Diana inquest opens, 10 years after her death

[Algorem]

Source: Reuters Canada

Tue Oct 2, 2007 8:05 AM EDT160

By Paul Majendie and Michael Holden

LONDON (Reuters) - An inquest into the death of Princess Diana opened on Tuesday, 10 years after she was killed in a Paris car crash, with her lover's father convinced that the British royal family ordered the killing.

Mohamed al-Fayed, whose son Dodi died in the crash after a much-publicized summer romance with the "people's princess," alleges the couple were killed on the orders of Queen Elizabeth's husband, Diana's former father-in-law.

Al-Fayed, owner of London's luxury Harrods store, fought a long legal battle to have the inquest heard by a judge and jury. London's High Court is expected to spend up to six months deciding if her death was an accident.

"Mohamed al-Fayed has maintained throughout that the crash was not an accident, but murder in furtherance of a conspiracy by the Establishment, in particular his Royal Highness Prince Philip, the Duke of Edinburgh, who used the security services to carry it out," judge Lord Justice Scott Baker said...



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[CottonBear]

1. Mohamed al-Fayed is delusional. I know he mourns for his son but he needs to give it up

and admit that his drunken employee and his son (who chose to let a drunken man drive at high rates of speed and didn't wear a seatbelt) were responsible for the accident. If they'd been wearing seatbelts (like the bodyguard in the front seat) Dodi and Diana would have likely survived.

[Vidar]

2. While I'd dearly like to see the paparazzi involved shot or hung,

I don't give much credence to the royal family being involved.

[anakie]

20. you, of course, are absolutely correct

a mixture of speed, alcohol and no seat belts will just about do it every time.


Peace

[LeighAnn]

24. Maybe not really drunk

Yeah, but the blood taken from the driver had a high amount of carbon monoxide, indicating that it was actually the blood of a suicide victim, and not Henri Paul.

http://archives.cnn.com/2002/WORLD/europe/08/02/diana.paul/

[Baclava]

33. Exactly - the real story is.... Wear your seatbelts!

Not that I care about Royal Blood Lines and all that conspiracy crap anyway.

[defendandprotect]

3. Once again we see the overeagerness to accept official myth ---

Anyone interested should review the information and question authority --
And, in this case again, authority is covering-up

[saracat]

4. Mohammad El Fayed is a self promoting punk who is using his son's death to

establish himself.He is playing the "victim" card after all his efforts to be accepted by "proper" British society failed. He forced his son to date Diana who only wanted to escape somewhere, ironically, that she would be protected.He thought a "relationship" with Diana would burnish his image. It is unlikely Diana had any kind of a "romantic" relationship with Dodi and she never would have married him. She had told friends she was not interested in Dodi and the friendship was "over" along with the vacation. William has stated he did not like Dodi and Diana would never have married anyone her children did not care for. Mohammad El Fayed is a really disgusting person with a bad reputation and a corrupt and criminal past, and most see through him.

[defendandprotect]

7. Yes, obviously, this is benefiting El Fayed -- !!! The family of the driver also contest the . . ..

"evidence" . . . . and there are many other details --

If you want to discuss what friends say, Diana and Dodi bought an "engagement" ring just days before.
The jewelry story confirms this.

I think the children were very young when this happened and it is difficult to handle since they have to survive within the "royal" family --

Meanwhile, I'd encourage anyone who is interested in Diana and the case to hear what Mohammad El Fayed has to say and the evidence that he has gathered--

[saracat]

9. There is no proof that it was an "engagement"ring at all. It

was just one of many jewelry presents that he gave Diana. The children were not that young.They were 12 and 14 or thereabouts.William had been serving, inappropriately it seems, as his mothers confident. According to Diana herself, he handed her tissues under the bathroom door as she cried.I have read the entire Lord's report on this out of curiosity and El Fayed is a truly despicable person and there is very little real"evidence" that this was anything but a drunken driving accident. Once he was proven a liar about the "alleged" pregnancy, and that was proven to be untrue by not only medical evidence but personal testimony regarding her menstrual cycle,he cannot be trusted to be telling any form of the truth. I think El Fayed should be prosecuted as it was his drunken employee driving and his car that they were riding in when the accident took place.The princes should sue El Fayed for wrongful death. I say "enough already". This clown should be not allowed to continue this self promoting circus and Diana should be left in peace. JMHO.

[defendandprotect]

28. That's untrue: The right came from an "engagement series" by jewelers with receipts ---

The children were NOT adults . . .. they were children --

Their mother understood the world and that they would have to understand certain things early on -- about life and the "royals" --

On the other hand, explaining to young children the circumstances of an intimate relationship would be difficult -- especially when one had to admit that Phillip had been in love with someone else while marrying Diana -- and she knew this just before she married him!!!

I think when you begin to call El Fayed "despicable" while defending "royals" and their system, then you are showing yourself to be disingenuous.

Again -- there is every evidence that Henri was not "drunk."
His behavior is visible on camera -- his behavior was obvious at the hotel while he spoke with bodyguards and Diana and Dodi who would have all been aware and concerned if he had been intoxicated.

This will be yet another case which will gain in significance as more of the information that points to more questionable activities than an "accident" as gathered by investigators is more widely known and understood.

[saracat]

29. Whatever.Yawn. Diana was NOT pregnant as El Fayed claims and that has been established.

He is a pathological liar and a fame junkie.Believe what you want. Henri was observed drinking in the bar. It was even on tape. The British bodyguards expressed concern about his intake.Read the Lord's report. It even explains the carbon levels in his blood. This case will never gain in more signifigance as the more it is investigated the more it is proved that nothing is there. Why do you not read the coroners report and the Lord's report instead of the rantings of a self absorbed narcissist? I could care less about the "Royals".I think Charles is a jerk, but the kids seem okay. I could care less about Diana. This whole case is a waste of the British taxpayers money. There have already been three inquests all with the same results. All of El Fayeds accusations were answered. All of them. Nothing to see here.time to move on!

[defendandprotect]

36. We don't know what was reliably "established" when Diana was held in an ambulance . . .

for more than an hour . . . and not taken directly to a hospital.

Again, when you continue personal attacks, your argument fades even more so.

No one in the hotel suggests that Henri was "drunk" -- whatever he may have had at the bar.
And, I believe, that they did interview the bartender.

Had the "bodyguards" been concerned about Henri's "drinking" . . . . they would not have permitted him to drive the car -- would they?????

The blood tests appear to be suspicious, according to Henri's family and others investigating.

There have already been two investigations into the JFK assassination . . . .
and we have not yet totally unmasked the truth there for the public --

i.e.,

"OSWALD WAS EMPLOYED BY THE CIA WORKING ON HIGH LEVEL ASSIGNMENTS AND PROBABLY ALSO FOR THE FBI."

according to the Tunnheim Panel/1992 JFK Classified Records Act

AND . . .

Memorandum by John McCone, director of the CIA

What has been the most accurate in all of these affairs has been independent investigation which has finally brought the truth to the public.

MLK assassination another such affair, now found to be a "conspiracy" by a jury.

[saracat]

40. I read the real reports. Diana was not pregnant and that was established not only by

medical examination of not only her body but testing of her blood found at the scene which did not contain the hormones indicating pregnancy.Additionally Diana had her menstrual cycle the week before as established through the testimony of her best friend with whom she had spent that week.Additionally, the American massage therapist employed by El Fayed on the yacht gave testimony to the fact that the invasive treatment that she provides would not have been performed on a pregnant woman and Diana informed her that she was NOT pregnant, and to proceed. This was the day before the accident.I suggest you read the actual report and not the El Fayed propaganda.

[defendandprotect]

44. You're missing the point of her being held for an hour in an ambulance . . ..

anything could have happened; any procedure could have been performed -- including abortion.

I'd be happy to read your reports; I'll look them up.
Bear in mind I'm not suggesting that she was pregnant -- I am repeating to you what the concerns are.
There are many questions about the delay in taking her to the hospital and the responses are not satisfactory, nor believable. The more that is know about this "accident" the less believable it all is.

Let's also be clear on your personal attacks . . . El Fayed is certainly not looking to make enemies.
Nor is he a delusional man. He is a foreigner standing strongly against a Royal House . . .
not something that is going to be comfortable for anyone.

Diana feared for her life -- she suggested that there were plans to remove her in an auto accident.
She left a note to this affect with one of her trusted aides.

[defendandprotect]

45. And, French medics claim Diana was pregnant ---

QUOTE
French medics from the hospital where the princess died claim she was pregnant at the time of the crash. This would support the belief that Diana and her lover were killed to avoid the royal family's embarrassment at her having a child by a Muslim. UNQUOTE

http://www.geocities.com/northstarzone/DIANA.html

[0007]

34. Ho Hum! What do ya think of WTC 7 dropping down to earth

without being hit? Couldn't this be more of a concern?

[defendandprotect]

37. It's as much of a concern as any other issue of political violence --

the political violence America has suffered, increasing in intensity around our elected officials and those working for peace is also important --

What WTC affair is also urgently important and independent investigators are continuing to analyze what happened. The many questions and challenges re the WTC -- and WTC building 7 are not being satisfactorily responded to. WTC 7 housed SEC records and handicapped many on-going investigations, for one.

[0007]

38. Thank you for the truth!

[lovuian]

31. Bingo

its about time the Inquest happened even though its freakin 10 years after the woman's death

[High Plains]

5. Who gives a rat's ass?

Seriously, why this obsession with a long-dead royal when there are such pressing matters in front of us...like Brittany Spears' custody battle?

[Jax]

6. Her kid Prince Harry said he didn't think they would EVER know

what really happened that night. I will go with his opinion.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19190534/

snip:
"Prince Harry: You know when people think about it they think about her death. They think about you know how wrong it was. They think whatever happened. I don't know, for me personally what happened you know that night, whatever happened in that tunnel -- no one will ever know. And I'm sure people will always think about it the whole time.
Matt Lauer: Have you stopped wondering?
Prince Harry: I'll never stop wondering about that.
Matt Lauer: So then in some ways you probably understand the public fascination with this inquiry.
Prince William: Yeah, but at the same time there's a lot of people feeding it, and unnecessarily, I might add. You know -- to the whole sort of conspiracy side of things. And there's always rumors and stuff that were brought up the whole time."

[defendandprotect]

8. That's what some people said about JFK -- but we do know now . . ..

And, investigators have made clear the links of CIA to RFK's death --
and certainly MLK's death was confirmed as a "conspiracy" with the involvement of government.

and, on and on, we go ---

Diana was hugely dangerous to the MIIC --

[saracat]

10. That is absolutely silly.Diana was dangerous to no one. She was actually

on the downside of public opinion until her death when they reverted back to what they had originally liked about her and Tony Blair crowned her the "Peoples Princess" in a shrewd PR move.

[defendandprotect]

13. Yeah -- the days of mourning by the British and the world spoke to her "unpopularity" -- !!!!

Diana was dangerous -- as Bobby Kenedy and MLK were dangerous -- to the war profiteers --

In particularly, Diana was exposing the harm done by landmines --

American military loves landmines ---

[saracat]

17. You are seriously comparing Diana to RFK and MLK? Please.Get a grip.

I did not say she was "unpopular", just that her popularity had begun to wane a bit until her death which recalled the people to what they had first loved about her.No doubt you now think Heather McCartney was a threat.She is against landmines as well. Sheesh.

[defendandprotect]

25. Even today, Diana continues to be missed, respected and admired ---

I know what you said . . . and I disagree --

Yes -- of course I compare Diana with RFK and MLK --
She was anti-war and anti-weapons --
These are very dangerous positions -- especially if you're someone with a way to speak to the world;
someone admired.

Why do you think that JFK was so dangerous to the elites --???
He called off the Cold War --

And, good for Heather McCartney -- we need more to celebrities to rise -- and stand against war.

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[pitohui]

16. diana was a danger only to herself

a bulimic drama queen who had everything in the world and still managed to be a miserable unhappy person

it takes talent to be that much of a martyr to your own self pity

we know what killed diana, a drunk driver, there is no mystery at all, just people who profit from selling this stupid myth

to put her in the same category as jfk is just mind-boggling

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[goclark]

11. I am reminded of the words " There are WMD"

No WMD

Siran Siran - lone gunman

Kennedy and the grassy knoll people

Lee Harvey Oswald, "Where did you pop up from?"

Seems it's always easier to believe what the government wants us to believe.

I refuse to accept everything the government tells me to believe.

And, GWB won in 2000 and 2004 --- sure he did. :sarcasm:

[defendandprotect]

14. Love your . . . .

:sarcasm:

[Chovexani]

15. I don't care what anyone says

I still think somebody had her killed.

[BooScout]

18. What a waste of money, time and effort....

And no one gives a shit either.

[T_i_B]

32. "And no one gives a shit either."

Except for the Daily Express, who love using Diana to try and flog newspapers, even though she's been pushing up daisies for 10 years now.

[allisonthegreat]

39. Some people still do care

I tend to agree with Harry
. We will never know the truth.

[Algorem]

21. of course she was in the way of Charles and whatsherhorseface.

they had been galloping,I mean gallovanting,around for decades,he wanted to tie the lasso,I mean knot.that's probably just a partial motive though.




thet do have a lot of butlers over there.maybe a butler did it.

[dflprincess]

22. Charles and Dianna were divorced - she was not in their way

I've also figured that, if the Royal Family had wanted to murder her, they would have had a car bomb planted and blamed the Irish.

[pitohui]

23. of course you are correct princess

alas there is no arguing with people during silly season

charles did not murder this woman, he tolerated her shite a lot longer than i would have if i were in love w. someone else

[raccoon]

48. By George, she's got it! nt

[colorado_ufo]

54. Well, one thing is for certain -

the Royal Family would not have done anything to Diana to aid and abet Camilla's relationship with Charles. The Queen has had to force herself to accept Camilla, since their marriage was inevitable. Whether or not Charles ever sits on the throne (and he could be bypassed), Camilla will never be queen, if there is one last living member of the Royal Family to prevent it.

[defendandprotect]

27. Started today -- keep us posted --

[rAVES]

30. The Royal family have been killing each other all through history

I dont see why the charge is so outlandish...

[0007]

35. The Royal family have royal good times in the Buckingham Palace also.

At least that's what I've read in the 'Pearl'

[noonwitch]

41. Yeah, I read Richard III, too. He killed children so he could be king.

I don't necessarily believe there is a conspiracy behind Diana's death, but I rule nothing out.

The motive, if the royals had her killed, could be her relationship with Dodi. What if she had a kid with him? The heir would have a muslim/arab sibling! At least, that's what my paranoid friend says.

[saracat]

42. Proper historical analysis indicates it was extremely unlikely Richard 111 killed his nephews.

They had already been proven illegitimate due to a prior marriage of Edward, which he failed to disclose in order to marry the Widow Woodville. Richard never had ambitions to be king and accepted the kingship reluctantly.He was appointed Royal protector by his brother only to accede to kingship after indisputable proof of Edward's bigamy. Henry Tudor had far greater reason and opportunity to murder the princes after the death of Richard as they stood in his way.He murdered all other claimants to the Crown so there would have been no reason for him to spare the princes. He had already married their sister in order to strengthen his claim. The character of Richard 111 as concocted by Shakespeare is a myth and a real character assassination of a great king.

[Darth_Kitten]

53. Amen..........

Shakespeare wasn't going to paint the reigning Queen's grandfather as a potential child murderer.

It's never been conclusively proven what happened to those princes. :(

[lovuian]

43. I thinkits going to be great for the Queen to come in and testify

that would be suppin to see

[defendandprotect]

46. Inquest update -- evidently a lot not yet decided -- and distrust of the judge -- !!!

QUOTE . . .

That three-year inquiry, headed by former London police chief John Stevens, dismissed claims that Diana was pregnant and was engaged, or about to get engaged, to Fayed. "On the evidence available now, there was no conspiracy to murder any of the occupants of that car. It was a tragic accident," Stevens said.

However, under British law, an inquest is needed to determine the cause of death when someone dies unnaturally. It cannot apportion blame but can rule that the death was "unnatural" due to violence or an accident.

The police report will be at the centre of the inquest, which resumes on Monday, but Stevens said his findings should not prejudge its conclusions. The inquest has already attracted controversy after Elizabeth Butler-Sloss, who took over last year as the presiding judge, decided initial hearings should be conducted in secret.

She changed her mind after strong criticism from Fayed's father Mohamed, owner of the London store Harrods and the leading advocate of murder conspiracy theories. Preliminary hearings will decide whether inquests into Diana and Fayed's deaths should be held together, whether a jury should be present and if so, who will take part.

Nothing short of a full public inquiry is likely to satisfy Fayed. "I will never accept this cover-up of what really happened," he said after the Stevens report, which he called 'garbage'. "For nine years I have fought against overwhelming odds and monstrous official obstructions. I will not stop now in my quest for the truth."

UNQUOTE

http://www.dnaindia.com/report.asp?newsid=1072864&pageid=2

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[Scairp]

49. This is such bullshit

Give a rest already. Her children deserve for this to be over, yet here we are, ten bloody years later, still having inquests and new video. It's just absurd. Al-Fayed is such an asshole, and should think of HER sons for a change, who lost their mother when they they were still children, instead of continuing this nonsense that Diana was having his son's child and was going to marry him after only a one month relationship. She wasn't the smartest cookie in the jar, but she wasn't so dumb as to do that.

[Love Bug]

50. No matter what the findings, no matter who investigates,

Al-Fayed will never be satisfied until he sees the royals doing a perp walk, which will never happen.

We all like to think celebrities like Diana would never be subject to dying young and in such an ordinary manner as by a drunk driver. She was Diana the Good, Diana the Noble Mother, Poor Diana Who Was Married to the Cheater, Charles. It offended our sense of fairness that someone so beautiful and young would die. It's feelings like this plus our well-earned skepticism of anything government says that helps to keep fueling this debate.

Was Diana pregnant? If she had been given an abortion in the ambulance as has been suggested, the hormones in her blood would have still indicated a pregnancy. She was probably not pregnant. She may or may not have been engaged.

Lets say for argument's sake she was pregnant and engaged to Dodi. Why would the royals have her killed? She was already divorced from Charles and had been forced to give up her royal status (a fate worse than death to them). Any public embarrassment of her new husband would just expose their bigotry. Charles has his heirs and no matter what Diana did, nothing would change that. Had her actions become loony enough, they could have taken the boys away from her and positioned Charles as the 'sane' one, but marrying an eligible man and having his child hardly counts as loony.

Diana was apparently the victim of an unfortunate, but preventable series of circumstances. In this case drunk driver + excessive speed + hounding paparazzi + no seat belts = disaster.

And lets remember this: All any of us know about this is what we've read/heard/seen in the press. The same press that lied about the war, the same press that kissed Bush's ass. "All I know is what I read in the newspapers." is no guarantee of true knowledge, it never was. The findings of the other inquests may be much closer to the truth or may even be the truth, but government lies to us, too. We don't know what happened. We can only speculate and argue.

[defendandprotect]

51. Many questions involving the "accident" . . . . Large flash of light seen in tunnel by witnesses ...

One witness describes someone on a motorcycle weaving in front of the car -- flashing a light at the driver.

Additionally, the driver was forced into the tunnel; his way being blocked.

There are many questions and challenges to the official verdict.
I'd encourage everyone interested in justice to at least look at something other than the official story.

[TrogL]

52. Paprazzi? flash gun?

We know a picture was taken - we've seen it.

[defendandprotect]

56. Well . . . story goes . . ..

And, I haven't had time for this tonight --
there are a lot of interesting links --

but the story is that the lights went off in the tunnel -- highly unusual --
Also the CAMERAS in the tunnel -- and at the entrance to the tunnel were out --

and that Diana's car was cut off from the route they wanted to take and forced into the tunnel.

a witness and his wife said that they saw a motorcyle move in front of the car and there was a huge
flash -- like a strobe light. Lasar Beam? Not a camera.

Also, the white Fiat Uno swerved into the car.

For further oddities -- the car that was used that night had supposedly been stolen only a few days before the incident. Some think that the car was geared for remote control to ensure that the accident would happen.

Also, of course, the long, long, long journey to the hospital is very suspicious, IMO.

[cutlassmama]

57. Right. Too many questionable acts occured.

An ambulance ride should not have taken that long and she should have gone to one of the other two hospitals that were closer. I don't buy their bullshit excuse that they were the only hospital that wasn't full.

[Xenotime]

55. Its about fucking time...

[Algorem]

58. Princess Diana's ex-bodyguard escapes to Iraq

Press Trust of India / London October 7, 2007

http://www.business-standard.com/common/storypage_c_online.php?leftnm=11&bKeyFlag=IN&autono=28398

Trevor Rees Jones, Diana's former bodyguard, who survived the Paris car crash in which the Princess of Wales was killed alongside her boyfriend Dodi Al-Fayed, has escaped to Iraq to get away from the inquest into her death.

Jones, a key witness to the car crash, has taken a private security job in the war-torn country to avoid appearing at the inquest which opened this month, the Sunday Mirror reported here.

"That Trevor is in Iraq is a measure of how much he wants to be out of the way. He doesn't want to be involved in the inquest at all -- he'd rather be dodging bullets," one of Jones' friends said. "Trevor thinks enough has been said about what happened to Diana, and I think he's right. He went through a terrible experience and doesn't like to talk about it. It has scarred him for life."

The 38-year-old is likely to be called to give evidence at the inquest in London's High Court in January...

[krispos42]

59. Well, thank god all of the witnesses are still around..

and have perfect recall. Also that the crime scene has been preserved and the evidence has not decayed or been lost.

:sarcasm: