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54anickel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-04 10:34 PM
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Bush Makes Good On Promise (Starve the beast)
http://www.commonvoice.com/article.asp?colid=785

President George W. Bush is beginning to make good on his promise to pursue and fund faith-based initiatives in an effort to deal with many of the social ills that plague this nation. With so many divorces and marriages on the brink of collapse in this country, the primary victims of this debacle are the children who must endure emotional distress and pain. This is the main reason for President Bush’s push towards implementing and funding faith-based programs.

Health and Human Services Secretary Tommy Thompson proclaimed last Thursday that more than $2.2 million will be transferred from its child support programs to a variety of religious and nonprofit organizations to help deal with the problem of deadbeat dads and struggling families. In fact, one-fourth of this money will be specifically used to help educate and promote the importance of having strong marriages for the benefit of the children of the broken relationships who are usually forgotten.

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....This is an important first step towards eliminating government-sponsored social programs forever.

Essentially, these one-time and short-term government funds will act as a starting point for transferring many social services from the control of the government to the private sector. As many government programs begin to be phased out, President Bush will be able to cut taxes for all Americans even further. As a result, this will allow hard working Americans to keep even more of their own money!

Before long, these private social programs will become self-sufficient because the American people will be eager to share a portion of the extra money they have in their pockets to help sustain these necessary programs. Best of all, the government will be completely out of the picture for good (politics aside, even the staunchest critic of President Bush should applaud this likely possibility!).

:puke:
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barbaraann Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-04 10:40 PM
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1. I wonder if Jimmy Swaggert will be getting some money to
help people with their struggling families.


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The Zanti Regent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-04 11:22 PM
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7. Once upon a time the GOP promised a car in every garage...
...now they promise that every preacher will get a taxpayer-funded Rolls Royce!
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-04 10:44 PM
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2. One fourth of the money wasted to discuss strong marriages
Edited on Tue Jan-06-04 10:45 PM by leesa
This is pure crap. Fundie christians divorce rate is quite high isn't it? They have no capability for rational thought.
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Corgigal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-04 10:48 PM
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3. Looks like the Preacher Man
is going to be able to afford his mistress after all. In this part of the nation they are considered rock stars with all the trappings.

Like this is going to help anyone..HA.
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54anickel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-04 10:52 PM
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4. Personally, I give a rats butt about the separation of church and state
issue, that's a dfferent argument. The problem I DO have is this whole idea of privatization.

"starting point for transferring many social services from the control of the government to the private sector."

"the American people will be eager to share a portion of the extra money they have in their pockets to help sustain these necessary programs."

What many social services?
What American people? Surely not the well to do who find these programs a waste of their TAX money, much less their OWN!
The rest of us will not be able to afford to help these programs survive, as we will be struggling to survive ourselves.
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EV1Ltimm Donating Member (831 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-04 11:00 PM
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5. i like the way they relegate jesus to prozac status.
"Sad? Depressed? Lonely? Is your marriage teetering on the edge of an abyss filled with nothing but illicit drug use and sins of the flesh? Then ask your clergyman if jesus may be right for you. Findings show that one dose of jesus once every week increased the levels of complacency in 85% more people than sugar pill."
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-04 07:55 AM
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14. Hahaha - good one.
Religion is a drug.
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cosmicdot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-04 11:01 PM
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6. although there may be a major ramping up ...
... there's already been a good deal of this to date ...

:puke: is right

"This is the main reason for President Bush’s push towards implementing and funding faith-based programs."

I don't think so.
I doubt if his rich friends care about the separation of church and state.


http://www.whitehouse.gov/government/fbci/grants-catalog-index.html

just from the Dept. of Labor

Below are past grants that provide examples of what the grant process is like. Though the deadlines for these grants have passed, they may be helpful for understanding the type of activities the Department of Labor funds and what the grant application process requires.

ETA Announces the Availability of Grant Funds for Technical Skills Training Grants for Business Partnerships (Deadline: September 22, 2003)
HUD Announces Funding for Enhancement of Neighborhood Networks (Deadline: September 12, 2003)
ILAB Announces Grants to Combat HIV/AIDS in Ugandan Workplaces (Deadline: August 22, 2003)
ODEP Announces New Grant to Combat Chronic Homelessness (Deadline: August 20, 2003)
Women's Bureau Announces Grants for Women in Apprenticeship and Nontraditional Occupations (Deadline: August 11, 2003)
ODEP Announces Intermediary Grants for Mentoring Youth with Disabilities (Deadline: July 28, 2003)
HHS Announces Compassion Capital Fund Grants (Deadline: July 28, 2003)
ODEP Announces Customized Employment Program Grants (Deadline: July 21, 2003)
ODEP Announces High School/High Tech State Development and Implementation Grants (Deadline: July 21, 2003)
ODEP Announces Grant Opportunities Under "Working for Freedom, Opportunity and Real Choice Through Community Employment (WorkFORCE)" Initiative (Deadline: July 14, 2003)
ODEP Announces Grants for Home Modifications (Deadline: July 14, 2003)
OSHA Accepting Grant Solicitations for the Susan Harwood Training Grants Program (Deadline: July 3, 2003)
Bureau of International Labor Affairs (ILAB) Publishes a Solicitation for Cooperative Agreement Applications to Combat Child Labor Through Education in Benin, Brazil, Burkina Faso, Cambodia, and Mali (Deadline: June 20, 2003)
USDA Announces Rural Business Opportunity Grants with Economic Development Focus (Deadline: June 2, 2003)
ETA Announces a Grant Competition for Operating the National Farm Worker Jobs Program and Housing Assistance for Migrant and Seasonal Farm Workers (Deadline: May 16, 2003)
ETA issues new grants for intermediaries and grassroots faith-based and community organizations.
Intermediary Grants (Deadline: April 4, 2003)
Grants for Small Grassroots Organizations (Deadline: April 4, 2003)

ETA administers a $342 million grant competition for the Senior Community Services Employment Programs (Deadline: February 6, 2003)


Department of Labor Announces $2.4 Million to Help Employ People with Disabilities
ETA SGA For States Integrating Faith-Based Organization (FBOs) and Community Based Organizations (CBOs) — Federal Register (text) (Deadline: May 16, 2002)
ETA SGA For States Integrating Faith-Based Organization (FBOs) and Community Based Organizations (CBOs) — Federal Register (PDF) (Deadline: May 16, 2002)


ETA SGA For Intermediary Organizations Working with FBOs/CBOs — Federal Register (text) (Deadline: May 17, 2002)
ETA SGA For Intermediary Organizations Working with FBOs/CBOs — Federal Register (PDF) (Deadline: May 17, 2002)


ETA SGA For Small Grassroots FBOs/CBOs — Federal Register (text) (Deadline: May 20, 2002)
ETA SGA For Small Grassroots FBOs/CBOs — Federal Register (PDF) (Deadline: May 20, 2002)

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LastLiberal in PalmSprings Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-04 02:59 AM
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8. It's also about buying votes
If your church is getting money from the federal government, are you going to vote for a candidate who promises to restore church-state separation and take those funds away?
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PurityOfEssence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-04 03:42 AM
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9. Yep, get the kids young
If you shove enough belief down a starving kid's throat, you've got 'em for life. Just make sure it's reminded that good only comes from the big Sky Chief, without whom all would be dismal and wretched.

I know, let's just go straight for the gusto: make 'em beg for their supper. They can jump for their morsels like a puppy, or better yet, recite sacred verses for their food. Only the goodly and godly will dispense to the little waifs, so only faith will be seen as decent.

The utter hypocrisy is astonishing: they promise that there will be no faith or convertin' going on when serving the needy, even though Junior claims that accepting the lordy was the only thing that saved him from a life of drunken frolic. The active component is precisely that which they promise to remove from the mix, and even though that somehow smacks of the classic Republican blundering, does anyone believe it for a minute?
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-04 05:32 AM
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10. People that believe the private sector will cure social ills ...
haven't read much history.
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cap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-04 05:46 AM
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11. the catholic church was social services in RI during the ...
Great Depression. They tried hard but were completely overwelmed.
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R Hickey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-04 05:57 AM
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12. Those people haven't read much Dickens' either
Bush thinks Skrooge was so generous that Tiny Tim grew up to become a world-class tap-dancer.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-04 06:46 AM
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13. Why can't the links to this article be accessed?
I would like to know how many social programs, and what they are that is being phased out by junior.
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-04 08:02 AM
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15. A bunch of neo-con propaganda. (n/t)
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54anickel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-04 01:18 PM
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16. According to this, it's related to PNAC - spooky stuff
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Front_Page/EL24Aa01.html

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To understand its dimensions and the way it works, Barry and the IRC (for which this author has written articles for compensation) compare it to a spider's web - hence the name of their latest Internet website, Right Web, probably the most comprehensive and integrated effort yet to link the various connections and relationships that have given the "Right" its power and influence.

The site, which is still being developed, covers some 175 individuals and dozens of organizations that have constituted the network over the past quarter-century. Even a brief meander through the site demonstrates both just how small and incestuous this network has been and how ambitious are its goals, both in foreign and domestic policy.

Chances are, for example, that you have never heard of the Foundation for Community, Faith-Centered Enterprise, an innocent-sounding initiative that suggests church-based community organizing or perhaps a philanthropic group that awards grants to church-related business initiatives. In fact, the foundation and its sister group, Americans for Community and Faith-Centered Enterprise, were founded in mid-2001 by Michael Joyce, a right-wing kingpin who helped turn the Bradley Foundation into the rainmaker of an ever-growing network of institutes, publications and think-tanks.


Check out the website: http://rightweb.irc-online.org/index.html
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