U.S., Mexico and Canada Discuss Border Issues

[CHIMO]

OTTAWA, Feb. 23 — American, Mexican and Canadian cabinet ministers met here on Friday to set the agenda for a meeting later this year by the leaders of the three countries, with the discussions taking an increased focus on protecting cross-border trade in the face of increasing border security measures.

Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff and Commerce Secretary Carlos Gutierrez met their Canadian and Mexican counterparts amid concerns that new United States border restrictions — particularly the requirement of passports, beginning in January 2008, for land and sea crossings — would hamper the $880 billion in annual trade among the countries.

No firm agenda emerged for a planned meeting later this year of President Bush, President Felipe Calderón of Mexico and Prime Minister Stephen Harper of Canada. But officials here were optimistic that the countries could continue to increase trade despite concerns by Canada over the passport requirement and by Mexico about United States plans to erect a security wall along their border.

“This is a broad agenda that is going to make life better for people, and it is the only way that we can achieve security and prosperity,” Ms. Rice said.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/02/24/world/americas/24canada.html?ref=world

[durtee librul]

1. I just got back from a trip to San Luis Potosi

and the talk there is all about some superhighway to be built from MX to Canada crossing the US. It is to be 18 lanes wide.

Here is the kicker......the ports in MX are being bought by the Chinese and the Saudis who then plan to use this highway to dump goods into the US from the ports and MX.

I don't know if this is true and this is the first I have heard about any such highway....anyone out there hear anything about this?

I can't remember if it is the Japanese or Chinese that control the Panama Canal, but if this rumor is true, then boys and girls, kiss what's left of mfg in the US goombye.

The folks I spoke with are all excited about it as they seem to think with the cheaper labor they are the country with the most to gain. The Canadian gentlemen I was with, shared my concerns and didn't agree with the MX contingent we were with.

Anyhow, any light any of you out there can shed on this would be greatly appreciated. The MX's seem to think this is all part of Bush Sr and Jr's "new world order" he is always talking about. I didn't know enought about the subject to speak well on it, but would love to learn more.

[CHIMO]

2. News For You

It doesn't go to Canada, it goes into Canada.

The north americain trade corridors

Following the implementation of NAFTA, coalitions of interest have been formed in order to promote specific transport channels, to develop the infrastructures of these channels and to propose jurisdictional amendments to facilitate the crossing of borders. These coalitions include businesses, government agencies, civil organizations, metropolitan areas, rural communities and also individuals, wishing to strengthen the commercial hubs of their regions.

The North American trade corridors are bi- or tri-national channels for which various cross-border interests have grouped together in order to develop or consolidate the infrastructures. The North American corridors are considered multimodal in the sense that they bring into play different modes of transport in succession.

The infrastructures may include roads, highways, transit routes, airports, pipelines, railways and train stations, river canal systems and port facilities, telecommunications networks and teleports.
http://fina-nafi.org/eng/integ/corridors.asp?langue=eng&menu=integ

[seafan]

3. Please see this link:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=275025&mesg_id=275025

[durtee librul]

4. Thanks so much for the link!!!!!

Must be Gov Granholm's idea of 'economic' development since it is going to run thru Port Huron. They can't manage the Blue Water bridge, much less a damn super highway 4 football fields wide.

Well, off to email fat ass Stabenow (like she even cares) and Conyers who probably owns some land and will benefit from this....

I am going to go puke.

[Spazito]

5. Oh geez! This statement alone should make everyone's...

blood run cold:


“This is a broad agenda that is going to make life better for people, and it is the only way that we can achieve security and prosperity,” Ms. Rice said."


Given her and the bush cabal's track record, this statement alone scares the crap out of me! "...make life better for people...", riiiiight, that is their top priority for sure! :sarcasm:

[UTUSN]

6. Is this something with the Jerome CORSI conspiracy theory against all of us Dems?

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http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article3994.htm

.... In a column posted yesterday on Salon.com, Joe Conason writes: "Preferring to avoid public scrutiny for obvious reasons, executives at the Carlyle Group usually say nothing about their firm's connections with the Bush dynasty. But last April 23, Carlyle managing director David Rubenstein spoke quite frankly about the comfy sinecure he provided to George W. Bush more than a decade ago -- and how useless Bush turned out to be. Whether he knew it or not, Rubenstein's remarks to the Los Angeles County Employees Retirement Association were recorded."

Rubenstein said, "We put (Bush) on the board and (he) spent three years. Came to all the meetings. Told a lot of jokes. Not that many clean ones. And after a while I kind of said to him, after about three years - you know, I'm not sure this is really for you. Maybe you should do something else. Because I don't think you're adding that much value to the board. You don't know that much about the company.

Rubenstein continued: "He said, 'Well, I think I'm getting out of this business anyway. And I don't really like it that much. So I'm probably going to resign from the board.' And I said, thanks - didn't think I'd ever see him again. His name is George W. Bush. He became President of the United States. So you know if you said to me, name 25 million people who would maybe be President of the United States, he wouldn't have been in that category. So you never know. Anyway, I haven't been invited to the White House for any things." ....

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http://www.spp.gov/

Security and Prosperity Partnership Of North America

http://www.spp.gov/myths_vs_facts.asp Text
Myth vs. Fact
Myth: The SPP was an agreement signed by Presidents Bush and his Mexican and Canadian counterparts in Waco, TX, on March 23, 2005.

Fact: The SPP is a dialogue to increase security and enhance prosperity among the three countries. The SPP is not an agreement nor is it a treaty. In fact, no agreement was ever signed.

Myth: The SPP is a movement to merge the United States, Mexico, and Canada into a North American Union and establish a common currency.

Fact: The cooperative efforts under the SPP, which can be found in detail at www.spp.gov, seek to make the United States, Canada and Mexico open to legitimate trade and closed to terrorism and crime. It does not change our courts or legislative processes and respects the sovereignty of the United States, Mexico, and Canada. The SPP in no way, shape or form considers the creation of a European Union-like structure or a common currency. The SPP does not attempt to modify our sovereignty or currency or change the American system of government designed by our Founding Fathers. ....more



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Security_and_Prosperity_Partnership_of_North_America

Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
.... Canadian criticism has also been directed at the North American Competitiveness Council (NACC), a committee made up of 10 CEOs each from Mexico, the United States and Canada, which has been asked to reduce the over 300 recommendations in the SPP down to about 30 achievable goals. NACC members include CEOs from Wal-Mart, Chevron, Lockheed Martin, FedEx, General Electric and Ford, among others. Of the ten Canadian CEOs on the NACC, nine are members of the Canadian Council of Chief Executives, the driving force behind the North American Free Trade Agreement, and the Canadian representative on the trinational Task Force on the Future of North America, whose recommendations led to the creation of the SPP.

The NACC will meet with government reps from all three countries to discuss their proposals in September 2006.


http://www.humaneventsonline.com/article.php?id=14965

North American Union to Replace USA?

by Jerome R. Corsi
Posted May 19, 2006

.... President Bush intends to abrogate U.S. sovereignty to the North American Union, a new economic and political entity which the President is quietly forming, much as the European Union has formed.

The blueprint President Bush is following was laid out in a 2005 report entitled "Building a North American Community" published by the left-of-center Council on Foreign Relations (CFR). The CFR report connects the dots between the Bush administration's actual policy on illegal immigration and the drive to create the North American Union: ....


http://www.humaneventsonline.com/article.php?id=15497

Bush Administration Quietly Plans NAFTA Super Highway

by Jerome R. Corsi
Posted Jun 12, 2006

.... A good reason Bush does not want to secure the border with Mexico may be that the administration is trying to create express lanes for Mexican trucks to bring containers with cheap Far East goods into the heart of the U.S., all without the involvement of any U.S. union workers on the docks or in the trucks.

Mr. Corsi is the author of several books, including "Unfit for Command: Swift Boat Veterans Speak Out Against John Kerry" (along with John O'Neill), "Black Gold Stranglehold: The Myth of Scarcity and the Politics of Oil" (along with Craig R. Smith), and "Atomic Iran: How the Terrorist Regime Bought the Bomb and American Politicians." He is a frequent guest on the G. Gordon Liddy radio show. He will soon co-author a new book with Jim Gilchrist on the Minuteman Project.

http://www.humaneventsonline.com/article.php?id=15623

North American Union Would Trump U.S. Supreme Court

by Jerome R. Corsi
Posted Jun 19, 2006

The Bush Administration is pushing to create a North American Union out of the work on-going in the Department of Commerce under the Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America in the NAFTA office headed by Geri Word. A key part of the plan is to expand the NAFTA tribunals into a North American Union court system that would have supremacy over all U.S. law, even over the U.S. Supreme Court, in any matter related to the trilateral political and economic integration of the United States, Canada and Mexico. ....

http://www.wnd.com/news/archives.asp?AUTHOR_ID=246

Coming soon to U.S.: Mexican customs office

Monday, June 05, 2006 by Jerome R. Corsi -- Kansas City is planning to allow the Mexican government to open a Mexican customs office in conjunction with the Kansas City SmartPort. This will be the first foreign customs facility allowed to operate on U.S. soil.

Southern border blurs for global trade

Thursday, June 01, 2006 by Jerome R. Corsi -- The Texas segment of the NAFTA Super Corridor is moving rapidly toward approval. When built, the Trans-Texas Corridor, or TTC, will be a major super-highway with six lanes mo ...

Bush border policy linked to Carlyle deal?

Tuesday, May 23, 2006 by Jerome R. Corsi -- In January 2004, the Carlyle Group put together a new team to begin investing in Mexico. The team consisted of Luis T鬬ez, who was then an executive vice president of Desc, one of Mexico's larges ...

Immigration reform spells death for GOP

Friday, May 19, 2006 by Jerome R. Corsi -- To measure what exactly the Senate is doing in putting together a "Comprehensive Immigration Reform" bill, we have to ask what is going to change after the bill is passed: No illegal immigrant currently in the United Stat ...

Border fence will never be built

Thursday, May 18, 2006 by Jerome R. Corsi -- The Senate voted to approve the amendment submitted by Sen. Jeff Sessions, R-Ala., to build a 370-mile section of triple-layered fence along the Mexican border. Now the Bush administration is trying to push this as a victory for conservative ...


http://mediamatters.org/items/200408060010

MMFA investigates: Who is Jerome Corsi, co-author of Swift Boat Vets attack book?

....
• Corsi on Islam: "a worthless, dangerous Satanic religion"

• Corsi on Catholicism: "Boy buggering in both Islam and Catholicism is okay with the Pope as long as it isn't reported by the liberal press"

• Corsi on Muslims: "RAGHEADS are Boy-Bumpers as clearly as they are Women-Haters -- it all goes together"

• Corsi on "John F*ing Commie Kerry": "After he married TerRAHsa, didn't John Kerry begin practicing Judiasm? He also has paternal grandparents that were Jewish. What religion is John Kerry?"

• Corsi on Senator "FAT HOG" Clinton: "Anybody ask why HELLary couldn't keep BJ Bill satisfied? Not lesbo or anything, is she?" ....

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[kurth]

7. What border ISSUES?

What border?

[ensho]

8. their 'broad agenda' is to have the borders open

why aren't the dems in the house and senate talking about this and fighting against this?

are they complicit and are secretly for the union of the 3 countries and the superhighway/mexican drivers?

ask a dem sen. or rep. about this and they change the subject.

[hogwyld]

10. The reason they're not fighting this

The Dems are waiting for the whole thing to become like the EU parliament, and they are already counting up the poor Mexicans as probable lifelong Dem voters.

[jaksavage]

9. Zis vill be vunderful

The sheeples will love the plastic junk we provide at rock bottom prices, with a smile. We can keep the sheeples happy, we can keep them clad in style.