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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 10:03 PM
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Seizure of Iranians Failed to Validate Bush Line
Source: ipsnews



http://www.ipsnews.net/news.asp?idnews=40104

Seizure of Iranians Failed to Validate Bush Line
by Gareth Porter*

WASHINGTON, Nov 17 (IPS) - The George W. Bush administration's campaign to seize and detain Iranian Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) officials in Iraq, presented by Bush himself last January as a move to break up an alleged Iranian arms smuggling operation in Iraq, appears to have run its course without having been able to link a single Iranian to any such operation.

Despite administration rhetoric suggesting that the U.S. military had solid intelligence on which to base a campaign to break up Iranian-sponsored networks supplying armour-piercing weapons, what is now known about the kidnapping operations indicates that the actual purpose was to obtain some evidence from interrogations that would support the administration's line that the IRGC's elite Quds Force is involved in assisting Shiite forces militarily.

None of the six Iranians now held by the U.S. military, however, has provided any evidence for the administration's case despite many months of very tough interrogation usually employed on "high value" detainees.

Wayne White, former deputy director of the Bureau of Intelligence and Research Office of Analysis for the Near East and South Asia, told IPS he believes the administration badly wanted to get information from the Iranian detainees that they could use to make their case, but has been unable to do so.

"I'm convinced that they haven't gotten anything out of them," he said in an interview. "They haven't come up with anything they can shop around."


Read more: http://www.ipsnews.net/news.asp?idnews=40104
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 10:05 PM
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1. It's cr@P! We're the ones sending people across the border into Iran.
Now we know whose president is the bigger winger and it isn't Iran.
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 10:08 PM
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2. shocked! shocked am I!
I had no idea the administration was trying to falsify intelligence! They've never done that before!
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 10:12 PM
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4. grand healine!!--makes my day!!
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 10:11 PM
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3. I have no doubt these Iranians were the recipients of ...
Edited on Sat Nov-17-07 10:12 PM by Spazito
"enhanced interrogation techniques" that are "worth gold" if they result in any "intelligence" that can back up the bush cabal's lies on the road to another illegal act, this time against Iran.

It doesn't seemed to have worked, no gold to be found via torture.

Edited for clarity.
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99th_Monkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 11:37 PM
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5. Those Iranian detainees aren't the only one's being tortured .. ahh.
ahem.. I mean "interrogated" harshly in a desperate attempt to find SOME shred of "evidence" linking Iran to the Iraq insurgency. Just last week one of the interrogators went public, saying that they were instructed to make Iran the focus of many interrogations of many detainees. It's just about as sick as it gets, as Bushco flails around abusing and torturing people to validate his demonization of Iran as "evil".
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mallard Donating Member (460 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 06:30 AM
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10. Re: interrogator goes public
Would you happen to have a link on that?
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99th_Monkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 03:19 PM
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12. yep. ... here ya go ..
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rAVES Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 03:43 AM
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6. Why not just beat them until they "admit" the "truth"
:sarcasm:
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 04:20 AM
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7. Torture for the sake of torture. bush gets off on it... cheney dreams about it...
And we pay for it.
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Cobalt-60 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 05:24 AM
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8. the Republican Party officially stands for Torture and Murder
This makes arguing against it pretty easy.
I'm hoping that these two evil, primordial horrors will
spell the death of the Republican party.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 05:55 AM
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9. can they rescind the assinine K-L ammendment now?
But Clintons hawkishness was in full force a couple of weeks ago when Bush announced sanctions on Irans Revolutionary Guard Corps and its Quds division. The Senate went further. It declared the Guard a foreign terrorist organization (which is no different than declaring the U.S. Marines an American terrorist organization). And Clinton voted for that silly initiative, as did 74 other senators. None of the other Democratic candidates supported the resolution.


http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2007/11/13/5185 /

:grr:
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 11:17 AM
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11. And them damn Iranians use WOODCHIPPERS to abuse Iraqis with!
They stuff them Iraqis into the woodchipper feet first so they suffer longer!

Ya really gotta wonder how a nation supposedly "the best" ended up with so many citizens so deeply fucking stupid.
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