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Faygo Kid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 04:17 PM
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McCain: Bush right to veto kids health insurance expansion
Edited on Wed Oct-03-07 04:18 PM by faygokid
Source: CNN

Sen. John McCain, R-Arizona, told CNN Wednesday he agrees with President Bush's veto of legislation expanding a children's health insurance program, saying the bill provided a "phony smoke and mirrors way of paying for it.

"Right call by the president," the Republican White House hopeful told CNN's John King. "We've laid a debt on these same children ... that we're saying we're going to give health insurance to. . .

"The American people have rebelled against out-of-control spending. If they can find a legitimate way to pay for it, I would consider it," he said.



Read more: http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/10/03/mccain.interview/index.html#cnnSTCText



It IS paid for, you loser, and it's not through "smoke and mirrors." How are kids going to grow up to fight in all the wars you have planned for us if they don't get health care now?

McCain is a loser. He needs to go away, and Jon Stewart ought to keep his fraudulent, sorry, right-wing ass off his too-many appearances on "The Daily Show," too.

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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 04:20 PM
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1. Why is it OK to spend a TRILLION on unjust illegal wars and OCCUPATION but not OK
to fund and spend programs to help people? Oh yeah because helping people does nothing to further enrich the 1/2 of 1% who own the capital and the politicians.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 04:22 PM
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3. Yup, exactly... not enough profit for their crony buddies.
Shameless... and sickening that repuke voters eat this swill up.
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 04:52 PM
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10. God will bring lightening strikes on Bush and now McCain!
punishment
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 02:04 PM
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59. They are so Pretty together
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Kikosexy2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 06:08 PM
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18. Is there anyone...
really listening to Insane McCain anymore???...does he matter at all?...let's move on...he's irrevelant...no credibility...Look Rudy's in drag again...
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 06:29 PM
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MissB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 07:00 PM
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27. You already know the $80k figure is wrong.
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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 07:04 PM
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29. Everyone in this country should have HealthCARE. It should have NOTHING to do
with income. By the Ware that 80K thing was withdrawn anyway it is another straw man argument.
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Donnachaidh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 04:22 PM
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2. McCain's reaching out to that greedy, grasping, whiny BASE of the thugs
Edited on Wed Oct-03-07 04:22 PM by Donnachaidh
Why should anyone else have something I *already* have. Have I said how much I *hate* these people lately?
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 04:22 PM
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4. and yet he turns a bling eye to the huge expense of occupying Iraq
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subsuelo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 07:09 PM
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34. I can't stand when Democrats say "Oh McCain's not that bad"
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kysrsoze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 04:27 PM
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5. Leave it to that ass-licking sycophant to parrot the words of the most selfish @ss on earth
All guns, no butter. Prick.
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Kool Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 04:27 PM
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6. Another selfish asshole.
You can rot in hell with your buddy Bush, too. Plenty of money to kill people, not enough to help keep children healthy.
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 04:30 PM
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7. McCain has turned into a frightful abomination....
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dickbearton Donating Member (577 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 06:55 PM
Response to Reply #7
26. McCain seems to have a rotting of the brain...
I hope this is not an unfortunate result of his war time
captivity; but it could be.
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 07:00 PM
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28. I don't think that has anything to do with it to be
honest. He is trying to win the nomination of a disgusting political party that admires greed and believes in social darwinism.
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nodehopper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 07:08 AM
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43. when was he anything but? politically, I mean.
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 08:14 AM
Response to Reply #43
47. McCain
has changed quite a bit in the last 6 years imo. Not interested in debating it though.
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Nite Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 04:36 PM
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8. He really thinks that
continuing to side with * will get him points? A thirty percent President still has a following for more of the same?

I hope they all do this, it will so assure a dem win!
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thetaoofterri Donating Member (157 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 04:44 PM
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9. What the hell is with these people?
When are these guys going to pull their heads out of their asses! All I can do is shake my head. Nearly every single damn day, I shake my head about something, then sit down and email my congressmen.
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durablend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 05:08 PM
Response to Reply #9
12. Never
Don't beat your head against the wall--they're NOT going to wake up. As everyone knows, Republicans are NEVER wrong
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 05:40 PM
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14. It's their economic idiotology. do a wiki on neoliberalism...
And before someone craps about it...NEOLIBERALISM IS NOT A POLICY OF THE LEFT. It's the name given to the free-rein economic polices of folks like Thatcher and Reagan.


From wiki...
Policies Advanced by Neoliberalism
The definitive statement of the concrete policies advocated by neoliberalism is often taken to be John Williamson's "Washington Consensus" , a list of policy proposals that appeared to have gained consensus approval among the Washington-based international economic organizations (like the IMF and World Bank). These reforms are described by Dani Rodrik as:

Fiscal rectitude, meaning that governments would cut expenditures and/or raise taxes to maintain a budget surplus

Competitive exchange rates, whereby governments would accept market-determined exchange rates, as opposed to implemented government-fixed exchange rates, as had prevailed under the Bretton Woods System

Free trade, which means the removal of trade barriers, like tariffs, subsidies, and regulatory trade barriers

Privatization, which means the transfer of previously-public-owned enterprises, goods, and services to the private sector.

Undistorted market prices, meaning that governments would refrain from policies that would alter market prices.

Limited intervention, with the exception of intervention designed to promote exports, some kinds of education or infrastructural development
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Middle finga Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 05:06 PM
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11. This guy really creeps me out I can't even stand to watch him
anymore. I bet the CNN interviewer didn't bother to confront him about the money we're waisting on the occupation.
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matt819 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 05:31 PM
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13. We've laid a debt on these children
Excuse me, but somehow I think the 800,000,000,000 dollars spent in Iraq is a debt on our children and our children's children, etc. And for what? If asked, I don't think these kids (certainly not their parents) would have much objection to programs that keep their kids healthy.
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TexasBushwhacker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 05:58 PM
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15. Why is he still in the race?
Does he think that somehow this will breathe life into the rotting corpse of his campaign?
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Barrett808 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 06:02 PM
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16. Maybe specifically to shill for Bush...
...doubt it will work.
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 06:03 PM
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17. Yeah. Plus it might put a crimp on WAR spending
YEEEEEHAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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AllyCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 06:10 PM
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19. Isn't McCain in like last place on the Repuke candidate list?
Edited on Wed Oct-03-07 06:13 PM by AllyCat
He's just awful. I mean, the whole lot of them is awful, but he just takes the cake. Oh wait, I forgot, he already did that with Ole Shrub for his birthday while NOLA drowned.

(Dang, can't link the photo on this 'puter at work. Oh well, maybe someone can do it...you know which one I mean).
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 06:14 PM
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20. If bu$h shit in McCain's mouth...
he would proclaim it was a great thing.
His nose is so far up bu$h's ass they should ask him if bu$h has a heart.
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BlueStater Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 06:18 PM
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21. It figures he would chime in
He's little more than that moron's bitch nowadays. Pathetic.
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 06:21 PM
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22. I'm ashamed for my Nation that cretins such as McCain and Bush
Edited on Wed Oct-03-07 06:22 PM by tabasco
occupy high offices. It is an indictment of our society that this came to pass.
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makhno Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 06:26 PM
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23. What a shame
For someone who put his balls on the line for his country, to end his life like that and forever be remembered as a tool, not a hero. A damn shame.
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dickbearton Donating Member (577 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 07:05 PM
Response to Reply #23
30. The way he stands behind the Criminal Bush...
after the way they treated him, he looks like a case of the
Stockholm Syndrome.
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makhno Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 07:28 PM
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36. I just don't understand
Could it be that the man really believes this shit?

I can't fathom why a popular, successful, wealthy US Senator would stoop so low as to proclaim that spending $35B on children's health was somehow detrimental to the country's well-being, when the sum is peanuts compared to whatever pork he'd voted on over the years.

Our times are like a bad acid trip ...
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nickinSTL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 06:39 PM
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25. the Germans have it right...
there is a really unflattering (for Bush) headline at Der Spiegel online : Bush stoppt Hilfen für arme Kinder - translated, means : Bush stops help for poor children.

http://www.spiegel.de/

Not a headline you'd be likely to see in the US.
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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 07:05 PM
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31. That is an excellent argument
for cutting funding for the war in Iraq.

But not for children's health insurance.



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Grandrose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 07:06 PM
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32. McCain is unhinged!
When and why did he turn into a Bush clone....good grief!:puke:
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 07:06 PM
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33. Stockholm syndrome
He's intimately familiar with this kind of thing, you know....

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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 07:15 PM
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35. Na Na Na Na, Na Na Na Na, Hey Hey Hey.... Goodbye...
He can't possibly think that is the right position to take...
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IsItJustMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 07:56 PM
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37. All respect is gone out the window for this guy. Bush says bend over and McCain asks how far.
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kurth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 08:09 PM
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38. Looks like McCain never left Bush's sphincter
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KAZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 08:20 PM
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39. Buh-bye John. Let me smash the door into your ass
on the way out. Dick with ears.
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Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 03:57 AM
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40. I'd say ouch, but his Presidential ambitions were dead months ago.
Edited on Thu Oct-04-07 03:57 AM by Mojambo
I can only hope that the front runners will take a similar position. The Democrats can (and should) turn this into a giant sucking wound for the Republicans in 08.

The Republicans opposing this thing are so incredibly tone deaf to what's going on with middle class America... If people are fully enabled to vote in 08, the GOP might just be obliterated.
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ngant17 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 04:31 AM
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41. If war is "death-care", we've been subsidizing it
from the very beginning of the history of the USA.

There is always money in America for 'death-care', always money for bombings, destruction, massacres, prisons and everything that is ugly and horrible in this world.

Let's evaporate the money for death-care and start subsidizing 'life and health care' for a change.

I think every politician who votes for war should be sprinkled with DU dust every time they vote. And they should be denied any health care for their soon-to-develop terminal cases of cancer until they can start funding for life and health instead of death and destruction. Health care is not just for the rich who can afford it.
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scarface2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 06:26 AM
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42. brilliant john! you are such an asshole
how does he keep getting elected..this is ridiculous!!
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Nickster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 07:29 AM
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44. So what he's really saying is that a vote for him is a vote to continue the Bush Republican ways.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 07:52 AM
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45. "We've laid a debt on these same children ." hey-its called the WAR debt!




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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 07:58 AM
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46. johnny just lost the mommy vote.
plus many of the daddies, too.
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Lost4words Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 08:27 AM
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48. Inept, his brain is total mush, makes * look intelligent!
go away cage boy!
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 08:55 AM
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49. McDrain is this part of your campaign? Heh
LOL :rofl:
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watercolors Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 09:14 AM
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50. Hmmm, does McCain have the same
brain problem Domemici has? He is such a joke! At one time I had a great respect for him, I'm sad to see the man he has become.
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 09:24 AM
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51. McCain Is Going Down In A RIOTOUS BLAZE OF IGNOMINY & IDIOCY!!
:rofl:

Wow. It's an amazing thing to watch. Absolutely spectacular.
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Betty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 09:44 AM
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52. his campaign is already DOA
so why not say any stupid ass thing he feels like? It can't hurt him. If he's so worried about all the debt we're piling on the children, where does the Iraq war fit in? Is he worried about THAT debt?
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 02:07 PM
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60. That's "Righteous Debt" for FREEDOM ON THE MARCH
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 11:12 AM
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53. He continues his man hug love...
the GOP is basically throwing moron* overboard, yet mclame continues is very bizarre senile support.
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coalition_unwilling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 11:14 AM
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54. McCain: Riding the Titanic all the way to the bottom of the ocean -n/t
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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 11:22 AM
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55. And the cow says...
FUCK YOU.

Goddamn you a fucking lapdog, McCain.
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gasperc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 11:30 AM
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56. he needed to arrest his rise in the polls
it was starting to threaten his underdog image

very logically stance on McCain's part. If your an idiot.
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simmonsj811 Donating Member (309 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 12:01 PM
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57. at lease
these kids will be around to pay for it jacka$$
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HuffleClaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 12:15 PM
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58. "out-of-control spending" is not something ANY republican should be talking about
unless it is in reference to the occupation of iraq
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xxqqqzme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 02:30 PM
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61. OK, no more government subsidized
health insurance for mccain & family.

Come on johnny give it up. If it is such a bad idea - then it is a bad dea for everyone.
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