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Astrad Donating Member (374 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-05-07 07:56 AM
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US to attack Iran by end of April: report
Source: IANS

Kuwait City, April 4 (Xinhua) The US is planning to attack Iran's nuclear reactors and other nuclear facilities by the end of this month, the Kuwait-based Arab Times newspaper reported Wednesday.

Citing anonymous sources in Washington, it said that various White House departments had started preparing the political speech to be delivered by the US president later this month, announcing the military attack on Iran.


Read more: http://in.news.yahoo.com/070404/43/6e5dl.html
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-05-07 08:00 AM
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1. SOB's all of them.
:grr:
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-05-07 08:01 AM
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2. check out the "justifications" for the attack....
oh and I am so glad the Iran provision was removed from the house bill. :sarcasm:

:nuke:

<snip>

According to the Times, one of the justifications expected in the speech is Iran's alleged role in the killing of American soldiers in Iraq by supporting various militias with money and arms.


The US president's speech will also point to Iran's political interference in Iraq, obviously in cooperation with Syria.


The sources were quoted as saying that US will not resort to a ground attack in order to avoid human losses.




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soothsayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-05-07 08:04 AM
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4. In order to avoid 'our' human losses, not theirs, I'm sure.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-05-07 08:09 AM
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5. nuke bunker busters
the gift that keeps on giving......

The Nuclear Bunker Buster (flash animation): Simulation of Consequences of a Nuclear Bunker Buster Bomb Attack on Iran


by Union of Concerned Scientists


http://www.ucsusa.org/global_security/nuclear_weapons/nuclear-bunker-buster-rnep-animation.html
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tchunter Donating Member (236 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-05-07 04:18 PM
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44. beat me to it! Son of a.....
"The sources were quoted as saying that US will not resort to a ground attack in order to avoid human losses."


wouldn't not dropping bombs avoid even more human losses?
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-05-07 08:40 AM
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9. It isn't the effectiveness, it's that neocons want to use nuclear weapons
....to expand and reinforce their domination over all nations in the world
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-05-07 08:46 AM
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10. So that's why they didn't want Pelosi in Syria...
...we can't have Pelosi creating a healthy, open dialog--and screwing up
the propaganda campaign that BushCo will market to us in the coming weeks.

How can they position Syria and all of its people as a bunch of inhuman devil dogs--if Nancy Pelosi
demonstrates that human beings live there--and that progress can be made through diplomacy.


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soothsayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-05-07 08:03 AM
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3. we would have been ready by april 7 if the tsunami had not hit
Diego Garcia (military base used by the brits, us, and aussies---it's where alot of the attacks on the 233 targets will be launched, and also part of our vital supply lines). Now we'll be ready to attack April 17-19. Admiral Fallon is in charge of Operation TIRANT (the iranian near theater, supposedly). We'll see if this proves to be true. I sure hope not!
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thecrow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-05-07 08:19 AM
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6. Isn't Diego Garcia an island off the south coast of INDIA?
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-05-07 08:37 AM
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8. Yes, and it's mostly just a huge airbase
...and a navy port.
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-05-07 09:10 AM
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12. Never let geography get in the way of a good conspiracy theory
Perhaps Diego Garcia can be transported around the world, like the aircraft carrier in The Philadelphia Experiment.
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thecrow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-05-07 09:12 AM
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13. I don't think the tsunami had any effect on Diego Garcia
dude
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-05-07 09:28 AM
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19. Yes, I know; it's the post you were replying to that seems to think it did
I was supporting you (and frankly, I doubt I'd get a reply out of someone who baldly stated a tsunami had just hit Diego Garcia).
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Cessna Invesco Palin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-05-07 11:53 AM
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32. Wasn't there some conspiracy theory about the Boxing Day...
...tsunami *not* damaging Diego Garcia due to some sort of secret anti-tsunami technology somethingorother?
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thecrow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-05-07 01:59 PM
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36. I wasn't aiming it at you :)
And yes, the person who posted that didn't take geography very seriously.
I think we would have heard about it big time if a tsunami had just hit Diego Garcia!
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Ghost Dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-05-07 01:11 PM
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34. As regards "Fantasy Island" location & tsunami:
Location:



(ie. not so far for the likes of B2s, B52s, etc.);

Indian Ocean Tsunami, late March (news of which there may have been, largely succesful, attempts to suppress, or else is false):

I only find this at the USGS site: http://neic.usgs.gov/neis/bulletin/neic_afap.html

and reports such as: http://www.care2.com/news/member/804311123/336108

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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-05-07 02:07 PM
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37. Strange - Sorcha Faal is a complete nutcase, but does link to a real news report
The 2nd site you link to refers to a Sorcha Faal web-page, which is full of apocalyptic nonsense, but does link to a Malaysian site, reporting a tsunami in Qandala, Somalia (also reported as 'Qandalla' on a Somali site and an African site). All 3 agree the tsunami was on the night of Saturday 24th/Sunday 25th. But the USGS site doesn't report any significant earthquakes in the Indian Ocean around that time (and the map on the 'care2' site puts the centre in the eastern Indian Ocean - which doesn't fit with the report of damage only coming from the west of the Ocean - India, Indonesia, Malaysia and Thailand were all a lot closer to that claimed epicentre).

So there doesn't seem much evidence for an Indian Ocean earthquake - yet there were 3 reports of a 'tsunami' in Somalia.
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Ghost Dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-05-07 03:08 PM
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40. Yup, I'm in concordance with your observations.
(Though, I'm coming to suspect "Sorcha Faal" is not a real person - it is, rather, some kind of 'umbrella' designation covering, at least, several writing voices - I do check out the site from time to tme and, indeed, find the news-compilation service sometimes useful, as a shortcut).

I believe I have picked up certain vibrations <g> right here in DU, on the other hand, as regards recent increased (and highly predictable, I imagine) Diego activity...

Of course, students of the theme/meme should at the very least see this video (and if only for the wonderful Pilger-Schlessinger vignette) here (if have not done so already): http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-3667764379758632511&q=John+Pilger+Stealing+A+Nation
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-05-07 11:34 AM
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29. Um, what the hell? Tsunami??
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Cessna Invesco Palin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-05-07 08:35 AM
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7. This shit again?
Do these people just pull these dates out of their asses?
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-05-07 09:16 AM
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15. I was thinking the same thing. This is replacing the terror warnings now...
I reflected on this. Who would benefit from all this?

The people making money on oil. As long as there is fear, the price stays up.

Russia came out with some sort of screwy report last week stating that an attack was imminent. And according to them, we should be lobbing missiles into Tehran as of last friday.

who benefits? russia, the price of oil goes up, they make a mint. remember they are one of the largest exporters of fossil fuels.

This is like a clusterfuck pile on for the oil pigs. They reap the most when fear is the order of the day. So they keep stoking the fires as long as they can.

now don't get me wrong, I believe moron* is salivating over the prospect of nuking Iran, but until then, it's the oil bastards making this shit up to make more money.
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fshrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-05-07 02:13 PM
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38. American public has 2 balls:
Edited on Thu Apr-05-07 02:13 PM by fshrink
1- Terrorist attacks (i.e. 911)
2- Support out troops

Both are tightly held by the neo-fascists currently in power. You can squeeze either of these balls and obtain the same effect: immediate obedience. Squeezing the 2 balls at the same time doesn't bring an increase in yield. Squeezing either ball brings a similar yield.
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-05-07 10:53 AM
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24. Imbeciles will believe anything
Or rather, they believe what they want to believe.

This accounts for the vast wealth of various televangelists. But there are suckers born every minute, and no small number end up on DU, as everywhere else.
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INDIA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-05-07 08:58 AM
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11. The Sky is Falling!!!! The Sky is Falling!!!!!!!!!!!! n/t
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BigDDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-05-07 09:14 AM
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14. Will we be greeted as liberators?
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-05-07 09:18 AM
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16. They said before April, back in January
Exactly the same thing - Xinhua passes on what the Arab Times says:

KUWAIT CITY, Jan. 14 (Xinhua) -- U.S. might launch a military strike on Iran before April 2007, Kuwait-based daily Arab Times released on Sunday said in a report.

The report, written by Arab Times' Editor-in-chief Ahmed al-Jarallah citing a reliable source, said that the attack would be launched from the sea, while Patriot missiles would guard all Arab countries in the Gulf.

Recent statements emanating from the United States indicated the Bush administration's new strategy for Iraq doesn't include any proposal to make a compromise or negotiate with Syria or Iran, added the report.

The source told al-Jarallah that U.S. President George W. Bush recently had held a meeting with Vice President Dick Cheney, Defense Secretary Robert Gates, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice and other assistants in the White House, where they discussed the plan to attack Iran in minute detail.

http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2007-01/14/content_5604565.htm
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-05-07 09:19 AM
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17. I'd Like to See Bush Try
Of course, seeing as how he's STILL doing recess appointments, still employing Rove and Gonzales, still trying to eviscerate Social Security, he probably will try to bomb Iran

UNLESS WE STOP HIM DEAD IN THE WATER WITH FORCE!

IMPEACH, INDICT, INVESTIGATE, INCARCERATE!
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rcdean Donating Member (229 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-05-07 09:24 AM
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18. Blame this squarely on DEMOCRATS!
This WILL happen. Bank on it.

Why? Because nobody on either side of the political equation has the guts to build a case against it. Nobody of consequence will speak out against the preposterous, monstrous absurdity.

Our side has utterly failed to condemn this. Why? You and I know why.

The reason is that which dare not speak its name. It is the profound, unfathomable power which the right wing government of one single nation has over the Democratic party and -- via the neocon control of the * misadministration -- over the US government as well.

Our party leaders are powerless to speak out against an idiotic attack on Iran. Pure and simple.

The result is we will have another mindless intervention in Iran that can not possibly succeed in destroying its underground fissionable material processing facilities. We will again assault Iran, as we did in the 1953 coup against Mossadegh that pissed them off for 3 generations.

The moron in chief will regain substantial approval from this new shock-and-awe demonstration.

Iran will eventually have nukes. But as a result of this blunder, we will radicalize their moderates and wind up with a nuclear power profoundly pissed off at us.

The entire nation and the world will be the loser.

The Democratic party leadership has utterly failed in its responsibility to speak out against this horrible idea.

Our party must somehow find a way to break free from the all powerful control of AIPAC so it can speak truth to power on issues of war in the middle east.

We should not allow ourselves to be used as the puppet of any allied nation's right wing government.
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Boswells_Johnson Donating Member (526 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-05-07 09:58 AM
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21. It goes beyond the Democratic party...
It's your entire system. It's not much better here in Canada, either.

"The Democratic party leadership has utterly failed in its responsibility to speak out against this horrible idea,"
The people who typically run for election, especially at the higher levels, are exactly the people who should NOT be in power. Clinton, Obama, et.al. have spent their entire lives planning and positioning themselves for an attempt at power. It's nothing more than a game. It certainly isn't leadership because it's all about playing the system and not about making real changes. Nobody representing either of the main parties will ever rock the boat, otherwise they wouldn't be chosen as the candidate. Perhaps Dean would have made changes, but look at what happened to him.

People say that Nader is a bad influence on your elections. The way I see it is that a vote for him is a vote for change at least. I'm sure many people vote for Nader not because of what he says or does, but for change or even protest. A vote for what you believe in is never wasted, even if it hasn't a chance of winning. Strategic voting is sad because voters settle for second- or third-best instead of forcing parties to change. And that is why we end up with third-rate leaders.


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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-05-07 11:21 AM
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26. Snark
yeah, it's the Dems fault. Enjoy your brief stay here.
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VegasWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-05-07 11:26 AM
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27. We're all doomed!!! Doomed I say!!! Doomed because of those stinkin' Democrats! nt
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Megahurtz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-05-07 04:00 PM
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41. Sounds about right to me! n/t
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Lint Head Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-05-07 09:38 AM
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20. We need to contact our representatives to stop this!
We are being ruled by a dictator, Dick Cheney and his puppet George Bush. The people need to stand up and say we do not support this.
If the Iranians are willing to let British Marines go they may be willing to negotiate an agreement in the nuclear area. :dem:
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-05-07 10:31 AM
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22. If the world takes the U.S. to court for this unjustified act, do U.S.
citizens have to pay for the lawyers?
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anotherdrew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-05-07 02:19 PM
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39. if this happens we'll ALL be held responsible
this must not happen, and I really don't think it will.

this is the last gasp of the bush gang
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VegasWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-05-07 10:45 AM
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23. I'm getting confused. This is the 3rd April in as many years during which we are
supposed to attack Iran. AS always, I'll believe it when I see it.
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Sequoia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-05-07 11:51 AM
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31. Don't you know how we love to start wars in April.
Revolutionary War, Civil War
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seriousstan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-05-07 10:53 AM
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25. In 120 business days and 48 business hours--------Truthout
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-05-07 11:34 AM
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28. Arab media quoting anonymous sources...seriously.
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VegasWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-05-07 11:38 AM
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30. Shhh!!! Don't let facts get in the way of a good conspiracy story. nt
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leQ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-05-07 11:54 AM
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33. who thinks iran is just going to sit by and let this happen without consequence
this will start a whole new action that could lead to atomic weapons being used. however small the nukes may be, they will be used.
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Megahurtz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-05-07 04:07 PM
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42. For Sure
and also what would make the ArmaggedonMongers in D.C. think that Russia,
China et al, would just sit back and watch?

Stupid, stupid, stupid, stupid move if they do it.

Oh and by the way did I add Fuck Them?:grr:

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IA_Seth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-05-07 01:51 PM
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35. Make your voice heard on this....
Ok, so I know I have posted this same post everywhere, and I may have asked y'all to help me with this before, but I am asking you again now because this truly matters to me and it didn't get many responses the last time I asked for help.

PLEASE visit the website below, sign one or more of the petitions there, send a letter to the editor, do whatever you can and help us try to prevent another war in the Middle East. It doesn't take long, it doesn' require much effort, but if we are able to get enough signatures perhaps it can be used as a tool by our congress to help prevent the Bush admin from another war in our name.

Please help, and please forward this link to as many people as you can.

http://ga4.org/wespac/advocacy/seth.moomey-483535
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melody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-05-07 04:15 PM
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43. They said the same thing LAST April
This is becoming ludicrous.
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mvd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-05-07 05:57 PM
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45. I don't know what to make of this
They are so determined to make the Iraq mess last that they might try to strike Iran under the guise that they are "impeding progress." I hope there are enough sane people in the intelligence agencies for this to be a false alarm.
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-05-07 06:02 PM
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46. wasn't it supposed to April 6?
guess it'll be delayed
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