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Dover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-10-07 12:49 PM
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Iran, Pakistan dump India, ink gas contract
Edited on Sat Nov-10-07 12:59 PM by Dover
Source: THe Economic Times

Iran, Pakistan dump India, ink gas contract

10 Nov, 2007

TEHRAN: Iran and Pakistan have finalised a contract for a multi-billion-dollar gas export deal scheduled to be signed within a month without the third partner India, which is yet to settle transit fee issues with Islamabad.

"The content of the Peace Pipeline contract has been finalised and all the points prepared by the two sides' legal experts have been re-read and agreed by the two sides," Iran's deputy minister in charge of the project, Hojatollah Ganimifard, was quoted as saying by the Iranian oil ministry's news service Shana on Saturday.

"The remaining points which are technical issues... must be studied within a month to make the contract ready for the simultaneous signing by the heads of the two countries," Ghanimifard said.

Tehran and Islamabad have neared a conclusion to the contract in the absence of India, a potential party to the deal....>




Read more: http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/Iran_Pakistan_dump_India_ink_gas_contract/articleshow/2531808.cms



Iran's Concern Over India-U.S. Ties

NEW DELHI, Nov 8: A senior Iranian official urged New Delhi on Thursday not to drift too close to Washington, emphasising his country’s wish to be a major energy supplier to a “friendly” India.

Iran’s Interior Minister Mostafa Pour Mohammadi said Tehran was determined to push ahead with plans to pipe gas to India via Pakistan, despite opposition from the United States and an increasing range of sanctions.

“We hope that India’s national interests will not be influenced from outside,” Pour Mohammadi said, adding that he had discussed “the unilateralism of the Americans” with Indian government leaders.

“India is growing fast and needs a lot of energy, and we want to meet the needs of friendly countries,” he said.

New Delhi is trying to implement a nuclear energy accord with the United States aimed at bringing India — which has not signed the nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty — into the global atomic fuel loop for the first time.

The deal requires India, which has nuclear weapons, to allow international monitoring of its facilities. But it has been held up due to opposition from within Prime Minister Manmohan Singh’s coalition government...>

http://article.wn.com/view/2007/11/09/Iran_s_concern_over_IndiaUS_ties/?template=cheetah-article%2Fdisplayarticle.txt
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-10-07 01:01 PM
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1.  Iran and Pakistan
How convenient georgie
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izquierdista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-10-07 01:31 PM
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2. Is that ecologically sound?
Is India ink biodegradable, or will this hang around in the environment forever? The article didn't say how big the spill was or where they dumped it. :shrug: :shrug:
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Dover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-10-07 02:14 PM
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3. Pakistan-US-India triangle
Pakistan-US-India triangle



Saturday, November 10, 2007
Ishtiaq Ahmed

Two major events have impacted profoundly on the balance of power in South Asia: the collapse of the Soviet Union in 1991 and the terrorist attacks on the United States in 2001. The balance of power in South Asia comprised primarily two rival states, India and Pakistan. India enjoyed the advantages of size -- population, territory and economy -- but after the nuclear blasts by both of them in May 1998, Pakistan could to a large extent neutralise that advantage by evolving the notion of a credible nuclear deterrent.

However, with India and the United States drawing closer to each other, with or without the controversial Nuclear Deal, Pakistan will have to reassess its defence strategy. While the India-Pakistan relationship remains a constant bad the relations between India and the United States and between Pakistan and the United States have changed dramatically. How this change in the triangle will affect the Pakistan-India relationship needs to be probed.

Although logically China should worry the Indian defence planners more than Pakistan, most of India's actual armed encounters have taken place with the latter. On the other hand, Pakistan's defence planning has always been based on the assumption that the main threat to its security comes from India. During the 1960s Pakistan worked out an understanding with PR China to offset the Indian preponderance in numbers.

Both states clashed over Kashmir in 1948 and then fought two wars in 1965 and 1971. These wars were fought in the background of an ongoing arms race between them. On 11 and 13 May 1998 India detonated altogether five nuclear devices. Pakistan followed suit a few days later with a series of six test explosions on 28 and 30 May. In May 1999, both sides fought a limited war at Kargil, which many feared could end in a nuclear confrontation. The confrontational approach came to a head when on December 13, 2001 some terrorists tried to enter the Indian Parliament to capture the legislators inside. India responded by sending a million soldiers to the international border with Pakistan and Pakistan order its own troops to it.

All-out war became a very grave possibility at that juncture, but international diplomacy with the US in the lead resulted in a climb down. Since then efforts to facilitate a dialogue between the two adversaries and persuade them to reach a negotiated settlement of their disputes has been supported by many international actors. The peace process has been moving forward slowly since then. Although there is reason for optimism it would be wrong to assert that relations between these two South Asian rivals have become normal...>

http://www.thenews.com.pk/daily_detail.asp?id=79830



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Dover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-10-07 02:14 PM
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Pakistan-US-India triangle
Pakistan-US-India triangle



Saturday, November 10, 2007
Ishtiaq Ahmed

Two major events have impacted profoundly on the balance of power in South Asia: the collapse of the Soviet Union in 1991 and the terrorist attacks on the United States in 2001. The balance of power in South Asia comprised primarily two rival states, India and Pakistan. India enjoyed the advantages of size -- population, territory and economy -- but after the nuclear blasts by both of them in May 1998, Pakistan could to a large extent neutralise that advantage by evolving the notion of a credible nuclear deterrent.

However, with India and the United States drawing closer to each other, with or without the controversial Nuclear Deal, Pakistan will have to reassess its defence strategy. While the India-Pakistan relationship remains a constant bad the relations between India and the United States and between Pakistan and the United States have changed dramatically. How this change in the triangle will affect the Pakistan-India relationship needs to be probed.

Although logically China should worry the Indian defence planners more than Pakistan, most of India's actual armed encounters have taken place with the latter. On the other hand, Pakistan's defence planning has always been based on the assumption that the main threat to its security comes from India. During the 1960s Pakistan worked out an understanding with PR China to offset the Indian preponderance in numbers.

Both states clashed over Kashmir in 1948 and then fought two wars in 1965 and 1971. These wars were fought in the background of an ongoing arms race between them. On 11 and 13 May 1998 India detonated altogether five nuclear devices. Pakistan followed suit a few days later with a series of six test explosions on 28 and 30 May. In May 1999, both sides fought a limited war at Kargil, which many feared could end in a nuclear confrontation. The confrontational approach came to a head when on December 13, 2001 some terrorists tried to enter the Indian Parliament to capture the legislators inside. India responded by sending a million soldiers to the international border with Pakistan and Pakistan order its own troops to it.

All-out war became a very grave possibility at that juncture, but international diplomacy with the US in the lead resulted in a climb down. Since then efforts to facilitate a dialogue between the two adversaries and persuade them to reach a negotiated settlement of their disputes has been supported by many international actors. The peace process has been moving forward slowly since then. Although there is reason for optimism it would be wrong to assert that relations between these two South Asian rivals have become normal...>

http://www.thenews.com.pk/daily_detail.asp?id=79830



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Dover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-10-07 02:14 PM
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4. Pakistan-US-India triangle
Pakistan-US-India triangle



Saturday, November 10, 2007
Ishtiaq Ahmed

Two major events have impacted profoundly on the balance of power in South Asia: the collapse of the Soviet Union in 1991 and the terrorist attacks on the United States in 2001. The balance of power in South Asia comprised primarily two rival states, India and Pakistan. India enjoyed the advantages of size -- population, territory and economy -- but after the nuclear blasts by both of them in May 1998, Pakistan could to a large extent neutralise that advantage by evolving the notion of a credible nuclear deterrent.

However, with India and the United States drawing closer to each other, with or without the controversial Nuclear Deal, Pakistan will have to reassess its defence strategy. While the India-Pakistan relationship remains a constant bad the relations between India and the United States and between Pakistan and the United States have changed dramatically. How this change in the triangle will affect the Pakistan-India relationship needs to be probed.

Although logically China should worry the Indian defence planners more than Pakistan, most of India's actual armed encounters have taken place with the latter. On the other hand, Pakistan's defence planning has always been based on the assumption that the main threat to its security comes from India. During the 1960s Pakistan worked out an understanding with PR China to offset the Indian preponderance in numbers.

Both states clashed over Kashmir in 1948 and then fought two wars in 1965 and 1971. These wars were fought in the background of an ongoing arms race between them. On 11 and 13 May 1998 India detonated altogether five nuclear devices. Pakistan followed suit a few days later with a series of six test explosions on 28 and 30 May. In May 1999, both sides fought a limited war at Kargil, which many feared could end in a nuclear confrontation. The confrontational approach came to a head when on December 13, 2001 some terrorists tried to enter the Indian Parliament to capture the legislators inside. India responded by sending a million soldiers to the international border with Pakistan and Pakistan order its own troops to it.

All-out war became a very grave possibility at that juncture, but international diplomacy with the US in the lead resulted in a climb down. Since then efforts to facilitate a dialogue between the two adversaries and persuade them to reach a negotiated settlement of their disputes has been supported by many international actors. The peace process has been moving forward slowly since then. Although there is reason for optimism it would be wrong to assert that relations between these two South Asian rivals have become normal...>

http://www.thenews.com.pk/daily_detail.asp?id=79830



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Dover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-10-07 02:14 PM
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5. Pakistan-US-India triangle
Pakistan-US-India triangle



Saturday, November 10, 2007
Ishtiaq Ahmed

Two major events have impacted profoundly on the balance of power in South Asia: the collapse of the Soviet Union in 1991 and the terrorist attacks on the United States in 2001. The balance of power in South Asia comprised primarily two rival states, India and Pakistan. India enjoyed the advantages of size -- population, territory and economy -- but after the nuclear blasts by both of them in May 1998, Pakistan could to a large extent neutralise that advantage by evolving the notion of a credible nuclear deterrent.

However, with India and the United States drawing closer to each other, with or without the controversial Nuclear Deal, Pakistan will have to reassess its defence strategy. While the India-Pakistan relationship remains a constant bad the relations between India and the United States and between Pakistan and the United States have changed dramatically. How this change in the triangle will affect the Pakistan-India relationship needs to be probed.

Although logically China should worry the Indian defence planners more than Pakistan, most of India's actual armed encounters have taken place with the latter. On the other hand, Pakistan's defence planning has always been based on the assumption that the main threat to its security comes from India. During the 1960s Pakistan worked out an understanding with PR China to offset the Indian preponderance in numbers.

Both states clashed over Kashmir in 1948 and then fought two wars in 1965 and 1971. These wars were fought in the background of an ongoing arms race between them. On 11 and 13 May 1998 India detonated altogether five nuclear devices. Pakistan followed suit a few days later with a series of six test explosions on 28 and 30 May. In May 1999, both sides fought a limited war at Kargil, which many feared could end in a nuclear confrontation. The confrontational approach came to a head when on December 13, 2001 some terrorists tried to enter the Indian Parliament to capture the legislators inside. India responded by sending a million soldiers to the international border with Pakistan and Pakistan order its own troops to it.

All-out war became a very grave possibility at that juncture, but international diplomacy with the US in the lead resulted in a climb down. Since then efforts to facilitate a dialogue between the two adversaries and persuade them to reach a negotiated settlement of their disputes has been supported by many international actors. The peace process has been moving forward slowly since then. Although there is reason for optimism it would be wrong to assert that relations between these two South Asian rivals have become normal...>

http://www.thenews.com.pk/daily_detail.asp?id=79830



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kitty1 Donating Member (772 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-10-07 02:22 PM
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6. Pak dealing with Iran; Won't this disturb the Bushies...
I thought Junior wanted his friends on side with him and not have dealings with Iran.
I think Mushy will be sent to his room pretty soon with no funds if all if this trouble keeps up.
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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-10-07 03:31 PM
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7. You can't keep good crude down (unless Dumbya decides he's Truman and nukes it).
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Venus Dog Donating Member (419 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-11-07 02:22 PM
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8. Iran and Pakistan finalise gas deal; signing in a month
Source: Gulf Times - Published: Sunday, 11 November, 2007, 01:43 AM Doha Time

TEHRAN: Iran and Pakistan have finalised a contract for a multi-billion-dollar gas export deal scheduled to be signed within a month, the Iranian oil ministry’s news service Shana reported yesterday.

“The content of the Peace Pipeline contract has been finalised and all the points prepared by the two sides’ legal experts have been re-read and agreed by the two sides,” Iran’s deputy minister in charge of the project, Hojatollah Ghanimifard, was quoted as saying.

“The remaining points which are technical issues... must be studied within a month to make the contract ready for the simultaneous signing by the heads of the two countries,” Ghanimifard said.


Read more: http://www.gulf-times.com/site/topics/article.asp?cu_no=2&item_no=183961&version=1&template_id=48&parent_id=28



Wonder if this will be in dollars or euros? My bet is euros. What exactly is Musharraf doing? Is he becoming another Sadam/Noriega/etc? Or maybe Cheney is behind this? All I can say is WTF?
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