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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 09:16 PM
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All-male secret society wants to log idyllic redwood grove
Source: AP

MONTE RIO, Calif.Members of the Bohemian Club began arriving Thursday for the secret society's annual male-bonding session, but the club's directors are facing a public battle with environmentalists, who want to block a plan to log the surrounding riverside forest.

The club wants a special logging permit to cut more than 1 million board feet per year in perpetuity in the Bohemian Grove on Sonoma County's Russian Riverthe closest unprotected redwood forest to San Francisco, about 70 miles south.

The bounty would build 70 houses a year from the old coastal redwood. Some trees are more than 300 feet tall and 1,000 years old.

Members of the 135-year-old club have included Charles Schwab, Colin Powell, Donald Rumsfeld, Henry Kissinger, Walter Cronkite and every Republican president in the last century.

"Bohos" have written to the state Department of Forestry and Fire Protection, saying the plan would decrease wildfire risks. But scientists at the state Department of Fish and Game, the Sierra Club and other institutions say the plan would degrade habitat and give the club cutting rights with inadequate oversight. A public hearing is expected in late summer.




Read more: http://www.montereyherald.com/state/ci_6359691
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liberalpragmatist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 09:23 PM
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1. WOW
I'm speechless.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 09:25 PM
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2. It;s hard to believe that they would piss in their own champagne, but
I have given up trying to understand these people. Even if they don't have any interest in not destroying this environment, you'd think they would be interested in preserving their little country club up there that would be nothing without the trees. They might as well have a club in the middle of the Atacama desert because that is what would be left (the same terrain, proximity to ocean, and possible weather patterns without the trees)once the shelter and ecological contributions of the ancient forest is destroyed. However, business seems to trump all. I wonder how many of their children they have sold into servitude because the money was good. (metaphor here for those who take my words at face value at times.)
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BrotherBuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 09:59 PM
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6. As St. Ronnie (a past member) used to say, "If you've seen one redwood, you've seen them all."
:shrug:
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Lisa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 12:00 AM
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17. well, I suppose they think that as long as they have a couple of trees to urinate against ...
Edited on Fri Jul-13-07 12:01 AM by Lisa
... everything else is redundant! (speaking of the peeing thing)

http://www.sonomacountyfreepress.com/bohos/inside-spyma...

"And former California governor Pat Brown has said publicly, many times, that the presence of women would keep Bohemians from enjoying their hallowed freedom to pee.

The peeing is ceaseless and more than a little exhibitionistic. Everyone talks about it. Bohemian reminiscences describe such bizarre initiation rites as escorting new members to the redwood at which one of the founders "did his morning ablutions." The Owl Hoots, which are poster-size cartoons racked up each day near the Camp Fire Circle, are filled with pissing pictures. One featured a spurious design for a commemorative stamp of club member U.S. Postmaster General Anthony Frank relieving himself on a redwood."



Ironically -- wasn't it the Boho Club that bought up the surrounding land, decades ago, because they were concerned that logging (and the public intrusions that would come with it) would endanger their little retreat?
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 09:29 PM
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parasim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 09:32 PM
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4. Oh, great...
Not only do these boho fucks love to hold their secret world-domination planning rendezvous under the majestic redwoods every year, but they now want to mine the forests they don't already use for their frolicking "Cremation of Care" rituals to make even more money to fund their war-mongering power grabs.

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Megahurtz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 04:21 PM
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26. Filth And Greed Know No Bounds
with these salivating sleazebags.
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NV Whino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 09:53 PM
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5. What is it, do you think,
about "grove" they don't understand?
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 10:02 PM
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10. All of it. They only like the grove for it's privacy. Now they can just jet to Dubai or Paraguay.
Edited on Thu Jul-12-07 10:45 PM by glitch
edit: Fuckers.
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 09:59 PM
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7. Assholes. Not that that is a surprise. Anybody who is a member of this group has serious issues.
I say we save the trees and lose the boys.
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bonito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 10:01 PM
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8. I think we need to outsource the Bohemian Club
Or let em take barefoot cruses from now on, as long as they don't piss in the water.
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 10:01 PM
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9. There is NOTHING beautiful that these sick bastards won't try to destroy.
The only thing sacred to them is money and power. Enough already!
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 10:08 PM
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11. What utter scum.
Edited on Thu Jul-12-07 10:09 PM by aquart
I refuse to believe my beloved Walter Cronkite supports this.

on edit: conservatives are suppose to conserve. Shouldn't these creatures be called destructives?
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Celebration Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 02:55 PM
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23. He was the voice of the owl!!!
I'm serious--the VOICE OF THE OWL (Walter)!!!! Think of that......

These guys have just not grown up.
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phusion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 10:16 PM
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12. Fuck these assholes! n/t
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snot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 10:33 PM
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13. I think they're concerned it's becoming too known &
could be embarrassing if not incriminating.

I'm sure the impt. activities will merely be re-located.
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shanti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 04:42 PM
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28. right
it sounds like they're planning to ditch the site and move on, but before they do, they'll destroy it for everyone else. :mad:
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 10:34 PM
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14. they want the sacred wood
its very evil
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 10:37 PM
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losthills Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 11:44 PM
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16. My guess is
they'll get whatever they want.

They always have....
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 01:03 AM
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18. it's their world...
we just happen to live in it.
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AnotherDreamWeaver Donating Member (917 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 02:44 AM
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19. I tree planted there
Many years ago (10 I'd guess), I enrolled in the Santa Rosa JC Nat. Res. Class to tree plant. For at least two years, maybe three I planted redwoods where they had clear cut them. What a shame they want to cut them.

I went to the Pacific Lumber Dinner where their forester stated they wanted to break all their property into 60 parcels so they could clear cut everything in 60 years and then start over. I didn't read the Montery Herald post, but guess Boho wants to do a similar Management Plan?

Thanks for the post, ADW
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BornagainDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 02:06 PM
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20. "Bohos"??? Oh...!
Edited on Fri Jul-13-07 02:09 PM by BornagainDUer
:rofl: :rofl:


translation: Bohemian whores!
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superconnected Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 02:54 PM
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21. they've even urinated on the word bohemian.
How could anyone want to cut down 1000 yo trees.

Fuck, I don't get it.
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Lisa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 04:58 PM
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29. sad, isn't it -- they can't even do the "bohemian" thing right ... (link to interesting article)
http://sociology.ucsc.edu/whorulesamerica/power/bohemia...

They wouldn't even be able to put on those elaborate shows they pride themselves on so much, without all the time and effort donated by the lower-ranking "associate" members.

So much for joyful spontaneity!

"Costs are on the order of $130,000 to $150,000 per High Jinks in 2004 dollars, a large amount of money for a one-night production which does not have to pay a penny for salaries (the highest cost in any commercial production). "And the costs are talked about, too," reports my second informant. "'Hey, did you hear the High jinks will cost $150,000 this year?' one of them will say to another. The expense of the play is one way they can relate to its worth.""
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superconnected Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 02:55 PM
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22. And why am I not surprised that all republican presidents have been in an
all male secret society.

Let met guess, it's also all white too.
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ContraBass Black Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 11:28 PM
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33. Not if Colin Powell is a member.
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regnaD kciN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-14-07 01:43 AM
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34. Has anyone here read "Significant Others"...?
It's one of the sequels to Tales of The City, and a large part of the plot line involves the conflict between Bohemian Grove and a radical feminist camp located right next to it. Quite funny!
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 03:01 PM
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24. Gaah! What is wrong with these people?
Edited on Fri Jul-13-07 03:01 PM by progressoid
forget I asked. I already know.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 03:08 PM
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25. Fire danger?
Redwoods, in a properly maintained forest, don't burn. Their bark is too thick, and their branches are too high. Fires that should be allowed to go through any wilderness area from time to time reduce the fuel load and keep any other trees from getting tall enough to catch the redwoods on fire.

If these overrich, bored dopes aren't maintaining their area properly as it is, why give them permission to further despoil the property?
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Akoto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 04:31 PM
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27. Not to ask a stupid question, but ...
If the name of their club and those of its members are being published in an AP article, doesn't that mean it's not really a secret society? :P
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slampoet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 06:16 PM
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31. If these are presidents and leaders in the Club How can they Call themselves Boheimian?
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donkeyotay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 06:01 PM
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30. Seriously, what is wrong with republicans? Pissing on everything.
Gravitas leaders of the world? They're stealing, lying, cheating, pissing or wearing diapers for sex. Jeesh.
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ooglymoogly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 06:34 PM
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32. When I was a youngster I played in those redwoods...the same ones
that are there 50 years later and were there 1000 yrs before...standing in them is an ethereal experience, they are pure magic. Anyone even contemplating cutting them has to be minus a soul. Its as if they are trying to kill their creators. Even though these men of the Bohemian cl. are some of the most powerful crooks on earth, the people of northern Calif will not let it happen.....they will circle the redwoods with their bodies if necessary.
This is not some 100 yr old forest of pine trees it is a thousand yr. old enclave of the purest peace that will grow no where else on earth. What is it with these crooked minds...will they next turn Yosemite into granite building blocks and counter tops?
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raouldukelives Donating Member (945 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-14-07 01:59 AM
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35. Here's a good local article from the recent Bohemian
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