Giuliani: Clinton smeared Petraeus

[rodeodance]

Source: ap




Giuliani: Clinton smeared Petraeus

By SHANNON McCAFFREY, Associated Press Writer 31 minutes ago

ATLANTA - Republican presidential contender Rudy Giuliani on Thursday accused Democratic rival Hillary Rodham Clinton of participating in "character assassination" for questioning Gen. David Petraeus about his assessment of progress in Iraq.
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Petraeus and U.S. Ambassador Ryan Crocker told Congress Iraq remains largely dysfunctional but said violence in recent months had decreased since the influx of 30,000 additional troops earlier this year.

"The reports that you provide to us really require the willing suspension of disbelief," Clinton said Tuesday.

Campaigning in Georgia, Giuliani assailed Clinton for the second straight day and tried to link her to a newspaper ad from the liberal anti-war group MoveOn critical of Petraeus. The ad accused Petraeus of "cooking the books" for the White House. "General Petraeus or General Betray Us?" it asked, playing off his name.

Read more: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070913/ap_on_el_pr/giuliani_clinton_1;_ylt=AqORenzHWrwauwogspLTnqAb.3QA

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also says: "MoveOn is an independent organization"

[RavensChick]

1. Rudy needs to STFU!

If there's anything that nimrod should be scared of is the day after the election when he loses!!!

[dickbearton]

19. I am a New Yorker...

And I don't care what Rudy doo said. He is a piece of
worthless human shit like all Republicans.

[Seabiscuit]

39. No, no, no... everytime he opens his yap he shoots himself in the foot.

[AX10]

2. Rudy G has quite the record of doings.

He should not be so quick to attack others, seeing that he has many serious misdoings in his life.

[IndianaGreen]

3. Hillary smeared no one! Petraeus smeared himself with his lies!

I can't believe I am defending Hillary, but Rudy is such a fucking jerk!

[rusty quoin]

4. Poor oversensitive Republicans

I guess we have got to be more in tune with their feelings. Clinton's questioning was character assassination? Remember poor Alito's wife breaking down because Ted Kennedy wasn't kind to her husband?

[ClintonTyree]

17. That's all they have to run on.

They certainly can't run on their record. All they can do is attack and smear the Democratic candidates, it's all they've got.

"I'm a bigger patriot than YOU are"! :eyes:

Welcome to DU, by the way. :hi:

[Ian David]

5. Patraeus' boss, Admiral Falon "smeared" Patraeus more!

CentCom Chief Fallon: Petraeus Is ‘An Ass-Kissing, Little Chickenshit,’ ‘I Hate People Like That’

During the Iraq war, the Central Command (CENTCOM) head — who leads U.S. operations in the entire Middle East region — and the Multinational Force Commander (MNF) have regularly testified together about the course of the war in Iraq.

Former-MNF Commander Gen. George Casey and his CENTCOM Commander Gen. John Abizaid constantly briefed Congress about the situation in Iraq and its regional effects. In at least four public hearings after Casey took office in 2004, the pair testified together:

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In January, President Bush replaced Abizaid and Casey, who were “surge” skeptics, with Adm. William Fallon and Gen. David Petraeus. This week, Petraeus — in the first public hearings since taking on his new role — delivered his Iraq assessment to great media fanfare. But where was his boss, Admiral Fallon? Inter-Press Service suggests animosity between the two might be one reason for Fallon’s absence:

Fallon told Petraeus {in March} that he considered him to be “an ass-kissing little chickenshit” and added, “I hate people like that”, the sources say. That remark reportedly came after Petraeus began the meeting by making remarks that Fallon interpreted as trying to ingratiate himself with a superior.



More:
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/12/webb-fallon/

[rodeodance]

9. wish a reported would have retorted that one back at the time.

[Lucinda]

6. I totally understand how he came to that conclusion

After all he has absolutely NO IDEA what it looks like when someone is doing their job.

[Lobster Martini]

7. Trying to assassinate Petraeus' character is like shooting bullets at nothing

What character? It was a foregone conclusion that no one's opinion was going to be changes, so there were two goals--don't give Democrats any quotes to jump on and keep the 66% of Republicans who think there's a coherent Iraq strategy together. (Good to keep them together. Makes them easier to watch.)

On the other hand, there's a small possibility that Petraeus actually believes what he's saying, in which case his judgment should be assassinated.

[rinsd]

8. Here's your opening, Hillary. Rip Rudy a new one.

[redqueen]

14. Yes!

:bounce:

I hope she hits back HARD.

[RavensChick]

21. Please, Hillary!

Say something to humiliate his ass!

[avrdream]

29. She doesn't have to even say anything for him to be humiliated.

His actions say enough.

[rodeodance]

32. I think she is getting her ducks lined up before she says anything.

[kirby]

10. CIVILIAN CONTROL OF MILITARY

Thats our system Rudy! Yeah, I want a prez who doesn't question the advice.

[Bitwit1234]

11. Shame we don't have emails addresses for these nuts.

[eagler]

12. If anyone has a right to smear anyone it's a Clinton

[tabasco]

13. Waaah!!! Did the general & Judy do a doody in their pampers because of the mean Democrats?

[redqueen]

15. ahahahaha... judy!

[BrklynLiberal]

22. I wonder if that is what Rudy would wear to the Inaugural Ball??

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[RavensChick]

38. He should!

Yellow would be a better color choice, LOL!

[Skittles]

16. SHE NEEDS TO SMEAR RUDY TOO

what a fucking asshole he is

[MODemocrat]

18. So, no one can question a General?

I don't believe a word the man said about Iraq, General or not. We all have the right to question anyone who we fear is lying to us, or pumping up the President's rheoteric.

[Gman]

20. So Hillary smeared the "ass-kissing little chicken-shit"??

That's just awful.

That's how we need to be referring to Betrayus. And we didn't make that up either.

[Frances]

23. I think Rudy's attack will help Hillary

Hillary's reputation for toughness is so strong that whether she replies to Rudy or not, she won't be hurt.

I don't know who I will vote for in the primary. I like Obama and Edwards a lot. But I think that the voters are hungry for someone tough enough to stand up to the Republican bullies, and I think Hillary is seen as the toughest of the Democrats.

[CBHagman]

24. Oh, the GOP has had the same talking points all week.

Did anyone else get a load of Representative Ileana Ros-Lehtinen (R-FL), the ranking member on the House Foreign Affairs Committee, practically demanding an oath of allegiance from the Democrats after MoveOn.org ran their newspaper ads? Apparently all Democrats are instantly connected with MoveOn.org unless they prove otherwise. :eyes:

And then McCain started flinging around the term McCarthyism -- and he wasn't referring to Ros-Lehtinen's approach, either. Ya got the wrong end of the stick there, McCain.

[trashcanistanista]

25. Petraus made it easy for her

all she did was rattle off a list of statistics that proved everything he said was a lie. She did this in less than 10 minutes. For anyone who wasn't watching the hearing, she was very good.

[Cha]

26. Is fascistrudy still in the campaign?

[armodem08]

27. 9/11!!! Clinton!!! Blah Blah 9/11!!

9/11!!! Clinton!!! Blah Blah 9/11!! Clinton sucks!

What a sad man you have become Rudy....

[alfredo]

28. Well, somebody had to.

Might as well be Hillary.

He shamed himself by bowing before bush.

[llmart]

30. Rudy is just pissed..............

because he's getting an ass whoopin' from a woman!

You go, Hillary! Show those whiny repugs you aren't afraid of them.

[0007]

31. What can ya expect from a two-bit pussy hound?

[rodeodance]

33. according to cspan Rudy has his own ad today?? I have not seen it

[lynne]

35. Here's Rudy's NYT Ad -

- from his website. It's supposedly in the NYT, not sure if today.
https://www.joinrudy2008.com/contribute/index/times

[rodeodance]

34. "will he betray us and Collin Powell did"---caller says it was in form of a question

[sendero]

36. Dear Rudy...

... smear? Smear? SMEAR?

You want to hear SMEAR? Just listen to your party talk about HRC for the last 15 years.

[rodeodance]

37. "We believe unlike Hillary Clinton that General Petraeus is telling the truth," Giuliani said.

"We believe unlike Hillary Clinton that General Petraeus is telling the truth," Giuliani said.

Calling the ad abominable, Giuliani said Clinton's comments followed up on it "in a very, very coincidental way."

He added, "What I don't think should happen in political discourse is the kind of character assassination that MoveOn.org participated in in calling him General Betray Us, that The New York Times gave them a discount to do and that Hillary Clinton followed up on with an attack on his integrity."

He also said, "It is time for Americans to really insist that American politicians move beyond character assassination and this is exactly what they attempted to do with General Petraeus."

"Maybe you can disagree with his tactics," Giuliani said of Petraeus. "I agree with them, but you have no right to disagree with his integrity."