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RedEarth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 10:02 AM
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Pace: Another Troop Buildup Possible
Source: AP)

BAGHDAD (AP) - The U.S. military's top general said Monday that the Joint Chiefs of Staff is weighing a range of possible new directions in Iraq, including, if President Bush deems it necessary, an even bigger troop buildup.

Making no predictions, Marine Gen. Peter Pace revealed that he and the chiefs of the Army, Navy, Marine Corps and Air Force are obliged to consider various troop-level scenarios before September, when Bush will receive an assessment of the Iraq situation from his top commander there, Gen. David Petraeus.

"We're (doing) the kind of thinking that we need to do and be prepared for whatever it's going to look like two months from now," he said in an interview with two reporters traveling overnight with him from Washington aboard an Air Force C-17 cargo jet.

"That way, if we need to plus up or come down" in numbers of troops in Iraq, then the details will have been studied and the military services will be in position to carry out whatever policy Bush chooses, Pace said.



Read more: http://apnews.myway.com//article/20070716/D8QDN5UG1.htm...
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Drum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 10:05 AM
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1. Simply
:puke:
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 10:09 AM
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2. Well, I don't see how anyone can stop them
:shrug:
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 10:09 AM
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3. Pace and the rest of the Bush crime family need to be arrested...
and charged with ignoring reality. I'm dead serious.

They don't care about the wishes of the people AT ALL. They don't even hear us.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 10:15 AM
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5. Pace is just Rummy's spokeman at this point
he has been tasked with throwing this out so they can test on it and so it doesn't appear to be coming out of the clear blue sky when it is brought up again.
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 08:06 PM
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32. Pace needs to be naked with Lynndie's Leash around his neck
What a sight for that sorry excuse of a Butt licker

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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 10:15 AM
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4. They know how to leave ALL opiotions on the Table-whereas for Pelosi........
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AndyA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 10:26 AM
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6. They are already setting it up. More troops will be needed in September.
Bush will veto anything Congress sends to him that draws down troop levels or provides for a date certain to start removing them.

We need a Congress now with a spine who will stand up to Bush and tell him NO. And I'm afraid we don't have that.
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BearSquirrel2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 11:54 AM
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17. I think September is D-Day ...
Edited on Mon Jul-16-07 11:55 AM by BearSquirrel2
I think in September Democrats will make their stand. Republicans are defecting and the public in increasingly sour over the war. Consider this some "I told you so" time.

Just remember until they can get 20 Republican Senators on board, the Democrats only real choice is to shut down the government. They don't have to send Bush spending bills. However, Bush doesn't have to sign general funding bills. I could see Bush systematically shutting down every program he does not like and putting the $$$ it into Iraq. He has ample precedent of "not spending" budgeted funds and not being seriously challenged on it.



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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 12:08 PM
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18. Democrats don't make a stand. They wait for bi-partisan decisions.
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Tempest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 10:31 AM
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7. It will be political suicide
For any politician who doesn't oppose this.
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mikeytherat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 10:36 AM
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8. So, Bush is back to being the decider? Gee, that didn't take long:
July 10:

Bush: Military people will decide troop levels
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19691238 /

Today:
"The U.S. military top general said Monday that the Joint Chiefs of Staff is weighing a range of possible new directions in Iraq, including, if President Bush deems it necessary, an even bigger troop buildup."

What a difference a week makes.

mikey_the_rat
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Grandrose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 10:44 AM
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9. K&R
Why is the military willing to break/destroy their own organization? :shrug: :kick:
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TexasLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 10:49 AM
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10. "whatever policy Bush chooses..."
I thought the generals were in charge.

But in any event, we certainly cannot do what the majority of Americans want! :sarcasm:
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jean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 11:31 AM
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16. and not just generals, but generals ON THE GROUND
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 10:52 AM
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11. Democrats are thinking about considering a non-binding resolution which sort of criticizes the plan
IF they can agree on the language of the resolution and move the previous question to a cloture vote through subcommittee B of the Full Committee on Procedure.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 10:56 AM
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12. Iran?
:(
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 11:06 AM
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13. That was my thought, too, but it could also be to stand-off Turkey
in the north.

Recently, reports say Turkry has moved 150K troops to it's border with Kurdish territory in Iraq.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 11:16 AM
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14. And just where are the soldiers going to come from?
I guess they are going to start draining the prisons because, you know, there isn't going to be a draft...

someone shut that door!!! you want me to get sick???

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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 12:52 PM
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20. That's what I'm wondering
I guess they'll have to get them from Troops R Us.
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TomClash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 11:30 AM
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15. Does this mean . . .
. . . Barbara and Jenna Bush and Matt Lieberman all have to go to boot camp?

We're running out of soldiers to send.

It's getting a little "Drafty" in here.
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tblue37 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 12:19 PM
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19. What troops? (eom)
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 01:23 PM
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21. bah. everyone knows that surges come in threes.
what a crock. yet, watch the MSM and the spineless democrat party in congress swallow this better than the hookers Vitter hired.
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billyoc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 02:39 PM
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22. We've done it before,
so why all the shock? Hell, we're just getting to 1965 levels!

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youngdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 03:31 PM
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23. Who the fuck are they gonna call up? The Boy Scouts and Brownies?
Jesus fucking CHRIST our country is headed up by LUNATICS.
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conspirator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 04:43 PM
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24. mexicans n/t
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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 07:25 PM
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31. Bingo.
Wanna be a US citizen?
Enlist!
BHN
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sanskritwarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 11:13 PM
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37. Just an FYI
from an active duty soldier

The end strength active duty ground forces are

512,000 for the Army

199,000 for the Marine Corps

That is 711,000 troops available, not counting the 500,000 in the Army National guard and Reserves and the 30,000 Marine corps reserves.......

Working with that 711,000 Active Duty ground troops number and with 160,000 in Iraq they are quite confident they can add a lot more troops........hell take off the 105,000 from the last rotation that just got home and they still have another 350,000 troops they could throw into Iraq without having to touch the reserves or National Guard.........

Just an FYI.............
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ohio2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 04:52 PM
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25. Can't get the #'s up without a draft to fill in the blanks if they want troops at the
levels during Viet Nam in the mid 1960's build up
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 05:34 PM
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26. Anyone notice the finger pointing here?
The U.S. military's top general said Monday that the Joint Chiefs of Staff is weighing a range of possible new directions in Iraq, including, if President Bush deems it necessary, an even bigger troop buildup.

Bush always claims its the generals telling him what to do, even though he is commander in chief.

Now Pace is saying Bush is telling him what to do.

This war has no one who will claim responsibility
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MiserableFailure Donating Member (363 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 07:19 PM
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27. Pace: US Weighs Larger 'Surge' in Iraq
Source: AP

BAGHDAD (AP) - The U.S. military is weighing new directions in Iraq, including an even bigger troop buildup if President Bush thinks his "surge" strategy needs a further boost, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff said Monday.

Marine Gen. Peter Pace revealed that he and the chiefs of the Army, Marine Corps, Navy and Air Force are developing their own assessment of the situation in Iraq, to be presented to Bush in September. That will be separate from the highly anticipated report to Congress that month by Gen. David Petraeus, the top commander for Iraq.

The Joint Chiefs are considering a range of actions, including another troop buildup, Pace said without making any predictions. He called it prudent planning to enable the services to be ready for Bush's decision.

The military must "be prepared for whatever it's going to look like two months from now," Pace said in an interview with two reporters traveling with him to Iraq from Washington.

Read more: http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D8QDT5U80&show_...



Wow, what a idiot Bush is.
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Miss Chybil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 07:19 PM
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28. It's deja vu all over again. nt
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 07:19 PM
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29. They don't have a clue
how to get them out even if they wanted to. Can you imagine the chaos?
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roamer65 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 07:19 PM
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30. It's that "e" word.
Escalation.

VIETRAQ.
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 08:14 PM
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33. IT'S IRAQ-NAM
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 09:09 PM
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34. Can we get our pitchforks and torches out yet?
Or do we need to still keep our powder dry?
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 09:13 PM
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35. I don't *think* so, Baby PACER!!1 n/t
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democrat2thecore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 09:14 PM
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36. Someone wake me from this nightmare -nt
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