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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-29-07 09:57 AM
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U.S.: Iran giving weapons to kill troops

http://www.fortwayne.com/mld/newssentinel/16572117.htm

U.S.: Iran giving weapons to kill troops
Associated Press

WASHINGTON - Deeply distrustful of Iran, the White House expressed skepticism Monday about Tehran's plans to greatly expand its economic and military ties with Iraq, where the United States has accused Iran of supporting terrorism and supplying weapons to kill American forces.

"If Iran wants to quit playing a destructive role in the affairs of Iraq and wants to play a constructive role, we would certainly welcome that," National Security Council spokesman Gordon Johndroe said. But, he said, "We've seen little evidence to date (of constructive activities) and frankly all we have seen is evidence to the contrary."

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Iran's plans in Iraq were outlined by Iranian Ambassador Hassan Kazemi Qumi in an interview with The New York Times. He said Iran was prepared to offer Iraqi government forces training, equipment and advisers for what he called "the security fight," the newspaper reported. He said that in the economic area, Iran was ready to assume major responsibility for the reconstruction of Iraq.

"We have experience of reconstruction after war," the ambassador said, referring to the Iran-Iraq war in the 1980s. "We are ready to transfer this experience in terms of reconstruction to the Iraqis."
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-29-07 10:02 AM
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1. uh oh iran is cutting into halliburton and blackwater's profits! watch out!
dick and george will not allow the iranians to ruing the US war profiteers plans to rake in the $$ using american soldiers as the
human shields.

Msongs
www.youtube.com/videos/msongs
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-29-07 10:04 AM
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2. I do not know what to believe anymore.
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endarkenment Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-29-07 10:06 AM
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3. Why would Iran give weapons to Sunni insurgents?
makes zero sense. Of course the bullshitters in the white house count on our being too stupid to ask basic questions about their assertions.

Insurgents: almost all of them are sunni. Iran: shiite dominated theocratic republic. Iraq (former state of): in the midst of breaking up into shiite, sunni arab, and kurdish regions while under occupation by the american forces.

Our occupation has built a shiite dominated 'Iraqi Army'. The occupation forces are opposed not by the shiite militias who are getting training and weapons from us through the fiction of the Iraqi Army, but by the Sunni militias who have been cut entirely out of power and have nothing much to lose by fighting our occupation to the end. Iran is sitting by the side watching us build an Iranian aligned shiite government in Iraq for them.
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-29-07 10:31 AM
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4. That just about sums it up.
Edited on Mon Jan-29-07 10:35 AM by leveymg
Iran has no reason to undermine the al-Maliki regime, which is dominated by the Shi'a SCIRI organization of Ayatollah al-Hakim and the more militant Shi'a sect led by al-Sadr.

The Sunnis boycotted the January 2005 Parliamentary elections. Large IEDs first emerged as a useful weapon during the early summer of 2005 in Sunni-held territories west and north of Baghdad. The second round of elections in December produced a more balanced outcome, but the Shi'a still held 60 percent of the seats, along with the Prime Minister's office and control over most of the ministries and the Army.

Once the Shi'a control in Baghdad was assured, Iran lost all reason to actively oppose the U.S.-backed central government. Iran will get its new western province, southern Iraq, when the U.S. leaves. That reality dawned on Saudi Arabia, which is Sunni, and they effectively put the brakes on the withdrawal. The Turks also opposed further progress toward formalization of a Kurdish state in North Iraq. Israel opposes any outcome that strengthens Iran. The Bush Administration thinks that somehow or another it can change the inevitable -- a three-state solution -- if they stall and bluster, and threaten World War long enough.

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C_U_L8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-29-07 10:32 AM
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5. What evidence?
And even if they cooked up some evidence..
why should we believe them in the first place?
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C_U_L8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-29-07 10:32 AM
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6. dupe
Edited on Mon Jan-29-07 10:32 AM by C_U_L8R

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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-29-07 10:44 AM
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7. AP story : Iran gets army gear in Pentagon sale
Edited on Mon Jan-29-07 10:45 AM by EVDebs
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070116/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/military_surplus_stings

"good stewards of taxpayer dollars" ? Is the DoD this dumb or what ? Anyone want to bring a contributory negligence charge up ?
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-29-07 10:53 AM
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8. Didn't the commander of the British forces in the south, where
most the cross border connections between Iran and Shi'ite Iraq exist, say there was NO evidence that weapons were coming across the border? Just in the last month, I think.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-29-07 11:35 AM
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11. I also heard that, that our military did not see anything like arms
going across the border.
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MrPrax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-29-07 10:59 AM
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9. Thx for this!!!
It's not often I get a chance to read the Fort Wayne, Indiana's News Sentinel for information about Iran, US foreign policy and WH press releases.

DU is really becoming a great place for this cutting edge stuff you can't get anywhere...

Good work for bring this to our attention and not let it get buried by the MSM

:yourock:

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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-29-07 11:34 AM
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10. our evil regime is playing the same old hand again, they are
playing us for fools.
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-29-07 12:11 PM
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12. K&R and a link to an earlier post from you: Scant evidence found of Iran-Iraq arms link
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-29-07 01:01 PM
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13. In a word...
Bullshit.
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itsmesgd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-29-07 01:05 PM
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14. CNN: U.S. Says Iran is Shipping Weapons to Iraqi Insurgents
They call it a developing story. I call it banging on the war drums.
CNN has been puching harder that the chimp to link Iran and Iraq, do they have a special deal to cover the war, like they did in Desert Storm? I wonder who has newspeople on the ground in Tehran?
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