to island's people.

What part of Bush's War on Iraq will still need cleaning up 100 years from now?

[IndianaGreen]

20. Auschwitz was also a state secret

It is only a matter of time before Bush's concentrating camps become extermination camps, and it won't just be Al-Qaeda people being disposed off, but those opposed to the American tyrant.

[AlienGirl]

22. Stay classy, humanity! As I said in another thread:

Anytime you have a situation where a group of humans have absolute power over a number of others, and are not held accountable for their behavior, the group of humans in power will torture the group they control.

The only way to change this is accountability to outside entities, because human nature is not going to change. You have to change the systewm around the humans to make the behavior of the humans change.

Tucker

[formercia]

23. US admiral confirms secret camp at Gitmo

Source: AP


US admiral confirms secret camp at Gitmo

By ANDREW O. SELSKY, Associated Press Writer 13 minutes ago

GUANTANAMO BAY NAVAL BASE, Cuba - Somewhere amid the cactus-studded hills on this sprawling Navy base, separate from the cells where hundreds of men suspected of links to al-Qaida and the Taliban have been locked up for years, is a place even more closely guarded — a jailhouse so protected that its very location is top secret.
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For the first time, the top commander of detention operations at Guantanamo has confirmed the existence of the mysterious Camp 7. In an interview with The Associated Press, Rear Adm. Mark Buzby also provided a few details about the maximum-security lockup.

Guantanamo commanders said Camp 7 is for key alleged al-Qaida members, who must be kept apart from other prisoners to prevent them from retaliating against long-term detainees who have talked to interrogators. They also want the location kept secret for fear of terrorist attack.

Read more: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080207/ap_on_re_la_am_ca/g... ;_ylt=Ak4GoWgvyVaiAAWpsMlyUC_9xg8F

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[hobbit709]

24. Like the "terrorists" would be able to get into Gitmo

much less hit the "secret" camp. Anybody that believes that line, you could sell them a bridge.

[Demeter]

25. It's To Keep Out the Red Cross, Reporters and Whistleblowers

Evidently, it didn't work any more....

[Haole Girl]

26. That is very scary

I don't want to even imagine what must go on there.

[icnorth]

27. Aw shucks...

you mustn't even imagine those thoughts KC; camp 7 is only used as the entertainment center for high profile guests dontcha know?

[LynnTheDem]

29. America.

SHAME.