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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 01:05 PM
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Bush vows to veto Iraq funding bill
Edited on Fri Mar-23-07 01:16 PM by sabra
Source: MSNBC

BREAKING NEWS Bush vows to veto Iraq funding bill

Read more: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/



more:

http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/03/23/iraq.funding/index.html

<snip>

President Bush said the House had abdicated its responsibility to protect the troops and denounced the vote as "political theater."

He said the vote had only one outcome: "It delays the delivery of vital resources for our troops."
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rubberducky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 01:06 PM
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1. Bring It On.
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 05:42 PM
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14. Yes, but will he keep his promise?
After all, his veto statement allows some Dems to vote to throw away billions of more dollars, in the knowledge that the bill will not become law. What if Dubya betrays everyone and signs the bill into law?
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 08:46 PM
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20. An empty threat if I ever heard one. nt
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 01:08 PM
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2. From his speech-the spin is that the Dems AREN'T funding the troops
Which is exactly oppose of what happened. Now W has to VETO FUNDING FOR THE TROOPS but they are trying to make white into black and make it that he is vetoing not funding them.

And you didn't think it could get more bizarro.
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 01:09 PM
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3. He can veto 'til the elephants come home!
At worst, we have him and those who voted for him on record, which will come in handy for unseating those 21 GOP senators next November. And at best, the veto can be overriden. Oh, and congrats on nailing those 218 votes, Nancy--you've passed your first big test!

:bounce:
rocknation
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Frances Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 01:19 PM
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4. Agree
As you point out, now Pelosi is in a very strong position to challenge Bush. If the bill had been defeated, she would have had no weapon with which to battle Bush.
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Bicoastal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 01:30 PM
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5. He is SO going down as the worst president in history...
Not since Herbert Hoover....no, not since James BUCHANAN will a President leave office with more life-and-death issues unresolved. And Buchanan didn't BEGIN his Civil war.

I say we build his library where it belongs--in Baghdad's Green Zone.
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 01:36 PM
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7. Green Zone? Naw, it doesn't deserve to be there. Put it on a street corner in Baghdad.
Let the chips fall where they may. Let the residents shower his library with flowers and greet it with open arms.
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ryanmuegge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 02:04 PM
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13. Let the chips fall where they may...
I agree. This administration is, after all, the ultimate personification social darwinism and capitalism, right? You'd think they'd be in favor for that. Well, at least judging by their rhetoric and academic idols.

Of course, in reality, they hold big business' collective hands and dicks, so I'm sure this won't go for your suggestion.

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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 05:45 PM
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15. Hey, Baghdad has enough problems! No need to demean it further.
Build the damn library on a low-lying island off the coast of Texas, or even on the shore someplace. Then Dubya can worry about how long it will take global warming to submerge it.
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 01:31 PM
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6. Has it passed the Senate already? Isn't veto talk a little premature when it hasn't gotten
through the Senate yet? The final bill could be a different bill. By shouting veto now Bush is boxing himself and the Republicans in. This is Presidential Politics 101.
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Tempest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 01:44 PM
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8. Bush used military personnel as political props
They were standing behind him during his speech.

I thought that was strictly prohibited.
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Marie26 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 01:45 PM
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9. Uh... wouldn't a veto delay those resources for our troops?
Moran.
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Purveyor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 01:53 PM
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10. Then it will be he, that is abandoning the troops. eom
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Whoa_Nelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 01:58 PM
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11. The bill as written (And Bush will Veto??? to NOT provide for our troops???)
Edited on Fri Mar-23-07 01:58 PM by Whoa_Nelly
(Am I missing something here? This is what I found. Why would the troops' needs become a veto item???)

http://majorityleader.house.gov/docUploads/supplementalonepager.pdf

Page 1
U.S. Troop Readiness, Veterans’ Health, and Iraq Accountability Act

Overview
• The U.S. Troop Readiness, Veterans’ Health, and Iraq Accountability Act will
provide our troops with the equipment they need, require Iraqis to take control of
their own country, help fight the war on terror, and establish a date for withdrawal
from Iraq.

1. Giving Our Troops the Equipment They Need, Taking Care of Our
Veterans
• The bill fully supports our troops and ensures they have the tools and resources
they need to do the job they have been asked to do.
• The legislation prohibits the deployment of troops who are not “fully mission
capable” as defined by the Department of Defense – in other words, troops who
are fully trained, equipped and protected. This a reaffirmation of current
Department of Defense standards.
• The President can only deploy “unprepared troops” if he certifies, in writing, to
Congress, that deploying those troops is in the national interest.
• The bill provides funding so the Veterans Administration can meet the obligations
of a new generation of veterans.

2. It’s Time for Iraqis to Take Control of Iraq
• The bill requires the Iraqi government to meet the key security, political and
economic benchmarks established by the President in his January 10 address.

The Iraqis failure to meet these benchmarks will mean the beginning of U.S.
withdrawal from Iraq and will restrict economic aid to the Iraqis.

3. Real Benchmarks, Real Consequences, and a Strategy for Withdrawal
• If progress toward meeting key benchmarks is not made by July 1, 2007, a
redeployment of U.S. troops from Iraq begins immediately and must be
completed within 180 days.
• If key benchmarks are not met by October 1, 2007, a redeployment of U.S. troops
from Iraq begins immediately and must be completed within 180 days.
• Regardless of success, Iraqis must own Iraq. A redeployment of U.S. troops must
begin by no later than March 1, 2008, and be completed within 180 days.
• Following redeployment, U.S. troops remaining in Iraq may only be used for
diplomatic protection, counterterrorism operations, and training of Iraqi Security
Forces.

Page 2

4. Refocusing the War on Terror Against Al-Qaeda and Afghanistan
• Al Qaeda is reconstituting, and the Taliban has grown stronger in Afghanistan.
• The bill significantly increases funding to defeat al Qaeda and terrorists in
Afghanistan.
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 02:03 PM
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12. If dumbass does veto it and if we keep returning it to his desk
then I take back everything bad about our Democratic leadership I just said. However I do not think that will happen.

Why veto when dumbass can just ignore all restrictions?

If dumbass does veto it, I predict out party will splinter and pass a republican bill with no restrictions, toothless or otherwise.
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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 06:27 PM
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16. would this not be idiotson's first ever veto?
if so, isn't a hoot that he is stopping the funding of his very own war.



kudos to Pelosi for designing something that the worst idiot can't sign

:thumbsup:
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Trajan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 06:39 PM
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17. Let that RAT BASTARD veto the funding .....
Creating a timetable to measure success does NOT endanger troops, but cutting off funding does ....

Certainly Bush doesnt think the soldiers are THAT ignorant, does he ?

Maybe he does ...
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sofa king Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 07:13 PM
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18. A veto could bring the troops home MUCH sooner.
Of course, Karl Rove will undoubtedly hit upon the idea of using the troops as hostages, saying they need money to get them home. Just his cup of tea, I should think.
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HuffleClaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 07:19 PM
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19. a VETO will 'delay the delivery...'
and i hope the democrats make that clear.
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VegasWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 09:06 PM
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21. Good, let Halliburton pay for the Oil War then. We need more schools and teachers
here in the US of Capitalism!
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liberal renegade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-24-07 11:04 PM
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22. Georgie Porgie is
going to break out his big bad veto pen. Go ahead dipshit....
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Telly Savalas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-25-07 12:09 AM
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23. By vetoing this bill, doesn't Bush defund the war?
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Prisoner_Number_Six Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-25-07 12:17 AM
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24. I suggest he asks Halliburton to give back those missing billions
so he can make up the shortfall.

It's only right.
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