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OhioChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-01-07 07:12 AM
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Micron to ship jobs to India
Source: IdahoStatesman

Workers, speaking on condition they not be named, say their jobs will be phased out next year between January and August.
11/01/07

Between now and August, Micron Technology is outsourcing much of its information technology department, with at least some work moving to India.
The company hasn't disclosed its plans publicly, but employees who have contacted the Idaho Statesman say the outsourcing could eliminate several hundred more jobs at the company's Boise headquarters.

Micron isn't the only local company outsourcing IT jobs to India. SuperValu, which bought Albertsons in June 2006, announced Tuesday that it was laying off 180 IT workers — including an unspecified number in Boise — and sending the work to India.

Micron workers cannot speak publicly without risking the loss of any severance packages, but several who have contacted the Statesman say the plans were unveiled earlier this month.

Most jobs will either be outsourced to India or contracted to a third party, workers say. Most of the employees affected say they will have their jobs phased out between January and August.



Read more: http://www.idahostatesman.com/business/story/198556.html



Hello India........!
This is happening on a daily basis, anymore.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-01-07 07:31 AM
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1. who is the "senator from punjab" ?
"Sen. Clinton (D-Punjab) Joked That She Was Senator From The Punjab Region In India. “At the fundraiser hosted by Dr Rajwant Singh at his Potomac, Maryland, home, and which raised nearly $50,000 for her re-election campaign, Clinton began by joking that, ‘’I can certainly run for the Senate seat in Punjab and win easily,’ after being introduced by Singh as the Senator not only from New York but also Punjab.”


it`s not very funny to the tens of thousands who lost their jobs because of outsourcing to india
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-04-07 09:33 PM
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3. Don't anybody attack Hillary! She said she's gonna help Middle Class workers. Even AFL-CIO agrees!
:crazy:


More like jab-at-a-pun.

If she wants to run India, let her move to India. Trouble is, will they let her in? They have their own people to feed, will otherwise hate the US anyway, but on the flip side... wait, that insult would be too much for even me to say, and then I'd feel sorry for the cows anyway.

Amusingly, despite all those delicious votes of union support, we have this:
http://www.bluebloggin.com/2007/09/08/unions-troubled-with-clintons-record/

Unions troubled with Clinton's record.

Wow.

Who the hell wouldn't be? Does she have anything to stand on at all?

And if Clinton is pandering to everyone else, why should anyone give her any sincerity over the one thing she's (purportedly) been consistent about: Foreign policy? How do we not know she's pandering and lying over that as well?

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OhioChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-04-07 09:35 PM
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5. India Loves Hillary....
'Indian Americans for Hillary 2008' formed

April 13, 2007

Indian Americans for Hillary 2008,' a newly-formed group to mobilise the community to support US Senator Hillary Clinton's presidential bid on Thursday, made a high pitch for electing the New York democrat as the first woman President of the United States.

Ahead of the group's June 27 fund-raising dinner for Clinton in New York City, which is expected to be attended, among others, by Arcelor Mittal chairman Lakshmi Mittal, S P Hinduja of the Hinduja Group and Union Minister Praful Patel, the organisers explained during the launch of the group why Clinton should be the choice of the Indian Americans.

New York hotelier Sant Singh Chatwal, who is a close friend of the Clintons and the initiator of the group, said if there was ever a time for the Indian-American community to mobilise, the time is now.

"The Clintons have so far done a lot for India and the Indian-American community. Hillary Clinton has been to India four times and Bill has been there over five times. Let us also not forget that the former President co-founded the AIF immediately after the Gujarat earthquake to help the hapless people," Chatwal said, adding that both of them had supported the Indo-US civilian nuclear cooperation with India.

"The Clintons supported us and it is time for us to give them back. We believe that the Clintons have emotional ties and relationship with India and it is time to bring a friend who knows about India and who knows about the Indian-American and that is why we support Hillary for President," Chatwal told Rediff India Abroad.

Among those who were present at the launch included Congressman Joseph Crowley, Christine C Quinn, Speaker of the New York City Council, Mike Patel, former president of the Asian American Hotel owners Association and community leaders like Dr Bhupi Patel, Kamal Dandona, Tejinder Singh Dandona and H R Shah.

http://www.rediff.com/news/2007/apr/13look.htm
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-04-07 10:03 PM
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6. The Indians, once here, are Americans.
Edited on Sun Nov-04-07 10:04 PM by HypnoToad
It'd be no different than my emigrating to Italy. At that point I'm there for Italy, as an "American-Italian" (or just plain Italian because, by emigrating, one severs ties with the country they are leaving), surely?

What am I missing?
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OhioChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-04-07 10:09 PM
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8. Oops....Wrong Article
I was looking for another story similar to this...(found it to be quite interesting)

Indian companies are learning the Washington lobbying game
The US-India Political Action Committee has defended outsourcing vendors, most of whose employees are in India. In a sign of their changing approach, the Indian vendors are also imitating a tactic used against them in the last election: putting a human, and preferably American, face on the issue.

In the heat of the 2004 US presidential race, John Kerry likened outsourcing to treason, Lou Dobbs harangued against it from his CNN anchor chair and the Indian outsourcing vendors were left scrambling.

Engineers to the core, their leaders fired back with data-packed PowerPoint presentations. Outsourcing is good for the economy, they said; it increases efficiency; it creates more jobs than it costs. But in the eyes of Americans, those arguments proved no match for vivid tales of laid-off software engineers.

“Telling someone who loses their job in North Carolina or Jacksonville that this is good for the economy doesn’t work,” said Phiroz Vandrevala, Executive VP, Tata Consultancy Services.

Now as the 2008 US election starts to sizzle, the Indian outsourcing firms have returned to win Washington over as veritable insiders, slicker and better connected than ever. They have hired a former high official in the administration of President George W Bush as a lobbyist. They are humanising the issue by bringing Americans they have hired into meetings with politicians.


http://www.deccanherald.com/Content/Aug272007/eb2007082621598.asp

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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-04-07 10:14 PM
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9. It creates more jobs. Not in America, obviously!
And it can't be called "globalization" if all that's happening is "migration". Unless I'm missing something and I invariably am...

I do see sides of the issue that do justify what's going on, but it's the fact so many Americans have been hurt by what's going on is why I've got problems with it. (Again, we can never have enough scientists and engineers, but in the way our economy works, money is an incentive and in America, people are losing incentive, never mind the little debt problem and not being able to pay it off because the jobs are seen as simply "cheaper" elsewhere. The whole situation is an uncontrolled mess.)
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Megahurtz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 03:34 PM
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22. The Difference Is That
Italy is giving no special favors to Americans to immigrate to Italy, however,
the U.S. is giving special favors to Indians to immigrate to the U.S.
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ryanmuegge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 01:12 PM
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21. Those Clintons are really candidates of the people, I tell you.
Friends of the working class, no doubt.
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OhioChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-04-07 09:24 PM
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2. .......
Micron's Reponse to Worker Claims of India Outsourcing

CBS 2 Eyewitness News asked a Micron spokesperson about worker claims that IT jobs are going to India.
Here's the company's repsonse:

“This is a challenging time for Micron. The global markets that our products are sold into have experienced severe oversupply and price degradation. Because of this, Micron is pursuing a number of initiatives to drive greater cost efficiencies and revenue growth across our operations. This is a process that we have been working through, and it will take time.

As part of this process and in line with these initiatives, we’ve determined that some workforce reductions in certain areas of the company will occur as we realign the business. Combined with our previous reductions, these new reductions account for about 10 percent of our workforce in the Treasure Valley. In instances where employees are affected by workforce reductions, we are doing everything we can to help with the transition, including providing severance and outplacement services. In some cases, affected employees are also being offered positions at other Micron sites, including Boise.

Additional changes, including the evaluation of functions more efficiently performed through partnerships or other outside relationships, will come over time as the company works through them. Workforce reductions are always difficult, but these initiatives are being pursued to support the longterm global viability and competitiveness of Micron.”

http://www.2news.tv/news/local/10956336.html
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-04-07 09:35 PM
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4. I know, stop making more units than people are going to buy!
:dunce:

Okay, cynicism aside, I do appreciate their response.

Still, "globalization" is about expansion and not migration. What Micron is doing is clearly migration.

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TheFarseer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-04-07 10:05 PM
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7. the asshole in charge of Micron PC once said
Edited on Sun Nov-04-07 10:06 PM by TheFarseer
(can't remember his name) but he said about a year ago that he'd never have to hire another American worker.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-04-07 10:15 PM
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10. I bet he partakes in a lot of tax loopholes as well.
That's sad, his statement...
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antigop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-04-07 10:52 PM
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11. 2004: US Senate launches India caucus --- Clinton and Cornyn co-chairs
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/3672821.stm


A powerful new group has been launched by United States senators to further strengthen ties with India.

The bipartisan Senate India Caucus has an initial 32 members in the 100-strong upper house, including Hillary Clinton.

The leading aims of the caucus are to promote economic ties and strengthen co-operation on terrorism and nuclear proliferation issues.

It will also cover matters affecting Indian Americans, a population thought to number around two million.

'Birthday gift'

The group will be co-chaired by Mrs Clinton, a Democrat, and Republican Senator John Cornyn.
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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 09:36 AM
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13. "promote economic ties"
More like "carry the water for offshore-a-thon corporations, increase the visa cap and create the two-class society CEO Utopia".

Small wonder why I will refuse to vote for her in any election. Hillary is WRONG on this issue on every level.
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OhioChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 11:01 AM
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14. A Vote For HRC is
like shooting yourself in the foot. Why vote for someone who is all for shipping your job overseas?
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antigop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 11:32 AM
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15. Because people don't think their jobs are at risk.....n/t
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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 12:20 PM
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16. People think . . . poorly.
I read somewhere that by 2015, anywhere between 15 and 40 million jobs could be at risk if this unbridled corporatist practice continues unabated.

I don't like those numbers, and neither should any working class American voter.

Jobs moving overseas isn't just something that happens to blue collar workers. It can happen to ANY of us. If it's done behind a PC, it can be moved. And if not moved, it can be inshored.

I absolutely cannot STAND people who call themselves Democrats that are under some delusion that this issue doesn't matter or this isn't as serious as people make it out to be.
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antigop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 12:25 PM
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17. " I absolutely cannot STAND people who call themselves Democrats..."
Yep.

And some of them are run are running for President.
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antigop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 12:28 PM
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18. Blinder's testimony to Joint Economic Committee: up to 29% of US jobs are offshorable
http://www.tpmcafe.com/blog/warrenreports/2007/feb/12/offshoring_and_inequality


You probably didn’t notice Princeton economist Alan Blinder’s testimony to the Joint Economic Committee a few weeks ago, but Blinder has peered into the future and identified a crisis that’s just waiting to explode. It’s called offshoring – the movement of jobs or business processes to other countries. So far offshoring has only touched a few areas – manufacturing notable among them – but Blinder thinks that up to 29% of American jobs are offshorable, including many service-industy jobs. Even if only half those jobs go overseas, that’s a crisis of epic proportions.
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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 12:56 PM
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20. I remember reading Blinder's article . ..
. . . and also the backlash and derision he received from fellow economists (read: Robber Baron apologists) and pro-free-trade/anti working class idiots after it came out. Oh gee, how DARE he make light of a genuine problem to the masses you all are trying to keep in line!

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Megahurtz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 03:40 PM
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23. This Unbridled Corpratist Practice WILL Continue
Edited on Mon Nov-05-07 03:41 PM by Megahurtz
unless we get Dennis Kucinich elected as President.
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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 12:53 PM
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19. Remember, we're "not in favor of putting up fences".
:sarcasm:
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Buns_of_Fire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 09:24 AM
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12. But remember, we're getting all those yummy juicy mangoes!
They make an excellent side dish to that bowl of Gravy Train!

US and India seal nuclear accord
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