Hostage Situation Reported At Clinton Campaign Office

[sabra]

Source: TheBostonChannel

Police Unclear As To How Many People Involved

POSTED: 1:13 pm EST November 30, 2007
UPDATED: 1:30 pm EST November 30, 2007

BOSTON -- Police are responding to a hostage situation at a Hillary Clinton presidential campaign office in New Hampshire.

The incident happened at about 1 p.m. Friday at 28 North Main St. in Rochester, police said.

It was unclear how many people were being held at the facility. Clinton, who is not in New Hampshire, is attending a National Democratic Committee meeting in Virginia.

Read more: http://www.thebostonchannel.com/news/14737866/detail.html

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UPDATED: 1:46 pm EST November 30, 2007

BOSTON -- An armed man took people hostage Friday at a Hillary Clinton presidential campaign office in New Hampshire, police said.

The incident happened at about 1 p.m. Friday at 28 North Main St. in Rochester. Officials said that a man is holding people hostage at the office, but it is unclear how many people are being held.

There are several police officers positioned across the street from the office, crouched down behind cruisers with guns drawn, according to a reported at the scene.

Nearby businesses have been evacuated, and the St. Elizabeth Seaton School has been locked down.

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[nashville_brook]

2. wtf?

[ConfidentialStatus]

116. Untill we have all the facts

I guess HR 1955 will come into play after this situation. :(

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[kestrel91316]

5. The RW can't play fair so they sic their thugs on Dems. Oy.

I am willing to bet money that there is a freeper at work here.

[tridim]

6. I wouldn't doubt it, since the media has been claiming she's evil for 15 years.

We should probably search the RW pundit sites for recent calls for violence against her. It's happened before.

[silverweb]

7. Or perhaps just some poor, deranged soul....

We'll have to wait and see. Could be a manifestation of some kind of mental illness. Could be something more sinister.

[RebelOne]

112. Seems he does have mental illness.

Someone posted on other forum that hostage taker's son said he had a history of mental illness and the father told the son to watch the news.

[silverweb]

125. Yes, I saw that.

And am currently getting smacked around a little for saying Hillary has an opportunity to do some good here. :eyes:

[niceypoo]

179. Yes he does, its called, "Neoconservatism."

They are all bat-shit crazy, but only a few actually act out their collective fantasy.

[Wilber_Stool]

188. Take a look at this

PDF

He may have had a run in with a kinkie priest in his youth.

[slackmaster]

22. Or someone on the left who disagrees with her Iraq war record

:hi:

[kestrel91316]

37. I have trouble envisioning an ANTIWAR activist taking hostages

and using a bomb.

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[oldtime dfl_er]

92. No kidding

This is a deranged act.

[Jacobin]

144. similar things happened during the last Viet Nam

I have no idea who is there, but we'll have to wait and see

[LynneSin]

40. I highly doubt they would resort to violence

One thing about the anti-war movement - on paper we're pretty non-violent

[txaslftist]

65. Naw... Lefties are smart enough not to take hostages on a slow news day.

[stimbox]

142. maybe one of her rabid fans? n/t

:hi:

[LynneSin]

38. It'll be a lone wolf

Someone crazed enough from years of Hillary bashing that they somehow have justified doing what they have done.

I pray that this all comes out safely and that no one is harm. And I pray that the person with the bomb gets the psychiatric help he/she needs in order to live a normal life.

[Divine Discontent]

8. let's refrain from jokes

until this is over? just a suggestion, it's a free country and I know we can say what we want. I just think it'd be callous to make jokes, and then something horrible happens to people.

My first thought is a neocon false-Christian.... who knows at this point. It could be a bad relationship situation... just horrible, I pray for them.

[DeepModem Mom]

13. Thank you. Could we IN THIS ONE INSTANCE refrain from Hillary bashing???

My usual note: I'm the proposer/organizer of the DU Obama Group.

[FloridaJudy]

57. Yes, please.

I'm not HRC's biggest fan, but this sort of thing could happen to any candidate. Let's all just keep our fingers crossed and pray for a peaceful outcome.

[Voltaire99]

164. Yes, I'm "praying" to the Flying Spaghetti Monster right now!

Dear FSM,

Please bring all to safety. See if you can make Hillary decline in the polls, too. Also, use your rational tentacles to eliminate my athlete's foot. Voltaire99 out.

[tavalon]

191. He can do that with his noodly appendages!

Rock on!

[customerserviceguy]

192. Is the FSM

any good on jock itch, too? :rofl:

[boricua79]

9. how much you wanna bet

It's disgruntled Republicans who are starting to realize they're not gonna win the next election.

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[rocktivity]

10. Literally blows the Rudy scandal right off the front pages, doesn't it?

:scared:
rocknation

[stlsaxman]

101. Very good point! n/t

[SyntaxError]

181. clearly planned.

[Joanne98]

11. I bet it's a gun nut!

[slackmaster]

21. No, he's a bomb nut

Probably an anti-war activist.

[silverweb]

43. I love the graphic!

:D

[Pale Blue Dot]

130. That's twice you've made that baseless accusation.

Can I assume that you'll apologize when you're wrong?

[slackmaster]

148. Why do you support bomb nuts?

:rofl:

I'll apologize to anti-war activists when Joanne98 apologizes to gun nuts.

[kestrel91316]

12. Links to local news sources:

NH:
http://www.wmur.com/news/14737868/detail.html

Boston:
http://www.thebostonchannel.com/news/14737866/detail.html

[Jennifer C]

15. thanks nt

[OzarkDem]

14. Geez, I can't stand conservatives

Prayers for Clinton's staffers that everything turns out ok and everyone is safe.

May right wing hate-mongers on radio and tv burn in hell some day for inflaming hatred for Democrats in these nuts.

[kestrel91316]

16. The RW radio nuts are trying to incite the mass genocide of

Democrats a la Rwanda a few years back, IMHO. Yes, I said that. And I mean every word of it. They mean to kill us.

Google "Dominionism". Read some Ann Coulter, because she is the lead inciter.

[Onlooker]

17. No surprise, I suppose

Given the widespread irrational hatred for Hillary (mostly by the right), it's no surprise that some poor soul has gone overboard. I think the only surprising thing is that something like this didn't happen sooner, even while Bill Clinton was in office. Personally, I think the hatred for Hillary stems for a deep-rooted sexism.

[kestrel91316]

49. BINGO. But this is really gonna backfire. A lot of women like me

for whom she is not the #1 pick are still gonna have her back when the wingnuts come calling.

It's about sisterhood.

[Jackpine Radical]

124. It's about humanhood.

A lot of us guys are standing alongside you.

[YvonneCa]

132. Humanhood...

...I like that. :patriot:

[ren728]

157. Hillary Hatred

I could not agree more.  The RW has perpetuated the
"Hillary's evil" theory for years.  Exactly why is
she evil?  Could never understand that one.  They could not
simply attack her politics but had to attack her personally
and instill fear and hatred into the simple minded Rush
followers.

[truedelphi]

170. There was that guy who flew his Cessna into the WH

While Bill was President. Cannot remember if he died on impact, or was arrested.

[OzarkDem]

172. Man w/ semi-automatic shot at WH during Clinton years

On Oct. 29, 1994, Francisco Martin Duran, a convicted felon, fired at least 29 shots as he ran down the south sidewalk of Pennsylvania Avenue. Duran was tackled by passersby and restrained by the Secret Service while trying to reload his weapon. No one was injured - and Mr. Clinton, in the White House at the time, was never in danger. The gunman was sentenced to 40 years in federal prison.


The crazy Cessna pilot


On Sept. 12, 1994, a pilot died when he crashed a small plane on the South Lawn of the White House. Steering a Cessna tolen from a Maryland airport, Frank Eugene Corder, an unemployed truck driver and an unlicensed pilot, flew into the prohibited airspace over the White House in the wee hours of that morning. Corder was killed when he dove the Cessna toward the mansion, crashing it on the South Lawn. His plane hit a tree on the steps of the South Portico, as well as a first-floor corner of the White House. President Clinton and his family were not in the mansion at the time.

Unidentified gunman shot into Clinton WH

In December 1994 alone, the White House saw five incidents. Four of them involved breaches (or would-be breaches) of the mansion's grounds, ranging from fence jumping to a homeless man waving a knife on a sidewalk outside the White House. (That man was shot by police and later died of his injuries.) Then, on Dec. 17, an unidentified person fired at least four bullets at the White House. One went through a dining room window, while others hit near the president's bedroom window on the second floor. No one was injured, but the case is still unsolved.

There were many more dangerous nutjobs attacking during the Clinton WH years...

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2001/02/07/national/main270258.shtml

[truedelphi]

198. And then way back when, Gerald Ford had several In His Face encounters

The woman from the Manson group that pulled a gun out on him. Etc.

He never seemed very concerned about those threats either.

[druidity33]

196. i don't like her

but i don't hate her. Why can i not say, "i disagree with her policies" and "i think there are better candidates" without being accused of hating?

For you to say:
"Personally, I think the hatred for Hillary stems for a deep-rooted sexism."

is deeply insulting to me.

:(

[Renew Deal]

42. You're right. Begin with Coulter and go from there?

[niceypoo]

183. Coulter is the leader of some violent right wing movement?

Phwew! What a relief!! That's like having Bozo the clown as an elite guerilla leader....just won't get you very far in the real world.

[cal04]

18. Updated at MSNBC:Woman who said she was freed: 'He showed us a bomb'

A man took an unknown number of people hostage at a New Hampshire campaign office for Democratic presidential hopeful Sen. Hillary Clinton, police said Friday.

The man claimed to have a bomb strapped to him when he walked into the office in Rochester, WHDH-TV reported.

WMUR-TV quoted a woman, Lettie Tzizik, saying she spoke to someone who said she had just been released by the man.

"A young woman with a 6-month- or 8-month-old infant came rushing into the store just in tears, and she said, 'You need to call 911. A man has just walked into the Clinton office, opened his coat and showed us a bomb strapped to his chest with duct tape,'" Tzizik said.

Police surrounded the building, evacuated the immediate area and placed other buildings, including a nearby school, under lockdown.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22043358/

[slackmaster]

20. Highway flares, wire, and duct tape

:nuke:

[Squatch]

19. She hasn't even been elected and this shit is starting already?

[kysrsoze]

115. I have worried that more than one person would try to take a shot at her

I don't doubt one of those RW sickos who has hated her for years, simply for being HRC, will try if she is elected. Although I am not a supporter, I still think the absolute hatred from the far right is just plain vile.

[crim son]

145. Interesting point, given that as much as many Dems really

freaking hate GWB, he hasn't been seriously threatened by anybody. The Peacemakers don't strap bombs to their bodies.

[Clintonista2]

23. UPDATE: I just heard on CNN that they apparently believe that he is holding 2 people

[texastoast]

24. Hostages Held by Armed Man at Clinton Office

Source: KPRC 2 Houston

An armed man, possibly with a bomb, has taken people hostage at Hillary Clinton's campaign office in Rochester, N.H.

Police said a man in his 40s, with salt-and-pepper hair, is in the building and has what appears to be an explosive device strapped to his body, TV station WMUR reported.

Witness Lettie Tzizik told the station that she spoke to a woman shortly after she was released from the office by the alleged hostage-taker.

"A young woman with a 6-month or 8-mont-old infant came rushing into the store just in tears, and she said, 'You need to call 911. A man has just walked into the Clinton office, opened his coat and showed us a bomb strapped to his chest with duct tape."

Read more: http://www.click2houston.com/news/14737959/detail.html

[xultar]

25. Duct tape is a huge clue. He's got to be a Rethuglican.

[slackmaster]

33. Or a college student

:D

[man4allcats]

114. Duct tape is partisan?

Who knew? :shrug:

[brentspeak]

26. You have "men", plural in the header, when it should be "man", singular

[texastoast]

27. Fixed

Thanks!

[xchrom]

28. wow -- this is scary. nt

[Rocknlex]

29. Anyone know...

where Rush is right now?

[MNDemNY]

31. I don't, Do YOU?

[Clintonista2]

35. Tell me about it. It's another foaming pig that knows they can't win an election with intelligence

So they resort to violence.

[texastoast]

158. At the slop trough

Where pigs like him belong.

:puke:

[dave29]

30. fuck.

let this end well -- why do people have to be so bat-shit crazy?

[BurtWorm]

32. Gee, I wonder what his favorite Website is...

:patriot:

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[annabanana]

34. MSNBC reporting on it now

so far all speculation..
Local cop says situation is "stabilized"
NBC reporting that hostage taker is demanding to speak to HRC

[slackmaster]

36. How she handles this will be very instructive, IMO

:popcorn:

[balantz]

54. Good point

[moggie]

67. The talking point will be "Hillary negotiates with terrorists"

"Do you want a president who has friendly chats with suicide bombers?"
That's if she does talk to him. If not, it'll be "why did she abandon those hostages?"

[Hobarticus]

85. Nope...if he's a white Christian, he's not a "terrorist"

That's how it works, y'know.

Oklahoma City?

Olympic Park?

Not terrorism, according to the powers-that-be.

[AntiFascist]

127. Exactly, if this were happening to a Republican campaign office....

you know it would be TERRAIST all over the place. They would probably even be calling in Rudy to take control of the situation.

[Hobarticus]

133. Heh...even Greenpeace and PETA are listed as "terr'ist"

Yet no right-leaning groups, even with a history of domestic violence against US citizens on our soil, are considered domestic threats.

Doesn't have to be a GOP campaign office. Somehow someone thinks a bunch of people protesting animal cruelty/enviornmental exploitation/etc. on a street corner are more dangerous than the nuts who McVeigh used to hang around with.

Feel safer?

[AntiFascist]

137. I notice that Fox News even mentioned....

"a string of assassinations" in the past. Even though these happened in the 60s, they wanted to remind us that liberal leaders have been killed in the past.

[Hobarticus]

139. ....by right-wing nutjobs, no less.

Sheesh. What a wonderful world, huh?

[rateyes]

104. There's no damned way the Secret Service is letting

Hillary Clinton get within 50 miles of that place until it's over.

[man4allcats]

119. Of course she could turn it into a "tough on terror" meme

by talking with the guy and telling him, "I've got your back." In this scenario, that would be the signal for the SWAT guys to put one in his back.

[progressivebydesign]

86. She's cancelled her speaking engagement already. She'll do the right thing. n/t

[Ellen Forradalom]

91. Nothing popcorn about it

This is a real test of her leadership abilities.

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[kegler14]

41. Freeper nutcases are at it

joking, seriously suggesting that this is a Clinton plant to gain sympathy. They're also saying that Rush is joking about it being a guy whose wife had an affair with Bill. Sick stuff, as usual.

[drmeow]

58. that was my first reaction

Rush is going to call it a plant for the publicity.

[progressivebydesign]

89. Hell, someone further up the thread wrote the same thing Rush said..

.. and it really disappointed me. Isn't it hard to believe we'd see that here? Makes me ill that there's so much hate out there and in here, too.

[jzodda]

When I first heard this "Freeper" is the first thing I thought of

It would not be beyond some of those lunatics there to be behind this. Maybe one of them finally lost it totally. Remember it was from there that death threats were made to the Clintons back in the 1990s

[Lochloosa]

44. Delete...

Not a live feed.

[Renew Deal]

53. It works.

I am listening to it.

[LoZoccolo]

46. FReeper reactions

They seem to mostly range from neutral to conspiracist.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1932902/posts

[CreekDog]

90. i guess this isn't clear cut enough for them to condemn it?

go figure.

[LoZoccolo]

147. Yeah, I think I saw just one outright condemnation of the use of violence.

Admittedly I didn't look through the whole thread, but it was still something I had to look for in order to find. Sadly I actually do think that the Clinton name rouses something ugly in right-wingers enough to do this kind-of stuff, but we can't let them change our minds based on that.

[ronnykmarshall]

47. Live feed

http://www.wmur.com/video/14738085/index.html

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[The Stranger]

51. What's weird is the New York Times web site has front page a story about a "Saudi Rape Case," but

nothing about their state Senator's campaign office in a nearby state being held hostage.

[SlingBlade]

56. WOW

Whats with all of the deletions, Did this subject out a few more freepers ?

[mrreowwr_kittty]

117. I'm wondering too. If it is, not a good way to demonstrate they are anti-terrorist, huh? nt

[balantz]

59. They're waiting for orders before they report anything.

[ronnykmarshall]

60. You must have missed it ..... it's on their web page now.

http://www.nytimes.com/

[The Stranger]

62. It says "4 minutes ago" beneath the article.

I didn't miss it -- the New York Times apparently did.

[RamboLiberal]

55. Clinton cancels DNC speech

Hillary Clinton has canceled her speech before the Democratic National Committee as a result of the developments at her New Hampshire office, DNC Chairman Howard Dean announced.

“Unfortunately as some of you know, there is a hostage situation in New Hampshire involving a Clinton campaign staff person," he said. "The details are sketchy at this time, but understandably Senator Clinton is now dealing with this very difficult problem and she is not going to be able to join us today. And we will keep them in our prayers and hope for a resolution to this situation in New Hampshire.”

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/

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Workers for Sen. Barack Obama's campaign office in Rochester also were evacuated, a campaign spokesman said. The office is four doors away from Clinton's. Staffers in John Edwards' office, a few buildings away, evacuated as well.

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D8T867S00&show_article=1

Hope all turns out well!

[Renew Deal]

61. WMUR says the person demands to speak with Hillary.

Also, Obama and Edwards offices are next door and have been evacuated.

[Prophet 451]

63. I was afraid of this

The right's hatred of Hillary is so intense that I think this may be just the first such incident.

[BleedingHeartPatriot]

66. Really? Could it be someone in a desperate situation?

Someone with untreated mental health issues?

A domestic situation?

MKJ

[Prophet 451]

69. Sure, but...

There are lots of such people and the psychology is such that they tend to fixate on something. Hillary has been demonised by the right to such an extent that she's now viewed as something akin to Satan (and not the version I worship, the bad one). Combine that level of demonisation with, for example, any number of people with untreated mental issues and you have a recipe for disaster.

[BleedingHeartPatriot]

75. You and I agree that there are many potential triggers. I'm still waiting to see how this

transpires before I assume that it's hatred of Sen. Clinton.

He could have the deranged notion that's she's the only one who can help him, for all we know. MKJ :shrug:

[Prophet 451]

76. Point well taken

and accepted, I probably am getting ahead of the evidence. Let's just hope everyone gets out in one piece.

[polmaven]

123. Looking at all of the Deleted Messages here

It looks like the right's hatred is pretty well matched by the left. How sick is that?

She is a HUMAN BEING, folks!!!! The hostages have family and friends! They don't deserve this. And Senator Clinton has supporters right here at DU.

At least our Mods are doing a good job keeping these haters in line.

I pray all will end safely with no one injured.

:cry:

[RavensChick]

162. Amen!

I hope this ends peacefully too. What a way to mess up someone's weekend.

[Aviation Pro]

64. A man in his mid-40s....

...salt and pepper hair. Gee, where's all that HOMELAND SECURITY when we need it?

[Prophet 451]

70. Guarding Republicans n/t

[northernsoul]

72. What's his FR username?

Does he live in mommy's basement or in the attic?

[rateyes]

106. You mean the bomb wasn't strapped

to a middle-easterner? Whodathunk a terrorist could be anything but an Arab Muslim? :sarcasm:

[slackmaster]

165. No, any self-respecting mentally ill Arab Muslim mucker would use real explosives

:nuke:

[BleedingHeartPatriot]

68. So, I'm watching MSNBC, and they say they've been asked to cut their overhead feed of the hostage

situation, by the local police.

And, they still haven't. :mad: MKJ

Now, they've cut the feed, but the anchor is describing the outside of the building and the law enforcement activity outside.

:mad:

[maddezmom]

74. CNN is showing older video now

[BleedingHeartPatriot]

78. Yes, they cut the feed, finally. It was surprising that they continued the feed as long as they did

after that request was made.

MKJ

[oznola24]

88. cnn

The network we can all trust

[oznola24]

77. News Coverage

Fox News has the best coverage

[BleedingHeartPatriot]

82. So, they haven't cut the feed as requested by local law enforcement?

FOX news fucking sucks. MKJ

[oznola24]

83. Fox News

I know!!

[flordehinojos]

79. WHERE IS POPPY TODAY/ WILL HE REMEMBER WHERE HE WAS TODAY/

HE PROMISED TO GIVE HILLARY HELL. DID HE UNLEASH THE WRATH OF POPPY ON HILLARY'S CAMPAIGN OFFICE/
COMING FROM POPPY BUSH ... ANY THING TO GIVE HILLARY HELL AND ANYTHING TO PROMOTE HIS SON'S "TERRARISTS ARE COMING, tERRARRISTS ARE A COMING, TER-A-RISTS CON-ING!"

[AntiFascist]

80. WOW, Fox News is on the side of the terrorists !!!1!

While MSNBC and CNN are being very careful not to show live footage in order not to tip off the hostage takers as to police strategy, Fox News is apparently showing live footage with realtime commentary on the strategy. Which side do you think the freepers are supporting?

On edit: LOL, oh now they are saying they don't want to give it away live. :mad:

[progressivebydesign]

81. This is truly awful. I pray for a good outcome for the hostages. n/t

[trashcanistanista]

84. This is being covered right now by Cspan2.

Still going on. Swat team is there and ready.

[trashcanistanista]

87. One of two hostages

released - confirmed, one still in there.

[trashcanistanista]

94. He says he has a bomb wants to speak to Hillary.

She cancelled her speech today. No further word.

[MindPilot]

96. Second hostage released accoding to CNN

[Javaman]

93. Man oh man, did this thread bring out the closet freeps or what?

I haven't seen so many deleted messages since the general election. LOL

[maddezmom]

97. ...

:D

[yodermon]

111. It's people claiming Democrats are behind this.

Its 1 of 2 groups:
a) rabid hillaryites claiming her primary opponent(s) are behind it
b) rabid anti-hillaryites claiming she's behind it in a false-flag operation which will be blamed on he primary opponents.

either way, :crazy:

[9thkvius]

95. Good God I hope this ends well

Like some of the other posters, I hesitate to jump to any conclusions, but I can't help but wonder if the guy might be someone who listens to right wing talk radio and has fixated on Senator Clinton. With a few notable exceptions (like the Unabomber) you generally don't see a lot of leftists in the United States anymore who are into violence and threatening people with explosives.

I just hope that everything ends without the cops having to go in after the guy. We'll never know what was going on in his head if they kill him, and I don't want to see anyone - hostages, bystanders, police, anyone - get hurt.

[Esra Star]

153. Unfortunately I think the person is suicidal.

And doubly unfortunately I think the police will oblige.

[tom_paine]

161. Actually, the Unabomber wasn't even a Leftist

Several years ago, some Bushie Asshole made that insinuation to me. As we KNOW most all the Bushies lie or simply repeat lies they have heard without checkling to see if they are true first, I decided to check.

I read part of the Unabomber manifesto. That was some sick puppy who hated everyone with equal opportunity. Of course, the Bushie Asshole was lying or just repeating a lie he'd heard from his Bushie Asshole Masters without checking, as they do so very very VERY often.

When the Unambomber was bashing the Liberal Left, he sounds like a Freeper. When he bashes the Bushie Right, he sounds like a hardcore Communist. Rantings everywhere. Hatred for EVERYONE, without exception.

Don't believe me? Then read.

http://www.thecourier.com/manifest.htm

But this I can say with 100% certainty, and it will become clear as you peruse Nutsy's Manifesto, he was no Leftie.

[Jennifer C]

98. Two hostages released

according to the NH local tv coverage.

[trashcanistanista]

100. According to WMUR per

CSPAN2, there were only two. So now he's in there by himself.

[trashcanistanista]

107. ABC says he is an older male

well known locally for mental illness. Told his son today to watch the news. He is still inside. Has something strapped to him.

[demo dutch]

99. Wow that's just terrible! I bet it's a pro-lifer

[LynneSin]

102. Or someone who listens to people like Rush Limbaugh everyday

After awhile you start buying into this crap

[MindPilot]

103. gee with all the data collection, surveillance, wiretapping, and intel,

One would think DHS would have been able to prevent this domestic terrorism. I guess they really do need to pass that Homegrown Violence and Radicalization Prevention Act.

:sarcasm:

I really hope this comes out OK.

[stlsaxman]

105. Nothing on ABC, CBS, NBC or even FOX affiliates...

guess 'cause i don't pay for cable or satellite i don't deserve to get news, huh?

:mad:

[RebelOne]

108. You can still go to their Web sites.

This news is on all of them.

[trashcanistanista]

109. It's being coverd on Cspan. from WMUR.

Clinton has cancelled her schedule for today. Obama closed his headquarters in Rochester.

[Breeze54]

193. It was on every channel here in MA!

Where do you live? :shrug:

ABC, CBS, NBC and FOX all day long!

[Mojambo]

110. Scary as fuck.

Hope it comes to a peaceful end.

[FloridaJudy]

113. Latest news: both hostages released unharmed

Thank the gods. No news on the hostage-taker yet.

We can all go back to screaming at each other now.

[grytpype]

120. I'm watching the live feed and I'm not seeing that.

Two hostages were released earlier, but he still has two.

[Hobarticus]

121. Reuters just confirmed

ROCHESTER, New Hampshire (Reuters) - A CNN producer said on air on Friday police had confirmed the release of the second of two hostages held at the New Hampshire campaign office of Democratic U.S. presidential candidate Hillary Clinton.

(Reporting by World Desk Americas)

[Spiffarino]

118. Stuff like this usually has nothing to do with politics

It's all about the attention.

Having said that, would I be surprised if he'd been incited by talk radio haters? Not a bit.

[Lone_Star_Dem]

122. It's been reported he told his son to watch the news

It's possible he was trying to get his the attention of his family? Who knows?

They're saying he has a history of mental illness, perhaps in his mind he thought he'd find the Senator there and get a chance to make his case?

[wheresthemind]

126. Can we PLEASE avoid blaming people or groups for this?

The news is reporting that this person may have a history of mental health issues. Blaming this on any particular group of people or point of view at this moment is inappropriate, premature, and insulting. Don't make us look like a bunch of paranoids with prejudices.

[HERVEPA]

129. Stop making sense

[Lone_Star_Dem]

140. I doubt most mean to be laying blame

It's more that in a situation such as this people look for a reason. To think that there's a chance that he may be acting as he is due to a mental illness that isn't being properly treated is easier to understand than all the other reasons why a person may decide to do something such as this.

However, you're right. Just because he has a history of mental illness doesn't mean that's the reason he's acted the way he has today. I do hope for his sake it is though.

[slackmaster]

149. What have you got against people with mental health problems?

:hide:

[wheresthemind]

152. um... nothing

My comment is meant for people to stick with what we know, which is that the suspect possibly has a history of mental health issues, and not start blaming republicans, pro-lifers, and any number of the other groups mentioned at one point or another here.

[slackmaster]

156. Anyone who would pull a stunt like that obviously has some "issues"

:hi:

Regardless of his politics.

[AntiFascist]

151. The man is characterized as a Libertarian who distrusted the government...

if you want to blame a "group", it is the same mindset as McVeigh or the Waco cult members. I think there is a deeper sociological issue where the government is not forthcoming in its investigations, such as in the 9-11 commission report, which is stirring up a lot of paranoia and conspiracy theories. It really comes to a head in situations like this.

[BlueManDude]

173. I bet every vote he's ever cast has been GOP.

[OzarkDem]

175. No, the right wing news media has created these people

No sense trying to hide from it. It happened when Clinton was in the WH and it will happen again when the next Dem wins.

The GOP and right wing media know very well the danger of using propaganda 24/7 to stir up hate among those who are paranoid and not inclined to think for themselves, but they do it anyway.

[Carrieyazel]

128. The past 30 days has been a nightmare for Hillary's campaign!

Its going to get worse before it gets better. I hope everyone gets out safe.

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[jackster]

131. Anyone else here Jack Levin, Northeastern,

refer to the "Democrat" Party in his analysis of the situation on Boston local channel 7 WHDH? I've been trying to get through to WHDH comment line but apparently all the lines are full!

[derby378]

135. Look, people...

I know opinions about Hillary Clinton and her campaign are varied and often heated, but right now all I want is for those staffers to make it through this ordeal alive and for the bomber to be subdued and arrested before he does something stupid like blow himself up.

That's all I want. May peace prevail.

[DDiamond]

136. That's five minutes from where I am now!

That's five minutes drive from where I am now. Man, it's scary to have this sort of thing strike so close to home.

[DDiamond]

141. Local news coverage a bit ahead of national news

The local station (channel 9 WMUR) seems to be slightly ahead of the cable news. I noticed Fox was splashing the suspects's name over the airwaves, other channels have been more restrained.

Allegedly the suspect is reported to have told one of his relatives to "watch the news today."

Hope everything turns out O.K.

[Kokonoe]

138. Fox says he bought road flares this morning.

[slackmaster]

150. If that's true then I called it way early

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=3084200&mesg_id=3084308

[muryan]

143. interview on fox as i type

guy confirms that the hostage taker is a freeper. Talks about government conspiracies and constantly blames liberal/democratic politicians.

[niceypoo]

178. That was my first thought.....right wing conspiracy nut

Conspiracies, Vince Foster....Clinton killed 500 people...the Clinton Mafia...the whole ball of wax. this is what Limbaugh and Hannutty drive their listeners to....a foaming frenzy. Cant wait to hear how FAUX spins this once they realize it is one of their own.

[graywarrior]

146. Let me add my WTF? here.

:wtf:

[Summer93]

154. Clues

Another thing that has been disclosed is that the man has been drinking for the last 72 hours.

[sniffa]

159. his son called police earlier in the day

saying his dad had been drinking for 2 days straight. before leaving, he told his son to "watch the news."

someone on the radio also claimed that the bomb, is actually road flares strapped to his body.

the radio also just said that the last hostage was released.. but on Wolfie's show, they're saying there's still hostages?

this reminds me of 9-11 and the stories and misinformation coming from everywhere.

[candymarl]

155. Poor hostages

I just hope everyone comes out of this alive and ok. This isn't about politics. This is about human lives in the balance. The political aspect just happens to be the vehicle. I don't think it's the total cause.:scared:

[KewlKat]

160. Local news just reported 2 hostages

still inside.........

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[Ian David]

166. Tonight, Katie Couric will outline the perky aspects of hostage-taking. n/t

[wicket]

167. My my my those are a lot of deleted messages

[Viva_La_Revolution]

168. Faux says 1 just released, 1 more probably inside nt

[ronnykmarshall]

171. WMUR interviewing Clinton volunteer that was not in the building.

He was able to speak to some of the hostages earlier after the man came in.

He stated that there is one remaining hostage, a 20 year old man.

[lonestarnot]

169. Man stay away from DU for a day and you loose touch with the world!

[proudmoddemo]

174. Let's Face the Facts:

This is a relatively common event. It has happened in the past; it happened today, and it'll probably happen in the future. Part of being involved in politics is a certain amount of risk--and that risk is less than the risk you taken when you strap yourself into a car. There are people that are mentally ill. They get offended by the stupidest things; they send death threats. It happens to most national figures. Senator Clinton is no different.

However, look at our reaction to this. It was a guy with road flares for God's sake. He was of danger to no one but himself. He was a mentally ill person on some loony quest for fame and/or some irrational quest to change policy. This has been going on since John Wilkes Booth.

But look at how we reacted to it. It was 9-11 all over again. Campaign offices in Iowa closed. Candidates for office canceled their speeches. Cable news went on and on for hours about a guy with road flares strapped to his chest. The guy got the attention he wanted. And the other fruitcakes that have drank for 3 days straight will surely follow. After all, the democratic process was stopped by a crazy guy with road flares strapped to his chest.

A guy with road flares strapped to his chest is not a danger to Senator Clinton, her staffers, and least of all the nation. I can see local TV covering this. But this doesn't rise to the level of a terribly serious event. This happens all the time--in 7-Elevens, gas stations and other places. That doesn't get attention. This did--this did because, since 9-11, we automatically think the worst case scenario. And that is a very scary thing. Far scarier than this.

(For the record, I have received weird phone calls from crazy people that didn't like a candidate I was working for. Nothing ever came of it. I am sure it was scary for those involved. But life, and the democratic process, goes on. I hope that no one, including the hostage taker, is injured in this).

[PaDem]

176. It's over now

Hostage taker is in custody.

[ronnykmarshall]

177. It's over!

Last hostage released.

Suspect arrested.

No one hurt.

[proudmoddemo]

180. That's good

But we still over-reacted to it.

[ronnykmarshall]

182. And that's news?

Tin foil was flying as usual.

[Tellurian]

189. Sometimes I wonder if some of the haters here are capable of the same thing..

I've never hated anyone in my life. I also wonder if someone like the hostage-taker reads at a similar message board like here and gets his courage up and goes over the edge into the la-la land of destructive behavior. scary stuff!

[Breeze54]

194. Maybe you?

You seem to be the one fixated on calling members at DU "haters".

:eyes:

[ohio2007]

184. So, does the nutcase get thrown into an overcrowded jail system or

do they cut him loose if he stays on his meds?

[WillParkinson]

185. Breaking News: Hostage Taking At Clinton NH Campaign Office

Source: 365Gay.com

(Rochester, New Hampshire) A mentally unstable man wearing what appeared to be a bomb strapped to his chest walked into a Hillary Rodham Clinton campaign office Friday, took hostages and demanded to speak to the candidate in a standoff that dragged into the night, authorities said.

The man released at least three hostages, but was still holding one person at nightfall, nearly five hours after the ordeal began, according to a law enforcement source who spoke to The Associated Press on the condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to speak about the situation.

Clinton was in the Washington area at the time, but the confrontation brought her campaign to a standstill just five weeks before the New Hampshire primary, one of the first tests of the presidential campaign season. She canceled all appearances, as did her husband, and the security around her was increased as a precaution.



Read more: http://www.365gay.com/Newscon07/11/113007hostage.htm

[Bicoastal]

186. um, ANOTHER one?

I don't think this qualifies as LBN

[WillParkinson]

187. Apparently

It's not as "breaking" as the site suggested. My apologies. I've already alerted on it. :-)

[SyntaxError]

190. I'd be mad too if the government put a chip in my head...

[JeanGrey]

195. I heard on the radio it was about health insurance?

[DDiamond]

197. So I walked by the scene of the incident today

Thankfully the situation ended yesterday with no one getting hurt.

I wanted to see the place, so I walked by it today - it's next town over for me. You couldn't imagine a more typical New England main street, BTW. All quiet, Clinton office closed with a police car opposite it, a couple of news media unhurriedly talking videos of the officefront.