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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Aug-27-07 12:00 AM
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US could be heading for recession (Ex-Treas Sec Larry Summers)
Source: Telegraph.co.uk

Former US Treasury Secretary Larry Summers warned that the United States may be heading into recession as the biggest victim to date of the sub-prime mortgage debacle was humiliatingly sold for a token sum in Germany.

Traders are braced for another week of turmoil after the near breakdown of America's $2,200bn (£1,100bn) market for commercial paper.

"It would be far too premature to judge this crisis over," Mr Summers said. "I would say the risks of recession are now greater than they've been any time since the period in the aftermath of 9/11."

In Germany, it emerged that the state-bank SachsenLB may have accumulated $80bn of exposure to risky assets through a set of Irish funds kept off balance sheet.



Read more: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/main.jhtml ;jsessionid=4EFJ1B0K5B111QFIQMGSFFWAVCBQWIV0?xml=/money/2007/08/27/cnusecon127.xml
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   Ya THINK?!?! Another week of bailing out the MEGA.......  Double T   Aug-27-07 12:07 AM   #1 
   Ahhh the Truth is coming out Irish funds off the balance sheet  lovuian   Aug-27-07 12:08 AM   #2 
   History buffs....  Hulk   Aug-27-07 12:23 AM   #3 
   Add that corruption just flowers under Repuke administrations  RamboLiberal   Aug-27-07 12:30 AM   #4 
   blame  enid602   Aug-27-07 01:17 AM   #6 
   and the investment in bullets for Baghdad got us what?  Supersedeas   Aug-27-07 11:01 AM   #12 
   Gee, Larry, thanks for the heads-up!!!!  hatrack   Aug-27-07 01:10 AM   #5 
   Head for recession?  area51   Aug-27-07 02:10 AM   #7 
   ....  mojavekid   Aug-27-07 02:55 AM   #8 
      Is M3 the one which shows that inflation is well into the shit storm now?  whistle   Aug-27-07 06:36 PM   #35 
   or a Depression...  Viva_La_Revolution   Aug-27-07 03:34 AM   #9 
   And money is just FLYING off the printing presses at the FRB.  truthisfreedom   Aug-27-07 04:03 AM   # 
   And money is just FLYING off the printing presses at the FRB.  truthisfreedom   Aug-27-07 04:03 AM   #10 
   can't find the article at link...  Jim4Wes   Aug-27-07 06:30 AM   #11 
   Link  TrogL   Aug-27-07 03:06 PM   #13 
   US could be heading for recession  The Sushi Bandit   Aug-27-07 04:31 PM   #14 
   Can't go into recession if the people have jobs.  DJKDJKDJK   Aug-27-07 04:31 PM   #15 
   That is 18 months away from happening unless Dennis Kucinich can pull it off now  whistle   Aug-27-07 04:31 PM   #26 
      Huh?  youngdem   Aug-27-07 04:31 PM   #28 
         You quoted corporatist spin pretty well. Now how about the truth?  Doremus   Aug-27-07 04:31 PM   #29 
         Ya, just like Bush...  dickbearton   Aug-27-07 05:23 PM   #31 
            no reason to change your name I see. Dick fits.  youngdem   Aug-27-07 05:31 PM   #34 
   This section is for BREAKING news, thanks.  redqueen   Aug-27-07 04:31 PM   #16 
   History is breaking news for some people, thanks.  dickbearton   Aug-27-07 05:27 PM   #32 
      When I said "thanks" it was jokey.  redqueen   Aug-27-07 05:29 PM   #33 
   Cheap money and higher government spending are only reason we aren't already in recession.  David__77   Aug-27-07 04:31 PM   #17 
   funny ... no recession under Clinton, and at least one  zbdent   Aug-27-07 04:31 PM   #18 
   Why do people elect pukes?  bamacrat   Aug-27-07 04:31 PM   #19 
   I don't give  cheddar99   Aug-27-07 04:31 PM   #20 
   "Commercial paper".........kind of says it all, doesn't it?  sutz12   Aug-27-07 04:31 PM   #21 
   It's been in an unofficial recession for a while, if you are..  mvdDU Moderator   Aug-27-07 04:31 PM   #22 
   Recession? Or Second Great Depression?  backscatter712   Aug-27-07 04:31 PM   #24 
      An economic meltdown would mean a depression and one far deeper  whistle   Aug-27-07 04:31 PM   #27 
   Go figure...when Iraq is "done", we'll see post Vietnam recession all over again.  Hulk   Aug-27-07 04:31 PM   #23 
   Dah, $115 billion by the U.S. Federal Reserve in the past ten days ALL OF IT  whistle   Aug-27-07 04:31 PM   #25 
   Sherlock fuckin' Holmes  TOJ   Aug-27-07 04:46 PM   #30 
   "Could Be Heading For"  Orsino   Aug-27-07 08:00 PM   #36 
 
Double T (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Aug-27-07 12:07 AM
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1. Ya THINK?!?! Another week of bailing out the MEGA.......
corrupt criminal corporations in the financial sector.
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lovuian (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Aug-27-07 12:08 AM
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2. Ahhh the Truth is coming out Irish funds off the balance sheet
and sold a bill of goods

it must have been deliberately done

Federal Reserve is going to put us in a severe depression and Greenspan had a hand in it
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Hulk (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Aug-27-07 12:23 AM
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3. History buffs....
Try taking a look at "post Vietnam". Ever wonder why we had a recession in the mid 70's?? Can you spell V I E T N A M??? We are now tossing our economy into Humvee's, helmets, bullets, bombs, choppers, flack jackets, etc, etc. When this occupation finally comes back to sanity....do you honestly think we are going to avoid a recession?? If you do, you are dumber than the chimp and co.
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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Aug-27-07 12:30 AM
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4. Add that corruption just flowers under Repuke administrations
This one might make the S&L scandal look like a piker!
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enid602 (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Aug-27-07 01:17 AM
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6. blame
The Republicans know the war will bring on a recession. They're just hoping they can blame it on a successive Democratic Administration, just as they did with Carter (and very successfully so) in the '70's.
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Supersedeas (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Aug-27-07 11:01 AM
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12. and the investment in bullets for Baghdad got us what?
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hatrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Aug-27-07 01:10 AM
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5. Gee, Larry, thanks for the heads-up!!!!
:silly:

Fucking ridiculous - tell me something I DON'T know, asshole!
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area51 Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Aug-27-07 02:10 AM
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7. Head for recession?
How can we head for it, when we've been in recession since '01?


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mojavekid (991 posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Aug-27-07 02:55 AM
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8. ....
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whistle (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Aug-27-07 06:36 PM
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35. Is M3 the one which shows that inflation is well into the shit storm now?
:shrug:
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Viva_La_Revolution (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Aug-27-07 03:34 AM
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9. or a Depression...
whatever.

Winner of the "DUH!" Headline of the Week Award
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truthisfreedom (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Aug-27-07 04:03 AM
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And money is just FLYING off the printing presses at the FRB.
Can't you just smell it?
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truthisfreedom (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Aug-27-07 04:03 AM
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10. And money is just FLYING off the printing presses at the FRB.
Can't you just smell it?
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Aug-27-07 06:30 AM
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11. can't find the article at link...
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TrogL Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Aug-27-07 03:06 PM
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13. Link
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The Sushi Bandit (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Aug-27-07 04:31 PM
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14. US could be heading for recession
Source: Telegraph (UK)

Former US Treasury Secretary Larry Summers warned that the United States may be heading into recession as the biggest victim to date of the sub-prime mortgage debacle was humiliatingly sold for a token sum in Germany.

Traders are braced for another week of turmoil after the near breakdown of America's $2,200bn (£1,100bn) market for commercial paper.

"It would be far too premature to judge this crisis over," Mr Summers said. "I would say the risks of recession are now greater than they've been any time since the period in the aftermath of 9/11."

In Germany, it emerged that the state-bank SachsenLB may have accumulated $80bn of exposure to risky assets through a set of Irish funds kept off balance sheet.



Read more: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/main.jhtml ;jsessionid=4EFJ1B0K5B111QFIQMGSFFWAVCBQWIV0?xml=/money/2007/08/27/cnusecon127.xml
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DJKDJKDJK (101 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Aug-27-07 04:31 PM
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15. Can't go into recession if the people have jobs.
That WGA and repeal of NAFTA sure sounds good right about now.

www.dennis4president.com
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whistle (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Aug-27-07 04:31 PM
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26. That is 18 months away from happening unless Dennis Kucinich can pull it off now
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youngdem (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Aug-27-07 04:31 PM
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28. Huh?
Edited on Mon Aug-27-07 03:58 PM by youngdem
Denny ran Cleveland into the ground. Read up on it.

He's a nice guy, but NOT a good administrator. In fact, he is consistently cited as one of the 50 worst mayors in recent American history.
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Doremus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Aug-27-07 04:31 PM
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29. You quoted corporatist spin pretty well. Now how about the truth?
Monied interests (aka fat cats) were trying to get rid of the municipal light company (aka low-cost electricity) and Dennis wouldn't play.

You sure you're on the right board?
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dickbearton (577 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Aug-27-07 05:23 PM
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31. Ya, just like Bush...
was a great governor. Watch were you do your reading, there is
more to being informed then you think, don't keep it to simple
------. As for 50 worst mayors, what idiots came up with that
celebrity poll. Cleveland was a rust belt city, doing better
now, no thanks to Corrupt Republicans or Incompetent and/or
Criminal Republican Presidents. Maybe you should change your
name from youngdem to young-----.
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youngdem (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Aug-27-07 05:31 PM
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34. no reason to change your name I see. Dick fits.
Edited on Mon Aug-27-07 05:32 PM by youngdem
Denny isn't an effective administrator. I don't have to be a Repuke to understand or believe that.

Denny polls in the single digits IN HIS OWN PARTY. I think the word is out beyond just repukes that he might not be a strong, able leader. Or is EVERY Dem who understands this really a DINO? Please.

He's just a really nice, well-intended idealist who, when given the chance to lead - failed.

Calling me a repuke shows just how shallow your basis for refuting this is.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Aug-27-07 04:31 PM
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16. This section is for BREAKING news, thanks.
;)
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dickbearton (577 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Aug-27-07 05:27 PM
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32. History is breaking news for some people, thanks.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Aug-27-07 05:29 PM
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33. When I said "thanks" it was jokey.
How are you using it there?
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David__77 (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Aug-27-07 04:31 PM
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17. Cheap money and higher government spending are only reason we aren't already in recession.
The junction of a housing bubble and low interest rates enticed millions to extract transient value from their homes, in turn fueling consumer spending and conversely economic growth. The war against Iraq and other new government expenditures have also provided and basis of growth. Now, however, the "other shoe" is dropping in this unsustainable scenario. Bush's economic policies are just as tactical and short-sighted and all his political calculations.
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zbdent (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Aug-27-07 04:31 PM
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18. funny ... no recession under Clinton, and at least one
under the Repuke regime ... if not a second ...
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bamacrat (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Aug-27-07 04:31 PM
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19. Why do people elect pukes?
Everytime they get in office they fuck up any economic prosperity Dems have made. Its like people forget that the publicon party is all about them getting rich and to hell with the country and everyone else.
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cheddar99 (63 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Aug-27-07 04:31 PM
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20. I don't give
Edited on Mon Aug-27-07 02:12 PM by cheddar99
any credence to any gubbermint official, past, present, or future. They are all, with very few exceptions, scum bags of the highest order. Recession is in the eye of the beholder. For instance, I have been living in a recession for the last thirty years. The grifters, on the other hand, have never seen times any better.
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sutz12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Aug-27-07 04:31 PM
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21. "Commercial paper".........kind of says it all, doesn't it?
:evilgrin:
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mvd DU Moderator Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Aug-27-07 04:31 PM
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22. It's been in an unofficial recession for a while, if you are..
middle class or poor.
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24. Recession? Or Second Great Depression?
I've been seeing a lot of bad signs - the bottom falling out of the housing market, the surge in foreclosures, the implosion of subprime lending, the spiraling national debt, the collapse of the U.S. Dollar, the destruction of good middle class jobs in exchange for McJobs through offshoring, etc.

I don't know that it will be as bad as the Great Depression, but I do know it's sure going to suck.
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whistle (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Aug-27-07 04:31 PM
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27. An economic meltdown would mean a depression and one far deeper
...than the great depression of 1929 to 1933. A meltdown is where this economy is headed unless measures are taken to stop that from happening. Nothing that the Federal Reserve and for that matter this congress has down can prevent that and this latest infusion of some $115 billion into the banking system will actually trigger more individual bankruptcies and people having their homes and businesses taken from them.
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Hulk (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Aug-27-07 04:31 PM
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23. Go figure...when Iraq is "done", we'll see post Vietnam recession all over again.
Check your history facts. Once we get off this war economy, where we are artificially pumping up the economy with bullet dollars, we'll see the economy slip back into recession too. Of course, the idiots on the neocon fascist persuasion are poised to blame the Democrats for the recession, just like they did to Carter. What buffoons.
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whistle (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Aug-27-07 04:31 PM
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25. Dah, $115 billion by the U.S. Federal Reserve in the past ten days ALL OF IT
....earmarked for big banks to save their stock values and none of that liquidity to be used for new loans on mortgages or to consumers and so not one dime of those Federal Reserve government backed and taxpayer funded federal debt funded infusion into the financial sector will go into stimulating the economy.

Yes of course their will be a recession engineered by the federal reserve and fully designed to give big banks the liquidity to buy up bankrupt property and force millions of families out of their homes and onto the streets. :wtf:
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30. Sherlock fuckin' Holmes
Edited on Mon Aug-27-07 04:47 PM by TOJ
All the other potential Nobel Laureates in Econ might as well fold their tents.

:eyes:

Edit: or maybe I should say nostra-fuckin'-damus
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36. "Could Be Heading For"
Translation: we're in a recession.
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