FBI: Iraqis Being Smuggled Across the Rio Grande

[RamboLiberal]

Source: ABC News

The FBI is investigating an alleged human smuggling operation based in Chaparral, N.M., that agents say is bringing "Iraqis and other Middle Eastern" individuals across the Rio Grande from Mexico.

An FBI intelligence report distributed by the Washington, D.C. Joint Terrorism Task Force, obtained by the Blotter on ABCNews.com, says the illegal ring has been bringing Iraqis across the border illegally for more than a year.

Border Patrol officials in the area said they were unaware of the specifics of the FBI's report, and federal prosecutors in New Mexico told ABCNews.com they had no current cases involving the illegal smuggling of Iraqis.

The FBI report, issued last week, says the smuggling organization "used to smuggle Mexicans, but decided to smuggle Iraqi or other Middle Eastern individuals because it was more lucrative." Each individual would be charged a fee of $20,000 to $25,000, according to the report.



Read more: http://blogs.abcnews.com/theblotter/2007/07/fbi-iraqis-bein.html

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Alert - Lou Dobb's head must be exploding! Wonder if Repukes would impeach Bushie if terrorist(s) smuggled across Mexican border did pull off attack! I think they might!

[stressfulreality]

1. i'm one of those people who have been bitching about the border for years...

and this is exactly why.
HOW can you possibly justify the iraq war as a 'security measure' when our own front door is left open?
shameful.

[RamboLiberal]

4. Here's an intersting comment on story website

We in Texas have known about this for more than a year; its been on our LOCAL TV and LOCAL radio news reports. Last year, if I remember correctly, the executive branch tried to make the story "softly go away."

Posted by: Ken | Jul 17, 2007 3:38:39 PM

[stressfulreality]

5. that's alarming, but not surprising...

i live in Houston, Tx and i haven't heard about this.
but being in Texas i have always been extremely concerned about this happening.
i seriously feel like our government is living in the twilight zone.
after 9/11 they should have IMMEDIATELY secured out borders.

as a taxpayer - this is infuriating!

[aquart]

9. Interesting. An alarming story without any supporting detail

suddenly appears claiming Texans know about it but, you, a Texan, haven't heard word one.

Golly. Well, I'm gonna rush right out and believe every word.

[stressfulreality]

10. i don't typically watch local news...

so unless this was in mainstream news then i just haven't been informed.

[RamboLiberal]

13. Apparently it's been reported in Laredo

check out from page 27-32 of this document from a Republican represenative McCaul. Now I'm up in PA and yeah I don't trust Republicans, but this is interesting and we can all choose to believe or not.

http://www.house.gov/mccaul/pdf/Investigaions-Border-Report.pdf

[stressfulreality]

28. OMG - President Bush has known about this since 2004

Arab terrorists 'are getting into the US over Mexican border'
By Julian Coman in Washington
Last Updated: 12:10am BST 15/08/2004

President Bush has launched a drive to halt illegal immigration across America's porous southern border, amid growing fears that terrorists may be using Mexico as a base camp before heading to Arizona, Texas and California.

A string of alarming incidents has convinced Bush administration officials that lax immigration rules, designed to cope with the huge numbers of illegal entrants from Mexico, have become a significant loophole in the war on terror.

Over the past month, border agents from Arizona and Texas have anonymously reported recent encounters with dozens of Arab men, who have made their way across the 2,000-mile Mexican border.

advertisementPatrol agents told one Arizona newspaper that 77 males "of Middle Eastern descent" were apprehended in June in two separate incidents. All were trekking through the Chiricahua mountains and are believed to have been part of a larger group of illegal immigrants. Many were released pending immigration hearings. According to Solomon Ortiz, the Congressman for Corpus Christi in Texas, similar incidents are "happening all over the place. It's very, very scary".

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2004/08/15/wmex15.xml

[aquart]

29. Wow, then. If our national guard troops were here...

we could defend our country from invasion. Where are they, again?

[aquart]

30. Wait a minute. They know 77 crossed over...

They have that much detail but they don't know where they went and they weren't waiting to apprehend them? Why?

[stressfulreality]

33. i don't know why. it's scary though, isn't it? (nt)

[robinlynne]

42. Something is wrong here. They were released? Either the story isn't true, or

these people were released on purpose. It absolutely doesn't make sense.

[barb162]

19. Look at post 4; that poster has heard of it , at least the way

I'm reading it.

[aquart]

7. And "we in Texas" know this how? Rush maybe said something?

[ChazII]

27. News like this has made it to our local

stations/channels as well. It is good to see that these stories are getting some attention.

[aquart]

32. Wasn't this the point of Homeland Security?

Wasn't it supposed to be dealing with this?

[alarimer]

2. I read somewhere that we are not letting them in legally (though we have basically destroyed Iraq)

So what else are they going to do?

[Auggie]

3. Sorry... I don't believe anything the government tells me or mainstream media

[aquart]

6. And they know this because....

They're brown and have mustaches?

See, ABC news is not the most reliable source lately. Nor, frankly, is any Bush administration mouthpiece. I'd like fuller detail. Are these armed and well-financed terrorists, or, say, desperate refugee families with children who have relatives in the states but were nonetheless refused immigrant status?

Inquiring minds want to know.

[ovidsen]

52. I beg to differ

Not that ABC is the BBC of the Americas, but their chief investigative correspondent, Brian Ross has been coming up with interesting stuff for decades, even before he joined ABC. He used to be NBC's chief no-stone-unturned guy in the 1980s, and helped uncover a lot of shenanigans by Reagan administration types during the Iran-contra hostage for weapons scandals 20 years ago. (Remember Oliver North?)

If the federal government tells me to "watch out for increased terror activity this summer" I take it with a grain of salt. I still look for unattended briefcases at MARTA stops, but there's been so many "code yellow, red, orange, magnenta with a hint of maple" terror alerts issued by those heads up their butts at Homeland Security since 9/11, I don't let them dictate my life anymore.

But if Brian Ross tells me there are Al Qaeda terror cells trying to enter the US or cells that are already here, well then THAT gets my attention.

Why should anyone be surprised anyway? With the US-Mexican border being a revolving door, I'm not surprised that more than just barely literate but talented stonemasons and carpenters from Latin America are already here. Islamic extremists with deadly ideas. Hiding somewhere. Planning.... something.

Oh, if only Bush that idiot had combed Tora Bora and the Afghan-Pakistan border in the months following 9/11.

But noooooooo..... we had to invade Iraq, which was a wonderful way to convert Iraqi schoolboys into jihadist martyrs just itching to blow up some Americans and themselves so they could enjoy those 72 or whatver virgins in Paradise.

Bush. Cheney. Rove. Rumsfeld. Couldn't find their own butts with a mirror and a flashlight, and single handedly (okay, 8 handedly) turned America into the most hated country in the Muslim world and the world in general. Thanks, guys. Why don't you give eachother medals or something?

[IndianaGreen]

8. Yep, Lou Dobbs' head just exploded!

Perhaps if we had Bush's incompetence in protecting our borders as an additional impeachment article, we will get a lot of Republicans to join us in impeaching the bum.

[silverojo]

34. Maybe you ought to keep up with things

The conservatives hate Bush's guts for this. Even the Freepers are at each other's throats over it.

[tabasco]

11. I'd be more worried about Saudis.

There were no Iraqis on those planes that attacked NYC.

[superconnected]

12. And the purpose for re-broadcasting this old news?

Bush propaganda presses busily spitting out terrorists are everywhere news releases to make us very afraid - which was the only time dumbshit had an approval rating where more than %60 didn't hate him.

[RamboLiberal]

14. I don't think it's working - at least on the net top stories today

were the Stock market hitting 14,000, Benoit's steroids in body and drugs in his wife and kid, and Vick's dogfighting indictment.

[GeorgeGist]

15. shameless ...

:rofl:

[olddad56]

16. I think they should get refugee status, their country has been destroyed.

[diamidue]

17. Former Sen. Bob Graham

who served on the Senate Intelligence Committee a few years back says (in his book) that of the 60 - 80,000 al-Qaeda members trained in terrorism in Afghanistan, some 100 of those graduates were in the USA in 2002. That was 5 years ago and there has not been any attack on our soil.

So, when I hear about Iraqis "sneaking" across our border, I have to wonder why no one is mentioning the al-Qaeda members already supposedly here.

This reeks of fear-mongering.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

18. heaven forbid Iraqis!!!!

[saigon68]

20. I wonder if they will let them buy these after they emigrate (swim) ???

They are cheaper in lots of six

Stanley-Bostitch Quick Change Utility Knife
<, 6 Knives per Box , 3.2 LBS>

Our Price: $46.94 (Save 25%)

[Rosa Luxemburg]

25. LOL nice one!

[saigon68]

47. Yes Humor needed

[DRoseDARs]

21. Assuming for a moment this is true, isn't this an unquestionable smackdown of the meme...

...that if we LEAVE Iraq, they'll follow us here? In all likelyhood, if this report is true, these immigrants are the ones that would have been given refugee status anyway if the US had an honest policy on the Iraqi refugee situation. Of course the flip side of that is if these AREN'T refugees but terrorists, then staying in Iraq A) made them come to the US and B) kept our troops away from their ability to deal with the problem ... if one actually exists.

Time to take a closer look at Chertoff's gut and find out what it knew and when it knew it...

[UTUSN]

22. "Joint Terrorism Task Force," a.k.a., "The Minutemen" n/t

[Earth_First]

23. 'Terrorists' or refugees?

The opportunism of this lot of creatures in Washington to capitalize on a refugee situation is a distinct possibility.

[ohio2007]

24. ...or maybe doctors.......

[libodem]

26. Oh, horse crap...Those poor damn Iraqis.

Let's see 1.2 million sneaked into Syria. Hummm, 750,000 sneaked into Jordan. Ahhh, 100,000 sneaked into Egypt. 40,000 crept into Lebanon. 200,000 into the Gulf States. Turkey has 10,000 of the little brown people. Iran is so dreamy that 54,000 tip-toed in. Since the war we have admitted about 800. Usually we just leave them to be assassinated for being interpreters and helping us. This sounds like continuation of the story I heard on the radio, that the trail was littered with Korans. There are 4 million displaced Iraqis. More inside the country. They are dying for our folly at about 100 per day. We fucked up their county so bad the safest thing to do is get out. Of course we would begrudge them trying to come into our nice neat Democracy. This whole story smacks of propaganda Terra BS. We should open the God Damned gates and let them flood in here instead of the tiny trickle who get through legal immigration. I'll bet most are women and children. This makes my head explode!

[libodem]

31. I wonder why this story did not get one recommend?

[silverojo]

35. Because so many here don't give a damn about border security

God forbid that swarms of illegal Mexicans aren't being prevented from coming over here, due to our sieve-like borders. To hell with impoverished blacks and whites who are actually citizens--we gotta finance dem Mexicans!!!!

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[Buttercup McToots]

37. Bump up

:scared:

[libodem]

38. Needs one more vote to make 5

And of course this story's not getting votes because we all recognize the story sounds made up to scare us. How? About the border? About the pissed off Iraq's? We should be scared if they are coming to repay us in kind, eh? A few daily car bombs to a city near you.

[trof]

39. We need a higher fence and...

We need to crack down on Mexican stepladder factories.
bastids

[Felix Mala]

40. I'm sure it's just a group of Iraqis who have showered our troops with

flowers, but have so many flowers left, they want to shower the rest of us because they're so happy we invaded their country and let a civil war get underway.

[0007]

41. If any thought is put into this ... The Iraqi could learn spanish

and completely fool most Americans that don't speak spanish, thus making the American citizen believe the Iraqi is a Mexican National.

I remember in the fifties when going to school, the Iraqis that were here on a student exchange program, spoke fluent english.

[robinlynne]

43. I'm doubting the veracity of this story. not the OP. the actual story.

It says the FBi has been following these people smugglers for a year. The border crossers were caught, then released pending deportation. (?) The border patrol and DA's offices know nothing about any of it. I don't believe that. Looks like the background for some sort of republican action. either crying terror, or building a higher fence, or money for homeland security. It just doesn't make sense.

[Supersedeas]

49. More psyops (Oswald went to USSR, then return to assassinate Pres after return thu Mex)

[caligirl]

44. Hmmm: Former Reagan Official: Bush May Stage False Flag Events To Reinstate Draft

Helderheid posted this on another thread.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x1369058


Former Assistant Secretary of the Treasury in the Reagan administration Paul Craig Roberts has gone further than ever before, warning that the Bush administration could be about to stage false flag events and terror attacks in order to reinstate the draft, announce a dictatorship and attack Iran.

Roberts has been dubbed the "Father of Reaganomics" and is also a former editor and columnist for the Wall Street Journal, Business Week, and Scripps Howard News Service.

In his weekly syndicated column, Roberts suggests that unfolding events and the nature of the rhetoric emanating from government quarters suggests that a major staged terror attack could be just around the corner.
"Ask yourself: Would a government that has lied us into two wars and is working to lie us into an attack on Iran shrink from staging "terrorist" attacks in order to remove opposition to its agenda?" writes Roberts.

MORE >>>
http://www.blacklistednews.com/iNP/view.asp?ID=3787

[High Plains]

45. Yes, this smells like bullshit.

The Border Patrol in the region and the federal prosecutors don't know anything about it.

[High Plains]

46. But it is good for hyping those border fears.

[olddad56]

48. Someday they will be smuggling Americans across in the other direction

[Phrogman]

53. Americans are flooding into our island here in the Philippines....

Businesses catering to the new arrivals popping up everywhere.

Mostly middle-aged men coming over to start a new life with their Philippina webpals.

It's amazing to watch, never seen anything like this before.

[Xenotime]

50. Not suprising since we...

brutally raped thier land, women and children and occupied thier country. Now, it's their turn.

[goforit]

51. A propaganda ploy to justify terror committed in near future by our very own

tyrrannical leaders.

Can we all read these people like a book now?

Ooooogah Boooooogah!!!