University investigates threatening e-mails condemning evolution

[BleedingHeartPatriot]

Source: 9 news, Denver, Colorado

BOULDER - University of Colorado police are investigating threatening e-mails with anti-evolution messages sent to biology professors at the Boulder campus.


Police Commander Brad Wiesley says the e-mails claim be from a religious group but investigators don't know whether more than one person was behind them.

He said the e-mails were considered threatening and made reference to killing people who back evolutionary theory. He said they didn't contain any specific threat against any individuals.

"The people that are worried in biology are certainly concerned. I mean it's not every day they're threatened by somebody who doesn't agree with the work that they're doing and so there's heightened concern," said Wiesley.

Read more: http://www.9news.com/news/article.aspx?storyid=73647

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It was only a matter of time that the RW fringe fundies would go after those who teach. I saw the story this morning and the faculty members are quite concerned, especially in light of the fact that many of them work late.

I hope this is taken very seriously by those who are investigating. MKJ

[LeftishBrit]

1. Wow! That is seriously worrying!

[NC_Nurse]

2. They are terrorists, plain and simple.

Why don't they ever call these religious fundies who threaten people who don't agree with them TERRORISTS.
That's what they are Christian terrorists.

[firefox_fan]

8. Yup, they should be reported to HomeLand. No kidding.

[robinlynne]

9. absolutely.

[truth2power]

12. I agree! People protest in front of some Army base

holding signs or something, and that piece of filth in the WH calls them terrorists and wants them jailed for life.

But fundie nutjobs can blatantly threaten anyone, and not a peep from His Lowness or the corporate media asskissers.

[Doctor_J]

25. Probably belong to David Horowitz's cult or Lynn Cheney's

Those two both run organizations that terrorize teachers who speak anti-rw thoughts.

[Trillo]

3. ratcheting up the fear machine. n/t

[acmavm]

4. There's a 'jihad' against Biologists? Boy, we are so much more

advanced than them A-rabs, ain't we?

:sarcasm:

edit: Or would this more properly be called a Fatwa?

[BeyondThePale]

5. these backward fuckers should go live in caves with the Taliban..

I am so sick of the faith-based, anti-intellectual zeitgeist that permeates the right wing. If you hate science so much, stop using modern medicine, driving automobiles, and watching your widescreen TVs

[LeftishBrit]

6. I agree!

They are just the same in essence as the Muslim fundies who are threatening us for giving Rushdie a knighthood.

The religious right are the religious right, whatever God they think they represent, and some of them are prepared to threaten and sometimes use terror to achieve their aims.

[robinlynne]

11. That's not a bad idea. They can contiue their fundie vs fundie war, and we

(the rest of the world) can get back to taking care of our people and animals and earth.

[ladym55]

13. And attending your high-tech services

with surround sound and stadium seating. Give up the techno praise bands and all the other "modern-day" scientific things you require to "worship."

No more antibiotics for you!!! And when you develop Parkinson's--too bad!!!

[madrchsod]

29. yup! good idea

actually talibabys have so much in common they`d probably be best buds for life......

[Beartracks]

44. You're right - without science, there would be no NASCAR...

...and no way to broadcast it to the masses.

Hmmm... And there would be no talk radio either.

[Xipe Totec]

7. Stop evolving or else! nt

[The Backlash Cometh]

10. This is how they started with abortion clinics.

[BleedingHeartPatriot]

34. My first thought.

MKJ

[ladym55]

14. Sadly, I've been expecting this for some time

The RW fundies send their children to college pre-brainwashed and ready to take on the godless heathens who teach at the sinful universities. They make their children so they are unable to learn, but I knew that wouldn't be enough for them.

According to the RW fundies, we are not permitted to think, not permitted to question, not permitted to move forward. The difference between the Christian right and the Taliban is that the Christian right doesn't require their women to dress in bhurkas.

[treestar]

17. They will also go on about how Christians don't do suicide bombs

as if the "Christian Nation" as they claim it is does not drop bombs from airplanes, or as if that's the only fair way to bomb others.

[SharonAnn]

19. the Christian right doesn't require their women to dress in bhurkas. - Yet.

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

36. but some Christian sects

require their women never cut their hair, only wear dresses, and some wear special hats or scarves. They are always to obey the men folk and are forbidden to take a leadership role in their church or in life.

[ladym55]

49. So far they've contented themselves

with keeping women pregnant, powerless, and otherwise submissive.

[kevinbgoode]

50. . . .YET

eom/

[treestar]

15. Gee I wonder if this warrants wiretaps without warrant

on all fundie groups? Somehow I bet not.

[uberllama42]

16. Funny you never see stories about atheist students writing threatening letters to religious teachers

I guess we're all too busy worshipping Satan and studying all those four-legged beetles and refusing to murder rape victims who do not cry loud enough.

[Harry Monroe]

18. Reminds me of the Simpson's episode "Bart's Comet"

After the comet burns up in the atmosphere, the call goes out "Let's burn down the observatory so this doesn't happen again!!"

It is very worrisome that they would go to these lengths to suppress the truth. They would have us go back to the Dark Ages.

[southtpa]

20. fair play

In no science class have I heard a teacher say " there is a mistake on the first page of the bible."
There is a mistake on the first page of the bible. If you paid attention in class you know what it is. How many of you know.

[AllieB]

31. Your comment is puzzling.

Fair play? And please enlighten us on the mistake on the first page in the Bible.

[NYC Liberal]

62. I think I know the mistake he means

1:3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.
1:4 And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.
1:5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day

1:14 And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:
1:15 And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so.
1:16 And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also.

(1:3-5, 14-19) "Let there be light"
God creates light and separates light from darkness, and day from night, on the first day. Yet he didn't make the light producing objects (the sun and the stars) until the fourth day (1:14-19). And how could there be "the evening and the morning" on the first day if there was no sun to mark them

Thank you, Skeptic's Annotated Bible! http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/gen/1.html

[go west young man]

33. My school didn't teach the bible so how could I pay attention?

[Warren DeMontague]

51. What?

Welcome to DU. Really not sure what the fuck you're talking about. Perhaps you would like to explain.

[BleedingHeartPatriot]

21. The scariest part:

It's gone from emails to flyers slipped under doors. MKJ

Then, last weekend, someone slid anti-evolution materials under the doors of offices and laboratories of the building housing the ecology and evolutionary biology department.

MKJ

[nam78_two]

22. Oh great!

Just peachy :eyes:.

[19jet54]

23. Jim Jones...

... I beg to differ, but these people are not Christian, as Jesus was passive and self sacrificing, not a cold blooded killer or a cult like whack-o? These people, no matter what they call themselves are criminals using terrorist tactics.

Any person who believes their cause is above the law (this applies to GOP, DU, Muslims, Jewish, Hindu, Christian, Police, FBI, CIA, Justice, Congress, POTUS or anyone else) are simply lawbreaking criminals! They should be investigated and punished according to the law? America is a nation of law, not theocracy, monarchy or even a dictatorship - we are democratic republic democracy. It is the individual at all levels of our nation, true to this belief, who make the difference - citizen, reporter or detective - go get 'em!

[uberllama42]

32. Who are you to define Christianity?

So far as I know, everyone who uses the name Christian picks and chooses from Jesus's teachings. If these people ignore all the passages about nonviolence, they have the same relationship with the doctrine of Christ as someone who ignores his commandment to obey the laws of the Old Testament. Since every self-declared Christian reads his/her savior's teachings selectively, none can have the authority to define whether or not another person is a Christian.

You and I agree that the 'love thy neighbor' aspect is much more important than the 'follow the Old Testament laws uncomprimisingly' aspect. We have no grounds, however, to claim that we are better able to distill the essence of Christ's teachings than anyone else. These RW extremists have as much right to tell you that you are not a Christian, which is frankly none.

[19jet54]

59. Criminals - not Christian!

.. I was defining what a criminal is by American law - I guess the issue is "does biblical law or Koran law supersede the law of the land?" Freedom of religion does not condone breaking the law in America. Under the law, it is not justifiable homicide or self defense to kill a person teaching anything - your or someone else must be in physical & mortal danger to pull the trigger. It is also illegal to threaten someone's life.

But I still stand by my comment; Jesus never taught killing anyone; thus "to follow the teachings of Christ" does not include "Christian Killers" as a valid definition; but I do agree history paints a very different picture. Kill or be killed is a survival instinct? With Jesus teachings, there is no such thing as death, only life?

[LanternWaste]

61. Many of the laws from the OT...

Many of the laws from the OT are directed specifically at the Jewish tribes in general, and in other instances at the tribe of Levi specifically, as the Levites were the Priests who had their own . A very large number of them are not directed at all at gentiles-- especially in the book of laws (Leviticus).

That's why you don't see too many Presbyterians stoning an unfaithful woman... :)

[benld74]

24. Nuckin Futs is what it is!

[Snarkoleptic]

26. "Ignorance is Strength" from 1984 by George Orwell

Best not mention anything controversial about the tooth fairy when you encounter these narrow minded douchebags.

[madamesilverspurs]

27. Sometimes it's the altitude...

...and sometimes it isn't. Even though Boulder is often described as "25 square miles surrounded by reality," this stuff looks and sounds like seepage from the Dobsonites down by Colorado Springs. You know, the lovely folks who are the heart of Shrubster's base. The same lovely folks who brought us Ted Haggard, and spawn even lovelier folks like Fred Phelps. The same "good" people who build monster techno-cathedrals that suck the life and resources out of the small community congregations that used to play a reliable supportive role in much of the country, only to take those resources and use them to prop up phony patriots with phony religion. Or maybe it's Falwell's ghost having a fit down here because they won't let him throw the gays out of Heaven.........

[BleedingHeartPatriot]

28. Denver is blue, with a few fringe areas to the south, (the direction of the Springs)

which are purple to red.

Yep, the AFA and FOF across the interstate from each other. Good times. MKJ

[Doctor_J]

60. Falwell's in heaven?

not likely.

[ismnotwasm]

30. Why do they limit their God?

That's the part I don't get, aside from the usual religious insanity. If God is God, it can do what it wants, right? If I were God, and I lived forever, I sure wouldn't want my creation to be over in 7 days or 8 thousand years. No. I'd want some long term investment return with sound scientific principles.

Strange brew, these folks, and they're getting worse.

[mcscajun]

38. Exactly. I've been saying something similar for some time now...

and it bears repeating:

There's an old saying...
"The Lord works in mysterious ways, his wonders to perform."

Now, this line can't be found anywhere in the Bible, but you'll hear it from the mouths of true believers and from religious extremists.

So how is it, if they're willing to believe that line, they cannot believe that their god might have chosen the complex process of evolution to achieve certain desired ends? Must they reduce their own god's workings to only those simplistic processes easily encompassed in the most ignorant mind? What a small god this must of necessity be.

[lakeguy]

58. i totally agree...

and i wonder if the second coming/ascension/whatever won't happen with a bang out type of bloody mess, but rather when humans, as a species, come to realize to mysteries behind the universe through science.

knowledge is power...

[Beartracks]

46. Yep -- It is precisely the complexity...

... of an ever-changing creation that is a credit to the Creator.

[Warren DeMontague]

52. You're arguing with people who want to blow folks up for saying things they don't like.

Censorship-Happy Puritan Control Freaks are like that. Mentally ill.

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

35. I have a feeling they have the same mindset

as the "right to lifers" who think it is perfectly proper to murder abortion doctors and bomb women's clinics.

[cui bono]

37. Jesus. When are these people going to evolve? n/t

[IsItJustMe]

39. Ever notice that the real nuts in this country are always right wingers.

[Sarah Ibarruri]

40. I'll bet it's a whacko, bible-banging student

They ought to investigate students currently in science classes that teach evolution, and find out the churches they attend.

[Canuckistanian]

41. That's it. They've lost the "debate"

It's one thing to try and create confusion about the validity of evolutionary science.

But once you start threatening to kill scientists, you're admitting to total failure in your argument.

Throw this in every fundie's face when they start spouting off about evolution being a "theory".

When they have no argument, they always resort to violence.

It's a disturbing pattern.

[BlooInBloo]

42. Fuck I hate idiots.

[laststeamtrain]

43. As long as they only threaten people rather than property it's OK.

:sarcasm:

[spirit of wine]

45. Two things: ad infinitum

1.Read a book

2. Read a different Book

http://www.venganza.org/

[Cha]

47. Just because those suckers haven't

evolved doesn't mean the rest of us haven't. I can't believe we're having this conversation!

Mean low-down varmints are complaining they haven't evovled..don't they have evolution drugs or classes or maybe some clues they could buy?

[originalpckelly]

48. They better not fucking start, they might just get more than they bargained for.

I'm fucking tired of these fundie bastards.

I live in CO, and I'm tired of these nutcases down in CO Springs, they're pushing the rest of us normal people. They're making a mistake pulling this in a state where 1/4 of the population is non-religious.

[kevinbgoode]

53. I'll vote for any candidate willing to construct new insane

asylums. .. right next to their "churches".

We'll call it their "retirement home."

[rocktivity]

54. I think I liked it better when the frat houses paddled their pledges.

:eyes:
rocknation

[NoodleyAppendage]

55. NO different from the Taliban. Xtian Fundies are dangerous.

It's high time we started an active program of prosecuting the domestic Xtian terrorists.

J

[David__77]

56. "Condemning" evolution? Hilarious. Like "condemning" gravity.

"Damn those physical laws of the universe!"

[tanyev]

57. Our loving God told us to kill everyone who disagrees with us!

Very scary.

[noonwitch]

63. I watched "Julia" on HBO this weekend

I hadn't seen it for years, since I was a teen. I'm thinking of the scene in which the brownshirts raid the medical school in Vienna, and throw professors off of balconies and such.