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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 03:18 PM
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Pentagon memo reveals launch of new PR war

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/front/4297464.html

Pentagon memo reveals launch of new PR war
Associated Press

WASHINGTON The Pentagon is buttressing its public relations staff and starting an operation akin to a political campaign war room as Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld faces intensifying criticism over the Iraq war.

In a memo obtained by the Associated Press, Dorrance Smith, assistant secretary of defense for public affairs, said new teams of people will "develop messages" for the 24-hour news cycle and "correct the record."

The memo describes an operation modeled after a political campaign such as that made famous by Bill Clinton's successful 1992 presidential race calling for a "Rapid Response" section for quickly answering opponents' assertions.

...

Ruff said today that the reorganization, spearheaded by Smith, will help the department "set the record straight" and provide accurate, timely information.

He denied that the effort was set up to respond to the eroding public support for the war, or that it was aimed at helping in next week's elections. He also said he would not call it an "information operations" program, which generally refers to a propaganda-type campaign.


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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 03:20 PM
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1. Uhm... I am pretty sure that's illegal. n/t
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Justitia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 03:22 PM
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2. Why doesn't the f'ing Pentagon concentrate on keeping soldiers alive instead of word games?
Hellloooo Pentagon! 100 of your soldiers died this month!

But, don't let me distract you from your word smithing, you worthless jerk offs!
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Ezlivin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 03:32 PM
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5. Because PR is easier than actually doing the fucking work
A poster on DU has a sig line that says "Governing by PR" and that really sums it up.

Sure, they could spend time, money and effort to correct problems, but it is so much more fun to spend time, money and effort crafting propaganda to convince us that they've done all they could.

With every day I hate these fuckers more and more.

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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 07:25 PM
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18. The Fucking War Criminal generals are covering their asses
History is going to judge these criminals very harshly

using propaganda to "KEEP UP THE KILLING" on the amerikan people
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coalition_unwilling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 03:33 PM
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6. Laterst iteration of the 5 O'Clock Follies, cmmemorated in
David Halberstam's "The Best and the Brightest" (ironic title that, for the geniuses who brought us the war in southeast Asia).
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iconoclastic cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 03:24 PM
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3. Holy crap! Can I repost this to Daily Kos? nt
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holboz Donating Member (641 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 04:08 PM
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49. self-delete
Edited on Tue Oct-31-06 04:09 PM by holboz
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 03:27 PM
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4. ha! n\t
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 03:35 PM
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7. Bush's Pentagon couldn't muster a pea shooter on 9/11
Edited on Mon Oct-30-06 03:36 PM by SpiralHawk
to defend themselves, even with an hour's unmistakeable warning.

But when it comes to pimping the propaganda, they are Johnny On The Spot.

That's what happens when you have an AWOL preppy from Connecticut as your so-called Commander-in-Chief
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kurth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 03:38 PM
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8. How much are we paying for this War Propaganda Department?
on top of all the other war propaganda departments in the Bush government.
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 03:54 PM
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10. the Political Wing of the Pentagon is reving the Tax Payer Engines
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pecwae Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 03:41 PM
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9. Sounds like a collaboration
between PAO and PSYOPS. In PSYOPS one develops messages for a target audience based on what research has shown to be the audiences sympathetic, psychological, emotional, or communal weakness or vulnerability. In training I was told that use of this type of persuasion against US nationals was illegal, Black PSYOPS. I guess the rules have changed in the 20 years since I served.
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ShockediSay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 10:02 PM
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22. collaberation of crooks, liars, spin doctors & lobbyists
BushCo!
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 04:48 PM
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11. answer this quickly--what did Cheney mean by "dunking?"
Quick!

some Rapid response team they are--still stumbling over that one!
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 06:29 AM
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33. Just a little DUNKING





The woman was convicted of nagging and gossiping at the tribunal and was sentenced to be dunked on the dunking stool. This enactment of a Bermuda tradition.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 05:00 PM
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12. let's not spend the money on an actual plan for the occupation
or for body armor
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NVMojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 06:08 PM
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13. bend me over and make me pay for more of this bullshit lying
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TexasLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 06:42 PM
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16. exactly--
Your hard-earned tax dollars at work!

I'm glad we're not building schools or roads with that money!!! :sarcasm:
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vixengrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 06:27 PM
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14. "We will fight them on the talk shows,
we will fight them on the sound bites and slogans, we will fight them on the cable news programs..."

Doesn't have the same ring.
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frylock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 06:41 PM
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15. building a bigger propaganda catapult, no doubt
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 06:57 PM
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17. Are we going to see Pentagon pukes posting in DU, Kos, etc?
And what are we going to do about it?
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 07:26 PM
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19. I invite those idiots here for a little troll fun
Ass-clowns
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 07:42 PM
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20. If they work for Rumsfeld...
they are probably chicken hawks!
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 05:59 AM
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28. Probably they sure aren't "Walking the Walk"
Hiding behind a computer in the "C" Ring
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Maeve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 06:18 AM
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31. What makes you think they haven't been already?
:tinfoilhat:

I'm not being quite fair--the fact of psy-op posters is pretty well established, not really tin-foil stuff. And here, just hit alert and let the mods do their thing. People trying to convince us that Cheney is right aren't going to get converts on DU, anyway.
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teryang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 09:44 PM
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21. federally financed gutter of talking point lies
What's new about it? It's still illegal.
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Eugene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 10:25 PM
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23. If the Clinton admin tried this, righties would have screamed "dictatorship!"
Ten short years ago, the black helicopter crowd would have
gone absolutely berzerk (okay, even more than they did)
about the government getting into the propaganda business.
A taxpayer funded operation to promote the government's
point of view in the news media goes way over the line.
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neverforget Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 11:07 PM
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24. Trying to put more lipstick on a pig.....too bad rhetoric doesn't stop
bullets,IEDs and hatred of an occupying power. Meanwhile in Iraq, more civilians and US troops die while changing course but staying the course policy. :eyes: :puke: :mad:
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 11:21 PM
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25. 101 dead Americans, October 2006.
"correct" that "message".
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Heidi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 03:54 AM
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26. Kick.
:kick:
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CornField Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 03:55 AM
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27. Pentagon boosts 'media war' unit (BBC)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/6100906.stm

The US defence department has set up a new unit to better promote its message across 24-hour rolling news outlets, and particularly on the internet.

The Pentagon said the move would boost its ability to counter "inaccurate" news stories and exploit new media.
...
The unit would reportedly monitor media such as weblogs and would also employ "surrogates", or top politicians or lobbyists who could be interviewed on TV and radio shows.
...
On Monday, US Vice President Dick Cheney also made reference to the use of media, suggesting insurgents had increased their attacks and were checking the internet to keep track of American public opinion.

(more at link)
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moodforaday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 06:03 AM
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29. K&R for the new Ministry of
Truth.
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 06:13 AM
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30. Can the faux commercials be far behind? nt
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 06:22 AM
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32. Just like the Republicans..
... they can't win a real war they might as well go for a PR war.

It's not going to work but you can't be surprised they will try.
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holboz Donating Member (641 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 07:52 AM
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34. BBC: Rumsfeld starts new Propoganda Unit to show "true picture of events in Iraq"
Edited on Tue Oct-31-06 07:40 AM by holboz
Despite the violence, the BBC's Justin Webb in Washington says that the Bush administration does not believe the true picture of events in Iraq has been made public.

<snip>

In response the US defence department has set up a new unit to better promote its message across 24-hour rolling news outlets, and particularly on the internet.

The Pentagon said the move would boost its ability to counter "inaccurate" news stories and exploit new media.

<snip>

A Pentagon memo seen by the Associated Press news agency said the new unit would "develop messages" for the 24-hour news cycle and aim to "correct the record".


>>>>>>
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/6101178.stm

This is part of a larger news story that starts off talking about Cheney's belief that Iraqis are trying to influence US elections. They claim in the article that this unit was NOT set up in response to eroding public support for the war. YEAH, RIGHT.
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n2doc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 07:52 AM
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35. And just like previous efforts this one will fail
They can't even do propaganda right. No one will believe/care about the crap they put out. Even Fox will find it laughable....
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 07:52 AM
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36. Uh...if it's the TRUE PICTURE he wouldn't need PROPAGANDA
But the fauxcons and the freeps will eat it up, I'm sure. I can't believe ANYBODY falls for this shit!

.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 07:52 AM
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37. No indication how much this is going to cost
I wonder if anyone's going to go without body armor or other essentials so Rumsfeld can show his "true picture"? And will the "true picture of events in Iraq" include that little tidbit?
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chat_noir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 07:52 AM
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38. You Tube video: Pentagon Launches Pre-Emptive Strike on Media
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Binka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 07:52 AM
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39. Shit-Fire Further Down The Rabbit Hole
More Zuu Zuus & Wham Whams. What absolute nonsense. Hey Rummy YOU ARE A TOTAL UNMITIGATED FAILURE! Dumb ass boob.
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 12:22 PM
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40. Get ready for a troll invasion!!
Snip--> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/6100906.stm

"The US defence department has set up a new unit to better promote its message
across 24-hour rolling news outlets, and particularly on the internet.

"The unit would reportedly monitor media such as weblogs and would also employ "surrogates"


AKA Trolls!!! :spank:

:nuke:
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montieg Donating Member (454 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 12:42 PM
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41. CNN: Pentagon developing public relations response team
Is this 'stinky' or is that just my upper lip?


WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The Pentagon has begun a new "rapid response" operation to quickly respond to news media stories critical of Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld and the war in Iraq, as well as other stories the Defense Department leadership doesn't like.

The operation is similar to those used in political campaigns, but officials say the new organization was not started specifically because of rising criticism of the war.

Defense Department Press Secretary Eric Ruff could not immediately provide statistics regarding the cost of the new operation or the number of people involved. He confirmed, however, that it is expected some of the new staff members will be political appointees or contractors.

-- CNN Pentagon Correspondent Barbara Star
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Rick Myers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 12:42 PM
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42. The Ministry of Disinformation
Right outta BRAZIL!!! (the movie)
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tblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 12:42 PM
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43. Oh great. Don't fix the policy or address the failures, manipulate the PR
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 12:42 PM
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48. That's the BushCo approach to EVERYTHING.
Don't stop whatever crime you're committing, rephrase it.
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Hugin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 12:42 PM
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44. Sorry Donny, if you can't stand the heat stay out of the kitchen...
Protecting the Secretary of Defense is not in the charter of the US Military.
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 12:42 PM
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45. Yes, it's called "CNN"
If you've been watching today, you know what I mean. It's been one long pro-GOP, Yay Iraq! infomercial.

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rumpel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 12:42 PM
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46. Agree
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Historic NY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 12:42 PM
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47. Hey what did they do hire Bagdad Bob.......
Edited on Tue Oct-31-06 12:17 PM by Historic NY


Least we can get some sense........
"That bastard the American Minister of Defense Rumsfeld, and I won't say shamelessly, because they don't know what shame means. These are criminals. The whole word can hear the warning sirens. This criminal sitting in the White House is a pathetic criminal and his Defense Minister deserves to be beaten. These criminals lie to the world because they are criminals by nature and conditioning. They consider this a military site! Shame on you! You will forever be shamed! You have ruined the reputation of the American people in the most terrible way! Shame on you! And we will destroy you!"

http://www.welovetheiraqiinformationminister.com /



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shanti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 04:16 PM
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50. "correct the record"???
ohhhhhh, they mean SCRUB the record! :eyes:
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IA_Seth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 04:23 PM
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51. How much of the budget is for paper-shredders?! n/t
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