Lieberman: Bomb Iran If It Doesn't Stop

[RiverStone]

Source: CBS News

(CBS) The United States should launch military strikes against Iran if the government in Tehran does not stop supplying anti-American forces in Iraq, Sen. Joe Lieberman said Sunday on Face The Nation.

"I think we've got to be prepared to take aggressive military action against the Iranians to stop them from killing Americans in Iraq," Lieberman told Bob Schieffer. "And to me, that would include a strike into... over the border into Iran, where we have good evidence that they have a base at which they are training these people coming back into Iraq to kill our soldiers."

The Connecticut Democrat said that he was not calling for an invasion of Iran, but he did say the U.S. should target specific training camps.

"I think you could probably do a lot of it from the air, but they can't believe that they have immunity for training and equipping people to come in and kill Americans," Lieberman said.


Read more: http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/06/10/ftn/main29084...

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Lieberman can't pull his head out --- he's a war mongering idiot who can't see that his and BushCo's bullshit bravado simply creates new generations of hatred and anger towards America.

How dare you toy with starting another fucking immoral war Loserman? How dare you create a world less safe for my two teenagers?!

Talk about drinking every ounce of the kool-aid...he has gone fully over the deep end. He's nothing but another wingnut wacko.

Our votes in 08 will make him 100% irrelavant to his former party!

[jimshoes]

1. Or we could get out of Iraq

They never think of that.

[0007]

10. What and stop WAR profiteering!? How dare you?

[maddezmom]

2. I was just reading it on Reuters

U.S. senator says military action in Iran possible


WASHINGTON, June 10 (Reuters) - Sen. Joseph Lieberman, a long-time supporter of the Iraq war, said on Sunday military force might be necessary to stop Iran from training and equipping extremists who are killing U.S. troops.

"I think we've got to be prepared to take aggressive military action against the Iranians to stop them from killing Americans in Iraq," the Connecticut independent said on CBS' "Face the Nation."

"And to me, that would include a strike into -- over the border into Iran, where we have good evidence that they have a base at which they are training these people coming back into Iraq to kill our soldiers," he said.

Lieberman lost the Democratic primary for re-election last year because of his support for the war but came back in the general election as an independent to be returned to the Senate.

more:http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/N10439173.htm

[MUAD_DIB]

5. I was discussing Holy Joe with a friend last week.

The Dem leadership need him unfortunately. If they were to lose Loserman to the GOP then the Right would gain enough control to screw things up more than they do now.

If the Dems had one more senator then they could tell Joe to pound sand. Sadly that is not the case, and they are stuck with this AIPAC sonofabitch.

[mac56]

21. At this point, who the f*ck cares?!

Kick his sorry ass to the curb. Let him switch sides if he wants to. Not like the Dem leadership is going great guns with the "majority" it has now.

We aren't stuck with him. And if we act like we are, and have to tolerate him for at least a while, I plan to bitch loudly and long whenever he pulls shit like this.

[EV_Ares]

66. So the choiceis let Lieb have his way all the time or go ahead and

kick his ass out. Seems kicking him out is the thing to do. However, that takes guts.

Also, what good is it to constantly bow to his pressure, what is the difference if he switches sides?

[chelsea0011]

17. Didn't Karzai(sp?) call Iran a good friend last week?

Now I'm really confused.

[seatless-in-seattle]

3. lead us

lead us warrior Joe!

[RedSock]

4. grab a gun joe!

enlist or resist.

[NoodleyAppendage]

9. EXACTLY. If he's so keen on saving Israeli, then he needs to move there or enlist.

It's HIGH TIME that we focus US foreign policy on what in our best interests and not the interests of Israel.

J

[TankLV]

6. Flase solution to an imaginary problem.

If we got OUT of Iraq NOW - there wouldn't be any "amerikkkans in Iraq" fuckwad LIEberman!

Problem "solved" - but of course - not the way YOU your WAR CRIMINALS here and in Israel want...

[otohara]

7. Shocking News ... Instability In Middle East

Arabs want to kill American soldiers for invading a sovereign country, killing hundreds of thousands, torturing prisoners and demolishing most of it's infrastructure. Who'd a thunk?

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[LeftishBrit]

14. That is a disgusting post on two grounds...

(1) You are suspecting Lieberman of allegiance to another country, when you don't suspect other people with similar evil policies of such allegiances... wonder why. Is it only Jewish hawks who are to be suspected of divided allegiances? I haven't heard anyone saying that Bush or Cheney or Rumsfeld or Rice or Gates is loyal to Israel - yet they share the same disgusting agenda as Lieberman.

(2) Any *responsible* opponent of the Israeli Right should be hoping that Labour and other left-wing parties get control of their government, and that the country pursues peace negotiations. Not wanting right-wingers to take control and drag the country into yet another war!

[BikeWriter]

20. * is a Saudi operative.

[lovuian]

35. I never thought of that I always thought he was Mossad

thats a good point double agent

[Wwagsthedog]

25. What I find disgusting is the war that joltin joe advocates at no...

...risk to himself or those of similar ilk - you pick 'em.

[LeftishBrit]

47. I can pick quite a few: Bush, Cheney, Blair, most right-wing media pundits

Haven't noticed that *any* of them were very eager to go to war even when they were the right age, or that they are rushing to persuade their kids to enlist.

[Joe Bacon]

26. The SAME Labour Party that is in coaltion with Olmert?

Yeah, the same Labour Party whose Shimon Peres is currently Foreign minister?

[LeftishBrit]

45. I mean, the Labor Party should get enough votes NOT to be in coalition with more right-wing parties)

And preferably be in coalition with even more left-wing/ pro-peace parties.

(Due to their PR system, virtually all Israeli governments are coalitions, and small changes in votes can have far-reaching influences.)

I don't want to move the thread single-handed into the I/P forum, but was just trying to make the point that one should want Israel, like most countries, to move to the left, not the right. What if British people who don't like Blair's pursuit of right-wing American interests were to say, "I wish Blair would become a Republican president of the United States and start another war"?

[NoodleyAppendage]

27. Give me a friggin' break. When has Lieberman been anything but a pro-Israeli hawk?

Please point to a single issue where he has not sided with pro-Israeli positions on this war?

I know you want to tar and feather me as anti-semitic, but alas you cannot because I have the FACTS behind my assertions that he is nothing but a pro-Israeli war hawk.

J

[LeftishBrit]

51. 'Pro-Israeli hawk' is different from 'having allegiance to Israel'

I agree that he is a hawk; and I also agree that HE probably thinks that his policies are supportive of Israel (which is different from their actually necessarily being good for Israel). I also think that HE mainly thinks that his policies are beneficial to America (which, again, is different from their actually being so).

If you'd said 'pro-Israel hawk' from the beginning, I wouldn't even be arguing with you. The implication, however, was that he is not loyal to his own country and should move to another one where he has never lived, but for which he (like many others) has shown some political support.

Do you think that Cheney, Bush and the other war-hawks, who support the same policies as Lieberman, are also more loyal to Israel than to America? If you do, then fine; I don't agree with you (though I think that some are more loyal to their own personal interests than to any country), but it's not discriminatory if you think it about everyone with the same policies. If you say it JUST about Lieberman, then one does have to wonder why. And I don't mean just 'you' as an individual, but all who seem so much more ready to suspect the genuineness of Lieberman's American loyalties than Bush's or Cheney's or Rumsfeld's or McCain's or Ann Coulter's American loyalties.

[ProudDad]

62. I think joe's allegiance would shift to

Israel if...

Say, there's an enlightened, Progressive majority in the Congress and an enlightened Progressive President...

Say these "left wingers" act on the fact that the Israel/Palestinian issue IS the major problem in the so-called Middle East...

Say these "left wingers" tell the right-wing govt. of Israel that they're going to lose their Billions of $$$ per year of U.S. subsidy and their arms purchases from the U.S. will be embargoed if they don't negotiate in good faith with the Palestinians...

That such negotiation includes total withdrawal of IDF and the illegal settlers from the West Bank and Gaza and the ceding of a corridor under Palestinian control joining these two parts of Palestine...

That Jerusalem be an open, shared capital...

That the Apartheid wall be torn down...


Which way do you think jumpin' joe's allegiances would lay?

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[JerseygirlCT]

19. "You and yours"? nt

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[LeftishBrit]

39. Would a Fijian or Irish politician who was a pro-Israel war-hawk instantly be accused of ...

allegiance to Israel?

That's our point.

Not wishing to defend Lieberman, whom I've detested since 1988, all the way from here, and thought was a TERRIBLE choice for VP candidate. But I don't like bad policies being too readily equated with allegiance to another country (reminds me of McCarthyism); and, if one MUST do that to one, one should do it to all with the same policies.

No, I do not think that his, or anyone's arguing for a wider Middle East war, is a good thing. I think that he's always been a hawk, and he now has an allegiance to Bush and Cheney and other Republicans, who got him back into the senate - at the expense of their own candidate - when his own party didn't want him. I think the whole bloody caboodle of them are dangerous, and that includes Blair and other Bush-poodles over here. But I think they are loyal to American imperialism, not to Israel. And how is Israel going to benefit from another war in the Middle East, which would undoubtedly inspire terrorist attacks, if not all-out war, against them?

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[JerseygirlCT]

61. Absolutely agreed on all points.

Being from CT, there were a couple of times I held my nose and voted for him, b/c there really weren't any other options.

But I've never liked the guy. Even back in '88, when he was coming across as Mr. Environment, and a lot of people I knew really went for that, I sensed something phoney and smelly there. Happily voted for Lowell Weicker, and I'd do it again in a heartbeat.

But that said, there really should be no place for the sort of prejudice we just saw here. It's really unfortunate to find it rearing its head at DU.

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[NoodleyAppendage]

33. Well..that wasn't helpful. I'm trying to communicate the position and not something so charged.

J

[IndianaGreen]

38. The FBI busted an Israeli spy ring in the Israel Lobby

and the Israel Lobby wants traitor and convicted spy Jonathan Pollard to walk free.

[NastyDiaper]

11. Watched it live. It was scary stuff. He either has worms in his brain,

or is on Cheney's talking points mailer.

[LeftishBrit]

15. You mean the two aren't the same thing?

Listening to Cheney can Seriously Damage your Brain!

[LeftishBrit]

12. One of these days, Bush will need an operation to get all these nutters out of his rear end!

Lieberman, all the Republicans, Blair and his cronies, John Howard ... how do they all manage to fit there?

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[bamacrat]

16. Can we kick him out of the party?

He has no officially entered the realm of psycho neocon, Iran wouldnt be supplying them if we werent there. Fuck you Joe, you are the single biggest waste of a congressional seat.

[Tempest]

18. "The Connecticut Democrat"?

Damn "Liberal" media.

[Roland99]

55. It now reads "Independent former Democrat"

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[sakabatou]

23. War! War! War!

Rah! Rah! Rah!

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[KamaAina]

24. I thought it was mostly the Sunnis that were killing Americans

and the Iranian-backed Shiite militias were mostly killing the Sunnis.

Of course, to a war hawk like Joe, there's really not much difference.

[Botany]

28. and the Sunnis are funded by our best buddy

Saudi Arabia.

Saudis reportedly funding Iraqi Sunni insurgents
Updated 12/8/2006 7:29 AM ET


CAIRO (AP) — Private Saudi citizens are giving millions of dollars to Sunni insurgents in Iraq and much of the money is used to buy weapons, including shoulder fired anti-aircraft missiles, according to key Iraqi officials and others familiar with the flow of cash.

Saudi government officials deny that any money from their country is being sent to Iraqis fighting the government and the U.S.-led coalition.

But the U.S. Iraq Study Group report said Saudis are a source of funding for Sunni Arab insurgents. Several truck drivers interviewed by The Associated Press described carrying boxes of cash from Saudi Arabia into Iraq, money they said was headed for insurgents.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/iraq/2006-12-08-saud...

[Chovexani]

64. Dontcha know?

Them ragheads're all the same.

Kill 'em all and let God sort 'em out.

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[LeftishBrit]

36. And so everyone who supports war with Iran is an Israeli?

Even if they've never lived there?

Or only those of certain ethnic groups?

I suppose a logical conclusion would be that an Israeli who opposes war with Iran thereby ceases to be an Israeli!

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[tanyev]

37. McCain/Lieberman - The Team for No Tomorrow.

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[anotherdrew]

40. Gen. Pace to Troops: Don't Nuke Iran Illegal, immoral orders should be disobeyed

Gen. Pace to Troops: Don't Nuke Iran
Illegal, immoral orders should be disobeyed
by Jorge Hirsch

At the luncheon of the National Press Club on Feb. 17, 2006, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Gen. Peter Pace, was asked by his interviewer, John Donnelly: "Should people in the U.S. military disobey orders that they believe are illegal?" Pace's response:

"It is the absolute responsibility of everybody in uniform to disobey an order that is either illegal or immoral."

read more @ http://www.antiwar.com/orig/hirsch.php?articleid=8678

[Gregorian]

42. Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.

iJUST DESTOYED MY KEYBOAD.


BYE FO A WHILE...

[AwakeAtLast]

43. I saw that interview

And he said it in that "You're getting sleepy......very sleepy" tone of his. Makes the kool-aid go down easier I bet.

[young_at_heart]

48. I hope Al realizes what a tremendous mistake it was to choose Joe!

How has he managed to keep getting elected?

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[slay]

52. I say if Joe wants to "do something" about Iran - let's send him over there!

Fuckin traitor.

[Roland99]

53. FUCK YOU, ASSHOLE WARMONGER!!!

GodDAMN these fuckers have NO morals! NO sense of American pride! NO sense of what our Founding Fathers fought for and worked so damned hard to carve out in 1776.

FUCK THEM ALL!!

[ShortnFiery]

56. That's just sick!

What have we become as a human race?

I was born in an USA clinic, Tehran, Iran, while my US Army Father's unit was detached to provide engineering expertise to The Shah of Iran.

I am a full American Citizen who has held a security clearance and served within Army Intelligence.

Please embrace the fact that I love the USA with all my heart and soul, but BOMBING ANY COUNTRY without *imminent threat* is not what I and my father before me, as Army Officers, swore to in upholding The Constitution against *all enemies.*

We, as a people, MUST show "tough love" to all countries in the M.E. to INCLUDE Israel.

We have just been informed that the Israeli Army bombed the Gaza Strip in retribution for Palestinians attempting to kidnap a soldier. Such TACTICS are IMO "collective punishment" and a hair's breath away from war crimes.

I'm Catholic so I don't have a preference - ONLY that the only thing that should be sacred in the solution to the strife within the middle east is ARBITERS who steadfastly maintain neutral with regard to religious beliefs.

I weep at the thought of such a beautiful nation (IRAN) and many beautiful people *bombed into the stone age* over NOTHING ... The destruction of IRAN is flatly endorsed by a man (Senator Lieberman) who seemingly holds his faith above the true interests of His Country and the fate of Humanity, in general. I weep for our future and pray for a merciful, peaceful and just settlement to ALL the world strife.

And the answer does NOT lie with Lockheed Martin, et. al. War Profiteering control of our government.

[ProudDad]

57. I would suggest bombing LieBerman

but that would be wrong...

[Joey Liberal]

58. Lieberman wants WW3

But he wants someone elses kids to fight it.

[yurbud]

59. Bush is getting our troops killed in Iraq

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[StudentsMustUniteNow]

63. Send Matt Lieberman to fight

Why was he in Yale while Holy Joe LIEberman was sending Americans to die in Iraq?

[LeftishBrit]

65. Same reason, I imagine, as why Euan Blair is also in Yale, while Tony has been sending Brits to die

in Iraq.

Politicians like wars, just as long as it's not themselves or their kids who have to fight.

[ohio2007]

67. What do the polls taken in his home state think of his stand?

[Moderator]

68. locking

its become a flamewar