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Ohio Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 11:45 AM
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School-paddling ban sought
Source: The Columbus Dispatch

Few schools in Ohio still rely on a paddle to deal with misbehaving students.

Nonetheless, two state representatives introduced legislation yesterday to outlaw corporal punishment in schools, arguing that it's time for Ohio to join 29 other states with similar bans.

"This legislation is a no-brainer," said Rep. Brian G. Williams, an Akron Democrat and former superintendent of the city school district.

"There are alternative ways of discipline. Send a child to a counselor, in-school suspension and e-schools."



Read more: http://dispatch.com/live/content/local_news/stories/200...



I'm wicked shocked to find out this is still allowed in this state. Even more shocked to find out it's only banned in 29 states.
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Mojorabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 11:51 AM
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1. When I was in school
a gazillion years ago, it was a badge of coolness if you were paddled. Go figure.
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sharp_stick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 12:09 PM
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5. Ages ago
our principal used a canvas strap made from the pickup reel of a combine on your hands. Even back in the 70s I can only recall it being used rarely.

In grade school though we did have a few teachers that weren't shy about giving you a few slaps across the butt when you pissed them off. I remember my mother telling me that if she ever found out one of my teachers had to spank me, I'd get it again at home. I believed her and took the threat seriously because in a rural environment we all knew each other.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 11:55 AM
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2. Wow, my state banned that in 1963
I'm shocked that it's still allowed anywhere in the USA.
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Iggo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 11:57 AM
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3. Oh, God. Not again.
This issue comes up...what....every year? Here's how you stop it:

When I was a kid (also several gazillion years ago) my mom walked down to the school and told them, "I spank my kids. You don't touch my kids." Totally worked.
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madmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 12:21 PM
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6. Pretty much the same thing my SO told the school about our son......
he told them he'd even spank him in front of the whole school on stage if warranted but YOU don;t!!!!! never needed, glad to say.
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Bill McBlueState Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 11:57 AM
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4. I went to school in Ohio
In my small-town district in the late 80's, corporal punishment was still legal. But it could be used only in the presence of several witnesses and after some kind of appeals process. The end result was that it never happened, due to all the red tape.

I suspect that's the case in many locations -- it's still legal, but almost never actually used. Still, legislation that takes it off the books completely is a good idea.
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951-Riverside Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 12:23 PM
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7. How come hitting women is bad but hitting children is acceptable? n/t
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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 12:27 PM
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8. Children don't vote. nt
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Trillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 12:30 PM
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11. You'll drive yourself crazy thinking about such paradoxes ! N/T
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bamacrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 12:28 PM
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9. I graduated high school in 2001 and got paddled my senior year.
Of course it is Alabama, my family in Minnesota couldn't believe people were still paddled. But since I was in kindergarten I got paddled, at least 60 or 70 times in my 13 years in public school. The funny thing is that I was liked by all the teachers and thought of as one of the good kids. I am one of about 50 out of 222 from my graduating class that went to college and one of an even fewer that actually graduated from college. I was a bit hyperactive as a child and paddling was used to make me settle down. I would say that I deserved about half of them, I was a smart ass too. Only a couple of times did they actually hurt though.
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SyntaxError Donating Member (378 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 12:30 PM
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10. I didn't think that was legal anywhere...
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Trillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 12:43 PM
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12. Why must schools be cruel?
There are non-cruel ways to reward good behavior, and dis-incentivize poor behavior, but schools seem like they're real idiots with regard to kind behavior modification, and I rather doubt the individuals making these 'spanking' decisions are idiots. It seems instead like they're training unstable 'attack dogs' (metaphor), on purpose.

I guess it's good for the Prison Industrial Complex.

It also seems like spanking should be an Eighth Amendment violation.
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sasquatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 12:46 PM
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13. There's places in Preble County that still do it
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Robb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 02:10 PM
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14. Pro-paddle groups will be enraged
...such as the Outrigger Canoe Club:


:D

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sasquatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 02:38 PM
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15. Rev-Acts will be quite dissapointed
:rofl:
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