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Satyagrahi Donating Member (254 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 05:58 AM
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For sale: West’s deadly nuclear secrets
Source: The Sunday Times

Edmonds described how foreign intelligence agents had enlisted the support of US officials to acquire a network of moles in sensitive military and nuclear institutions.

Among the hours of covert tape recordings, she says she heard evidence that one well-known senior official in the US State Department was being paid by Turkish agents in Washington who were selling the information on to black market buyers, including Pakistan.

***

She claims that the FBI was also gathering evidence against senior Pentagon officials – including household names – who were aiding foreign agents.

“If you made public all the information that the FBI have on this case, you will see very high-level people going through criminal trials,” she said.

Read more: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east...
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dipsydoodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 06:02 AM
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1. Go Sibel
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PuraVidaDreamin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 06:40 AM
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2. what courage
She has to know this places her in grave danger.
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JohnyCanuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 06:45 AM
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3. "....several arms of the government were shielding what was going on.”
"What I found was damning,” she said. “While the FBI was investigating, several arms of the government were shielding what was going on.”

The Turks and Israelis had planted “moles” in military and academic institutions which handled nuclear technology. Edmonds says there were several transactions of nuclear material every month, with the Pakistanis being among the eventual buyers. “The network appeared to be obtaining information from every nuclear agency in the United States,” she said.

They were helped, she says, by the high-ranking State Department official who provided some of their moles – mainly PhD students – with security clearance to work in sensitive nuclear research facilities. These included the Los Alamos nuclear laboratory in New Mexico, which is responsible for the security of the US nuclear deterrent.

In one conversation Edmonds heard the official arranging to pick up a $15,000 cash bribe. The package was to be dropped off at an agreed location by someone in the Turkish diplomatic community who was working for the network.
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carincross Donating Member (145 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 06:47 AM
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4. Sibel Speaks
Finally we begin to learn how the US aided Pakistan and the A Q Khan network by working through Turkey. Even Larry Franklin was a player. Thanks Sibel for your courage and commitment.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 06:50 AM
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5. And with Valerie Plame conveniently out of the way... n/t
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dipsydoodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 07:31 AM
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6. Kick
:kick:
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BradBlog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 08:01 AM
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7. SIBEL EDMONDS SPEAKS
Source: BRAD BLOG, Sunday Times



SIBEL EDMONDS SPEAKS TO UK SUNDAY TIMES: SAYS U.S. OFFICIALS INVOLVED IN RELEASE OF NUKE SECRETS TO TURKEY, PAKISTAN, IRAN, OTHERS, POSSIBLY EVEN AL-QAEDA
Former 'Gagged' FBI Whistleblower Alleges Pentagon, State Department Officials Overheard Receiving Payoffs in Exchange for Classified Info; Crimes Covered Up at Highest Levels of Government

U.S. Media Scooped Again, Failed to Air Claims After Offer of Disclosure by Edmonds in Recent BRAD BLOG Exclusives...

-- By Brad Friedman

Sibel Edmonds, the former FBI translator who has been under a Bush administration gag order for the past 5 years, has now begun to disclose some of the classified information she has been prohibited from revealing.

"A WHISTLEBLOWER has made a series of extraordinary claims about how corrupt government officials allowed Pakistan and other states to steal nuclear weapons secrets," reports Great Britain's Sunday Times in the lede of their front page exclusive, headlined "For sale: West’s deadly nuclear secrets."

In the article, just filed tonight, Edmonds reveals details overheard on wiretaps she translated during her time at the FBI, just after 9/11. Her disclosures to the Times reveal a maze of nuclear black market espionage involving U.S. Defense and State Department officials, that resulted in the sale and propagation of nuclear secrets to Turkish and Israeli interests. In turn, that information was then sold to Pakistan and used by A.Q. Kahn for development of nuclear weapons. The secrets were subsequently proliferated to Iran, Libya, North Korea, and potentially al-Qaeda's Osama bin Laden, just weeks prior to September 11th, 2001.

The explosive allegations, shared with the Sunday Times over the last several weeks, follows on the heels of two reports published late last year by The BRAD BLOG, based on our own exclusive interviews with Edmonds, and underscores, yet again, the failure of the U.S. mainstream media to adequately report on issues of extraordinary importance to American national security...



FULL STORY, DETAILS: http://www.bradblog.com/?p=5518


Read more: http://www.bradblog.com/?p=5518
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 08:01 AM
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8. Great news!
Edited on Sun Jan-06-08 07:11 AM by Roland99
But uh...Can't get to Bradblog at the moment to read the full article.

ah...there it goes.


BTW, full Times article here:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east...
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nebenaube Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 08:01 AM
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9. interesting...
the database at the link is dead...
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 08:01 AM
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10. Working for me now.
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laylah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 08:01 AM
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11. Go Sibel!
Thank you for this, Brad. I am sending your link far and wide. Maybe the media whores here in the US will finally get off their duffs.
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 08:01 AM
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12. And ya know what? This is yet MORE proof we need to break ties with AIPAC and the rest of those scum
Edited on Sun Jan-06-08 07:28 AM by Roland99
And who has close ties to AIPAC?

Hillary Clinton.
http://clinton.senate.gov/news/statements/details.cfm?i...


Barack Obama spoke before AIPAC in March 2007 and said:
http://blogs.suntimes.com/sweet/2007/03/obamas_aipac_sp...
At the same time, we must preserve our total commitment to
our unique defense relationship with Israel by fully funding military
assistance and continuing work on the Arrow and related missile defense
programs. This would help Israel maintain its military edge and deter and
repel attacks from as far as Tehran and as close as Gaza.



John Edwards spoke at the 7th Annual Herzliya Conference re: AIPAC policy:
http://www.herzliyaconference.org/Eng/_Articles/Article...
While Iran is the greatest threat now, but just as alarming is the one on your doorstep. Hamas, with Iranian support, doesn’t make any mistake of its intentions to wipe out Israel, and repeatedly makes calls to raise the banner of Allah over all of Israel. Israel made many concessions. Many settlers gave up there land in order to advance peace.

Israel can take more steps to advance peace like bolstering Abbas against Hamas. While Israel is willing to go back to negotiating table, little has been seen on the Palestinian side. We instead have seen chaos and violence on the street, and no revocation of violence against Israel.

Outside assistance to Palestinian governance is not an entitlement. The US and Europe need to ensure that money going to the Palestinians does not go to lining the pockets of terrorists. For peace, Israel needs a partner.

Absent this partnership, Israel not only has the right to defend itself, it has an obligation to defend itself. This means continuing to ensure Israel’s military strength, diplomatically and economically. The hurdles are clear.

For too long, the current US administration’s commitment to this issue has been halfhearted. Now, on the backdrop of Iraq, they have tried to bring the two sides together. This is especially significant since they have squandered America’s moral authority in the Middle East and around the world.

We should be finding ways to upgrade Israel’s relationship with NATO. This could even some day mean membership. NATO’s mission now goes far beyond just Europe. Therefore, it is only natural that NATO seeks to include Israel.





I weep for this nation.

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Pavulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 10:17 AM
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19. I was hesitant to add this but your comment..
points out the need. It is not about the Jews that run the country../sarc

This story has other layers. There were numerous operations during the cold war where information leaked with the sole purpose of consumption and use by the enemy.

This story is, imho, FAR more complex, and for more involved than what is being released. A brief look at the consumers of that information and what has transpired over the last 4 years can lead you to form your own opinion. I have mine.

Janes has vast information on this topic and is free to read at your library.
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 10:35 AM
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22. I didn't mean to imply anything specificially about "the Jews that run the country"
Far from it.

And, to me, AIPAC isn't even about Jews. It's about an Israeli equivalent to our neocons...the AEI and WINEP type groups that control policy, essentially. The batshit insane ideologues that WANT eternal war and WANT to divert massive amounts of taxpayer dollars to bigger and more powerful penises...er...weaponry.

AIPAC, WINEP, ATC, ABC, XYZ... I don't care if they're Jewish, Hindu, Christian, or Druids. They are INSANE and they are leading this nation and this world down a path that is completely untenable.

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Pavulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 10:40 AM
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23. Israel
like Egypt, Jordan, Saudi, etc..Buys weapon systems from the US. AIPAC is directly related to Israel. They advocate Israeli position.

The US sells weapons to allies, and will continue to do so under all administrations.
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 10:44 AM
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24. Well, last I knew, Jordan and Egypt weren't planning pre-emptive attacks against anyone.
And, just because it's been done in the past, doesn't mean it needs to be done in the future.

Why does military capability have to be so primary to our nation's exports?

Do you not see the problems inherent in that?

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Pavulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 10:51 AM
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25. NATO nations and Other Allies
consume a product we manufacture. The French and Germans also export military systems. As do the British. Most 1st world nations do. All nations plan strikes. I am sure there is some plan in the pentagon basement to invade mexico or iceland.

Actually doing it is another thing.

Israel will not strike Iran without notice to the US. Like Kahn, this situation is far more complex than what is in the media.

The majority of our exports are non military. The makeup is varied from telecom gear to industrial equipment of all types.
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 11:32 AM
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27. Well, you keep thinking that everything is hunky dory thru those rose-colored glasses
I, for one, would prefer severing the lifeblood to the military industrial complex.
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Pavulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 11:56 AM
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28. How?
They employ hundreds of thousands and serve a purpose.

What is you vision of the US with no military capability?
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badgervan Donating Member (745 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 04:56 PM
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35. You Sound...
... like you know what you're talking about. Do you believe that AIPAC speaks for the majority of the citizens of Israel; represents their positions?
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 07:03 PM
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38. Makes Ya Wonder WHo He is Trying to Defend
As far as I can see, these posts originate from another post up thread regarding AIPAC.
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 05:10 PM
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36. Yeah, that's exactly it. I want NO military at all.
:eyes:

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motocicleta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 01:26 AM
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41. Actually, it's not a bad idea.
Maintain a domestic police force, including counterterrorism, and then let the policing of the world function slip away. Keep the Coast Guard, ditch the Marines. Then we can wag our fingers instead of getting nuked when China reels in Taiwan.

What's the harm in that?
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AntiFascist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 03:47 PM
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34. Here's a more profound question...

was the US support for the creation of the state of Israel really about the Jews? Politically, yes, but strategically?
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SalmonChantedEvening Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 08:01 AM
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13. Speaking Bravely! Go Sibel!
K&R for the truth.
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 07:05 PM
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39. Absolutely Amazing.... I Wish She'd Name ALL THE NAMES!
Those names are of traitors to our country.
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 08:07 AM
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14. This Is Worse Than I Thought
and how foolish of them to think they could get away with it. Too many people knew too much. It was bound to leak, even without Sibel. But with her, they can prosecute!
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truth2power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 08:58 AM
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15. You guys must not know what's really important. While you're discussing this
George Stephanopolous, Cokie, Sam and the gang are providing us with another really important analysis of last night's debates. I mean, get with the program! :sarcasm:

This story should be on every media outlet in this country. What this tells me is that IF the traitors Sibel speaks of are ever brought to justice, there are certain members of the American media who should stand in the dock and be tried along with them.

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panzerfaust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 09:03 AM
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16. It will go nowhere
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drm604 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 09:13 AM
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17. Los Alamos security breaches
They were helped, she says, by the high-ranking State Department official who provided some of their moles – mainly PhD students – with security clearance to work in sensitive nuclear research facilities. These included the Los Alamos nuclear laboratory in New Mexico, which is responsible for the security of the US nuclear deterrent.

Anyone remember the stories about Los Alamos security breaches?

http://www.google.de/search?hl=en&channel=s&rls=org.moz...


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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 10:20 AM
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20. thats what the HIB Visa is all about the stealing of our technology
and it should be CLOSED

these people in office are not Americans
they are TRAITORS

selling their souls for money

so Turkey is invading Iraq and Pakistan has nukes

I'm betting on Rumsfeld as one of them and Cheney
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Stalwart Donating Member (180 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 10:03 AM
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18. Grossman, Jennings, Edelman
Edited on Sun Jan-06-08 10:27 AM by Stalwart
Much of this in December 2005 is mentioned by the Times On Line story:

http://wotisitgood4.blogspot.com/2005/12/sibel-edmonds-...

Which of the candidates will demand a full investigation?

This is big news. However, a Google news search shows (and will continue to show) how it is being treated. It has been 17 hours since the Times story came out. So far only two related entries sorted by date. One by Ha'aretz, Israel and the other by Brad blog.

http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&tab=wn&ned=us&q=sibel...

Google again at the end of day.


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Occulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 01:16 PM
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30. as of this writing:
"Results 1 - 10 of about 12 for sibel edmonds. (0.09 seconds) "
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ohio2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 10:30 AM
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21. with the economy tanked.... everything is for sale
why should laid off nuclear workers be exempt from making a supplemental income?

/sarc.
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MilesColtrane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 11:04 AM
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26. If the Times has verified Sibel's story, as they say they have,...
...why aren't they publishing the name of the traitorous, former State Department official?

The only reason I can think of is that she didn't want them to name that person.

Now, to figure out why.


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BradBlog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 01:12 PM
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29. We printed the name of the UNNAMED OFFICIAL in our coverage...
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 01:36 PM
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31. That freak gives me the damn creeps.
Edited on Sun Jan-06-08 01:40 PM by lonestarnot
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MilesColtrane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 03:09 PM
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33. Did Edmonds tell Luke Ryland this directly?
Edited on Sun Jan-06-08 03:11 PM by MilesColtrane
When Ryland writes this:

http://wotisitgood4.blogspot.com/2007/05/who-wants-to-g...

"Former Deputy Secretary of State, Marc Grossman, apparently was a key player in the criminal enterprise. When he left State in 2005, he immediately began earning the big bucks - more than $2 million p.a. Sibel argues that this payoff was for selling his soul, and selling out the national interest while he was in office."

...it makes it sound like she explicitly states that Grossman was taking bribes while in the State Dept.

Yet, she doesn't do that. She cites his relationships with Turkish lobbyists, and the fact that he got a job at the Cohen Group after he left State, then merely leaves us with the questions:

http://nswbc.org/Op%20Ed/Part2-FNL-Nov29-06.htm


"Did Grossman beat the odds and get lucky as soon as he got out of the State Department? Did he hit the jackpot? Or, did he diligently and industriously work at it, while in his position as the ambassador to Turkey and as Deputy Secretary of State? Did he sell his soul while under his oath of office? Did he sell our government’s soul? Did he sell our nation and its interests? If so; for what and how much?"

Sounds like she doesn't really know for sure that Grossman took bribes. Why else would she only IMPLY that he was dirty instead of coming right out and saying it?

Then there's the possibility that she definitively knows, but won't publish the name herself, or allow the Times to publish it.

Which leads me back to my original question. Why?


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sattahipdeep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 02:29 PM
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32. Global Fusion Center
Who are the real architects of the 911 attacks.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/20...

The company won't reveal its financial information, the names of its customers
or other details of its business.
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 11:21 PM
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40. You're getting awfully damn warm
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sattahipdeep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 12:09 PM
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42. Crowd control?
It lead to her being able to see how evidence of an impending attack on
the United States, specifically on a large office complex in the US would
be attacked by airplanes was being ignored and the evidence of that being covered up.

http://www.opednews.com/articles/opedne_ladybroa_080106...


http://www.justacitizen.com/images/Gallery%20Draft2%20f...
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sattahipdeep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 10:00 AM
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43. Spill the beans
Edmonds added that when after 9/11 foreign operatives were taken in for
questioning, the State Department official said "We need to get them out
of the US because we can't afford for them to spill the beans."

The four suspects on the list were released from interrogation and
extradited from the country immediately afterwards.

http://www.presstv.ir/Detail.aspx?id=37810§ionid=35...
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upi402 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 05:25 PM
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37. Holy Shiite!!! n/t k/r
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