Furor over British expert's death

[Pale Blue Dot]

LONDON – A row between the British government and the BBC over the motive for the Iraq war has turned toxic following the apparent suicide of a government "mole" at the heart of the affair, with the fallout spreading deep into the cabinet and up to Prime Minister Tony Blair himself.

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Mr. Blair has shaken off calls for his own resignation, but the spectacle of a reporter asking him if he had "blood on his hands" at the weekend has hurt him in opinion polls.

The latest survey, a YouGov poll published in the Daily Telegraph Monday, showed that 59 percent of Britons think less of Blair now than they did before Kelly died, and that 39 percent believe he should quit. Just 18 percent trust the government in its stand-off with the BBC. Two of Blair's senior advisers, press chief Alastair Campbell and defense minister Geoff Hoon, are considered vulnerable.

http://www.csmonitor.com/2003/0722/p06s01-woeu.html

[twilight]

1. buh bye poodle boy

Doesn't look the poodle has a chance, even after his big 'speech' before the Senate in which he said nothing once again but the same old crud.

Maybe he'll resign soon. I betcha that will be next - better than being 'removed' I'd say.

:D

[Ready4Change]

2. Has anyone reported finding a suicide note?

Don't most determined suicides leave notes?

[Tinoire]

3. Ink will be dry any minute now.... n/t

[lightbulb]

9. He would have left a note

This guy has been roundly described as having been a very kind and conscientious person. Someone like that wouldn't just up and intentionally leave his loved ones behind without at least an attempt to explain why he decided to go. Does not make sense at all.

(edit) clarified point.

[AbbPoacher]

4. Dr Kellys final e mails were to J. Miller and Alastair Hay.

Miller writes for the nyt and wrote abook on Bioweapons.She also recieved an anthrax letter in 2001. Prof. Hay, also a bioweapons expert, wrote for the Guardian.Hay recently criticized Rumsfeld for his call to use chemical weapons against Iraq. Last september Hay's wife committed suicide ,by hanging, she was on prozac. Kelly's death is not about the BBC or the Dossier. I suspect it's Anthrax.

[Desperadoe]

5. I suspect it's Anthrax

And I suspect that you are right as rain. I have thought this from the first time I heard of the "suicide". Weapons, my ass. That's not worth the effort but anthrax is the key to the realm. Prove the anthrax came from the Bushco and They are meat.

These thugs always have us chasing our tails and going on snipe hunts.

[AbbPoacher]

6. Bioport = Carlyle

<http://www.newsinsider.org/seal/ancient_evils.html>

[Starpass]

7. Anthrax--would love to hear more

I would love to hear more about this Kelly. It always seemed to me real obvious that the people sent the deadly stuff were Democrats. Yes, easy to pass off in the climate we were then living under BUT why the hell Dems. Any self-respecting terrorist would be after Bush and his repuke regime as their big enemy....not the opposition. I think obviously we were dealing with people who wanted Dem people dead. Since I have all sorts of reservations about 9/11 and this Bush crime family, I am always interested in tracing our unfortunate "incidents" back to the source. Cannot the people of this nation realize we literally have "organized crime" of a very special and evil variety romping through our White House???

[AbbPoacher]

8. Bioport = Porton Down , Kelly worked tere in the 90s.

The 'ames strain' anthrax came though PD , Ft Detrick.<http://www.unknownnews.net/cdd081202.html>.

[DoYouEverWonder]

11. Kelly knew the US had sold anthrax to Saddam

Because he had seen Saddam's copies of the receipts. You could say that Kelly was a man who knew too much.


http://www.globalpolicy.org/security/issues/iraq/2001/1022iraq.htm

Iraq Purchased Anthrax From US Company:
Baghdad Admitted 'Weaponizing' The Biological Agent,A UN Inspector Says

By Joe Lauria
Vancouver Sun
October 22, 2001

Iraq purchased eight strains of anthrax from a U.S. company and admitted turning them into weapons.

David Kelly, a former British Foreign Office expert who led 37 UN biological weapons inspections of Iraq in the '90s, said the Virginia-based American Type Culture Collection company admitted selling the anthrax strains to Saddam Hussein's government in 1985.

The company confirmed to the UN that it sold the anthrax to Iraq through a mail order, Kelly said in a telephone interview from London. Anthrax is now being sent through the mail in a series of terrorist attacks, though U.S. investigators have not yet linked these to any group.

In 1985, there were no U.S. sanctions against Iraq, which was an American ally at the time in Baghdad's war against Iran.

more...

[DrBB]

10. Miller's "anthrax letter" turned out to be bogus

Worth keeping in mind: the "antrhax letter" she received turned out to be a fake. Don't recall all the details, but given the nature of the subject matter she based her career on, and recent questions about her veracity and the ease with which she has been manipulated by Ahmed Chalabi, I don't think her role in all this is above suspicion. It wouldn't surprise me at all to find out that Kelly trusted her even as she was funneling his confidences to those "dark figures" he was talking about.

Matter o' fact, it's entirely possible that his decision to leave the "safe house" (I'd LOVE to know more about that) and his email to Miller could have been part of an attempt--an all too successful one--to flush those "dark figures" out of the brush. Too bad that judicial inquiry is bound to be a whitewash.

[Samantha]

12. I don't want to muddy the waters any more than what they are

but I am sure you know there are many CIA agents working as "embedded" reporters for broadcasting companies and nationally known newspapers.

This might be an incidental fact or a totally relevant piece of this puzzle. Too early to tell.

[AbbPoacher]

13. Miller July 2 ,03 article Hatfill and secret lab.

>>according to administration officials and experts in germ weaponry.
<http://www.ph.ucla.edu/epi/bioter/antigermtraining.html>,Also Hays article on Rummy March 03.<http://www.guardian.co.uk/analysis/story/0,3604,912338,00.html>.

[Gman]

14. Do we know if it was suicide from a .22 caliber pistol with rat shot

to the back of the head???