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TechBear_Seattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 12:18 PM
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Aussie scientists make diabetes breakthrough
Source: Australian Broadcasting Corporation

Australian researchers have pinpointed a key cause of type 2 diabetes, in a study they say has brought them closer to developing a simpler, more effective treatment for the disease.

The scientists at Sydney's Garvan Insititute say their discovery is a major step forward in the treatment of the disease, which affects about 7 per cent of Australia's population.

The team has identified an enzyme in diabetics as the active agent that blocks the production of insulin, which is a hormone that helps the pancreas convert blood-sugar into energy.

Current treatments try to control insulin levels but do not address the reasons why insulin production is failing.

Read more: http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2007/10/04/2050657.htm



As someone who's been living with Type 2 diabetes for 9 years, and who has had family members die of complications from Type 2 diabetes, let me say: This is BIG news.
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Ellen Forradalom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 12:21 PM
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1. God bless the Aussies
It was an Aussie who stumbled on lithium for bipolar disorder, if I recall correctly.

My dad had type-2 diabetes. A step forward in understanding it is huge. Let's hope this leads to a treatment quickly!
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northernsoul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 12:25 PM
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2. Great!
This is good news all around.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 12:29 PM
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3. Gotta love that socialized medicine
Freed from the necessity of fattening CEOs and stockholders, they're allowed to put extra money into pure research.
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cstanleytech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 06:36 PM
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16. It has its downsides as well I'm sure
though I really think we should have a national health care plan in the US that every US citizen can afford regardless of income level as well as access to atleast basic prescription medicines.
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northzax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 07:23 PM
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17. Hello, non sequitor
The Garvan Institute is a non-profit doing research, of which the US has hundreds.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 07:38 PM
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18. Exactly, funded by NIH grants, again socialized medicine
The point is that for profit medicine is parasitic and contributes relatively little compared to its enormous cost.
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Az Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 12:30 PM
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4. Recently diagnosed
Edited on Fri Oct-05-07 12:42 PM by Az
So yeah. But then big news like this seems to pop up every now and then on the diabetes fight and comes to nothing. Here's hoping big pharma doesn't seek a way to convert this to treatment rather than cure.

on edit: Fixed typo
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TechBear_Seattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 12:35 PM
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5. Why would you want a treatment rather than a cure?
Methinks you got the two backwards. :hi:
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Az Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 12:41 PM
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6. Dropped the n't
from doesn't. My bad.
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kineneb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 12:46 PM
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7. good news but too late to help Hubby
he was diagnosed with Type II in 1990, and was told he had probably had it for about 8 years. The damage had already been done.

His diabetes lead to...
-retinopathy
-cataracts
-renal failure (dialysis)

I do hope that some day we can diagnose potential patients and prevent them from developing diabetes.
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Scout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 01:00 PM
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8. can't be true....
"The team has identified an enzyme in diabetics as the active agent that blocks the production of insulin, which is a hormone that helps the pancreas convert blood-sugar into energy.


'cuz we all KNOW that Type II diabetics only got that way because they are stupid and lazy and let themselves get fat :sarcasm:

this is good news!
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 01:17 PM
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9. fantastic.
of course, America is being outdone at all levels of research, since mr. bush has destroyed our science and technology efforts.
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 01:23 PM
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10. Personally I believe it is an auto-immune condition
caused by antibodies attacking the pancreas (??) Chronic fatigue, fibromyalgia, hashimoto's thyroid, graves disease, etc. are ALL endocrine disorders, as is Type 2 diabetes. Nobody really seems to understand the HPT axis. Sure hope this triggers more research!

Good news. :hi:
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TechBear_Seattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 02:57 PM
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11. That is Type I diabetes (Diabetes primer for those who are interested)
Edited on Fri Oct-05-07 02:58 PM by TechBear_Seattle
Diabetes mellitus is where glucose accumilates in the bloodstream, causing a lot of problems. Complications of diabetes includes: slow wound healing, greatly increased chance of bacterial infection, suceptibility to viral infections, kidney failure, blindness, degeneration of nerve cells and a nearly 200% increase in the risk of heart attack, stroke and other cardio-vascular problems. Between slow wound healing, nerve damage and the increased risk of infection, it is not uncommon for a person with severe diabetes to get an injury (typically on the foot) and not be able to feel the pain. Without that warning, the wound goes untreated, and the increased threat of infection can lead to gangrene so advanced that by the time the person realizes something is wrong, amputation is the only possible treatment.

Diabetes is actually a symptom, not the cause. Nearly all causes of diabetes falls into one of two categories: Type I and Type II.

When a person eats, all carbohydrates eventually get turned into a sugar called glucose. It is a very energetic molecule, which is why most animal life on the planet has evolved to use it. A percentage of this glucose is released immediately into the blood stream; the rest gets bound together with fat to create a molecule called glycogen. When the level of glucose in the blood gets too low, the liver unravels glycogen and releases more glucose, keeping up a steady supply during the day.

As glucose levels in the blood rise, cells called the islets of Langerhans (ioL) in the pancreas begin to secrete insulin. Insulin is a carrier hormone. One end of the molecule is bent into a shape that "grabs on" to a glucose molecule when the two meet in the blood stream. When insulin "catches" a glucose, it gets bent into a slightly different shape; now, the other end is triggered to "grab on" to a cell receptor. When a cell wants more glucose, it will put out these receptors and basically fish for glucose. When a filled insulin molecule hits one of these receptors it will latch on and the cell drags everything in. The insulin is broken down into amino acids and recycled while the glucose is used for fuel.

Type I diabetes is where the islets of Langerhans are damaged or destroyed, resulting in too little insulin being produced. Usually this damage is caused by the body's own immune system destroying the ioL, typically in early childhood. Most of the remaining cases occur in old age, as a result of the body's general deterioration. The remaining cases of Type I diabetes can be blamed on some other condition which has affected the ioL or to a very rare genetic condition where the islets never develop or are improperly formed. Type I is typically treated by injecting insulin shortly before every meal as well as by food management. Type I diabetes accounts for about 5% of all cases of diabetes in the United States.

Type II diabetes is where the body does not use the insulin that is present. Typically, a person with Type II produces too much insulin and cells have stopped "fishing" for it. While obesity has been strongly linked to Type II there are many people with this type of diabetes who have been lean their entire life, and many people who are obese and never develop Type II. There is evidence that Type II and some kinds of obesity may be co-symptoms of a common cause; several studies have shown this cause to be a high glycemic diet (ie a diet with lots of foods which cause a sharp, sudden spike in blood sugar with a parallel sharp, sudden spike in insulin levels.) Usually, Type II is treated with food management, exercize, weight loss and medications which either impede the production of insulin or encourage cells to take up more insulin. Most of the 95% of all cases of diabetes in the United States which are not Type I are Type II. (There are some very rare forms of diabetes mellitus which are neither Type I nor Type III.)

So called "gestational diabetes" is a sub-type of Type II. It is caused by hormonal changes in some pregnant women which lead to insulin resistance. When these changes reverse after giving birth, the diabetes fades as well and the metabolism returns to normal.

If this study pans out, it marks the first time we have observed the mechanism -- or at least one of the mechanisms -- which cause insulin resistance. That is what makes this such a significant breakthrough. The first possibility is for medications which reduce insulin resistance itself; the second (and much hoped for) is an actual cure for Type II.
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KT2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 07:52 PM
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19. Thanks for this explanation
My 60 year old doctor was taught in medical schhol that diabetes was a rare illness. Now it is rampant.
I would hope that researchers use the clue of gestational diabetes to examine the role of hormones and the possible role of hormone mimicing chemicals in our food and environment.
Diabetes is known to affect people exposed to high levels of dioxin, as in the Agent Orange vets.
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-07-07 09:03 AM
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21. I was told by endo that because I have Hashimotos
(autoimmune thyroiditis) hypothyroidism that my chances of developing other AI diseases (Type II diabetes) was much higher. Lovely, eh?

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Sukie1941 Donating Member (463 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 04:56 PM
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12. Great News!
I am struggling to change my ways to adapt to Diabetes Type 2 which I got after age 60. So hard to change the lifestyle.
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 05:23 PM
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13. I'm so glad it's the Aussies doing this (diabetes breakthrough). Resulting
treatments might actually make it to the people who need it most--a class of which I'm a member--something not likely to happen in the land of big pharmacy, ever-expanding monopolies & the declining dollar.
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 05:45 PM
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14. can't wait. Metformin isn't bad but anything must be better.
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cutlassmama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-07-07 07:58 PM
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22. I have to take ActosPlus (sp?) Metforim because just Metformin
didn't work for me. It's expensive. Not only that it makes me tired and I get dizzy. Still having to check my blood sugar levels all the time is a pain, as well as my fingers are becoming rough from all the needle sticks. It would be nice to treat the cause and not just the symptoms.

And I'm really, really glad it has nothing to do with weight. I'm tired of people telling me it's weight when my birth siblings have it too.
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-07-07 08:03 PM
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23. I am sorry, but I don't think anyone is making the claim it has
nothing to do with weight.
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-07-07 10:55 PM
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24. After the medicare part d scam I had to discontinue all the medication
I could no longer afford. The upside was that after going off Avandia, my chest pains disappeared and I dropped around fifty pounds in 9 months, which has obviously alleviated a few other symptoms.
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FloridaJudy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 06:28 PM
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15. I thought that in Type II diabetes
The body made plenty of insulin, but that the target organs failed to respond to it correctly. Isn't that why it's called "insulin resistant" diabetes? So why would "not blocking" insulin production help?

My brain hurts.
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 08:11 PM
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20. Not exactly so.
Edited on Fri Oct-05-07 08:11 PM by lizzy

"Type 2 diabetes is the most common form of diabetes. In type 2 diabetes, either the body does not produce enough insulin or the cells ignore the insulin."

http://www.diabetes.org/type-2-diabetes.jsp
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camero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-08-07 12:10 AM
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25. Just goes to prove there's so much misinformation about diabetes out there
Type I is mostly diagnosed in people with and antibody called GAD-Anti-Glutamic-Decarboxylate. This antibody destroys the beta cells in the pancreas. Also there is no c-peptide production in the body. C-peptide is the waste byproduct of insulin production.

Type II's are generally diagnosed in patients without the antibody and some c-peptide but with higher levels of insulin resistance. Beta cell function is still intact. All type II can become type I diabetes without treatment but it is not known at this point the process involved in the awakening of the antibody but that High BG leads to beta cell burnout.

http://www.diabetesincontrol.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=2068

http://www.diabetesincontrol.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=2885

http://www.diabetesincontrol.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=2922
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