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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-28-06 10:19 AM
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Calif. Vet Slams GOP Congressional Foe
(AP) A Democratic Vietnam veteran running for Congress lashed out at his Republican opponent Friday after a series of Republican-financed attacks questioning his support for U.S. troops.

In a rare display of anger, retired Air Force Maj. Charlie Brown called Republican Rep. John Doolittle a coward who is "hiding behind the flag" and slammed him for failing to serve in Vietnam.

"While I was being shot at in Vietnam, John Doolittle was practicing his tennis game at (the University of California) Santa Cruz," Brown said during a news conference as he was surrounded by fellow veterans.

Brown, 56, left the Air Force in 1998 after 26 years of service. His wife, Jan, also served in the Air Force as a nurse and his son, Jeff, is an Air Force captain who will begin his fourth tour of duty in Iraq in December.

Doolittle campaign spokesman Richard Robinson said the campaign was "thrilled" Brown decided to bring attention to such issues.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/10/28/ap/politics/m...
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-28-06 10:28 AM
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1. Appearing with none other than WES CLARK!
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wakeme2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-28-06 10:32 AM
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2. And Doolittle may have a little LEGAL problem too
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

From that thread

Rumors flying out of the US Justice Department say that three new indictments in the Jack Abramoff bribery scandal are now prepared but are being held back until after Election Day.

The few remaining Democratic attorneys in the Bush Justice Department have been grumbling about the obvious political agenda behind this delay. More Members of Congress falling to the Abramoff investigation is hardly the October Surprise that Karl Rove has been looking for.

The two about to face the music are Senator Conrad Burns of Montana and Congressman John Doolittle of California according to sources inside Justice.

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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-28-06 10:42 AM
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3. Brown's anger is righteous. His son will be serving his 4th tour
in Iraq? That is so wrong...
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BrotherBuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-28-06 05:03 PM
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16. Charlie's son even copiloted Doolittle in Iraq, yet...
Doolittle didn't acknowledge or speak to him.

<snip>

John (Doolittle) was with a Congressional delegation there, and they needed to take a flight from Baghdad to Talafar. So the delegation helicoptered out from the Green Zone to Baghdad airport in two Blackhawks.

The Air Force called up a C-130 transport aircraft to fly them. The C-130 crew was waiting and ready to go as the Blackhawks were coming in, and they got a couple of messages from the tower. "Is anyone from the crew from Florida?" Because Katherine Harris was part of the delegation. (Yes, that Katherine Harris.) "Is anyone from the crew from Connecticut?" Because Christopher Shays was part of the delegation. And the crew gets one more request: "Can one of the members of the delegation ride up in the cockpit?" You see, C-130s aren't real comfortable - there are only troop seats in the back cargo area. The cockpit isn't a lot better, but it's a little more comfortable, quieter, and it's not a troop seat. The crew wasn't crazy about visitors riding up there with them, but you can't say no to a Congressman.

Of course, this member of the delegation was John Doolittle. John sat down in the cockpit and spoke for a minute with the aircraft commander. He didn't say anything to the rest of the crew. Nothing to the flight engineer. Or the navigator. Or the copilot. He didn't ask any of them where they were from. Or what it's like in Iraq. Or what he and the rest of Congress could do to help.

The flight was just over an hour up to Talafar and uneventful. As the congressional delegation was climbing off the airplane, the copilot leaned over to ask the aircraft commander to give John a message. So the aircraft commander went down to the ramp to see the delegation off, and as John stepped off the C-130 and onto the ramp the aircraft commander said to him: "Congressman Doolittle: Charlie Brown and his son hope you had a nice flight."

The copilot was my son, Jeff Brown, Air Force Captain.

John Doolittle sat next to my son for over an hour and didn't ask him his name. He didn't ask him where he was from. (Jeff, of course, is from John's District here in California.) He didn't ask how long Jeff had been in Iraq. (It was Jeff's third tour, and he's now scheduled for his fourth.) And he didn't ask what Congress could do to help him and the rest of the troops there in Iraq.

But I've asked. And Jeff told me, that if John had asked what he needed, he would have asked to make sure Congress fixes the cracks in the C-130 wings, because many of the aircraft are grounded, and many more are restricted on how much weight they can carry, and they're flying the heck out of those planes. Jeff would have asked to make sure Congress gives good medical care to the wounded, because he flies them out of Iraq. And Jeff said he would have asked to make sure Congress gives the best care to the families of the remains of fallen soldiers, because he flies them out of Iraq too.

But John Doolittle didn't ask. He didn't talk to the airmen. They were just his drivers that day. John Doolittle sat next to my son for over an hour and didn't have the courtesy to even ask his name.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/8/23/135031/456
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sarge43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-28-06 11:13 AM
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4. Have to wonder if Doolittle has any kids and
if they're getting shot at anywhere.

Probably not.
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robertarctor Donating Member (831 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-28-06 11:21 AM
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7. Doolittle's a Mormon. He's got a bunch of kids, IIRC.
But I doubt any of them are serving their country in uniform.
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sarge43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-28-06 12:08 PM
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11. Yeah, I'd be surprised if any were n/t
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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-28-06 04:27 PM
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13. Doolittle the Chickenhawk
has a funny ring to it.
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sarge43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-28-06 06:05 PM
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17. It's a damn shame he shares the name with General Jimmy Doolittle
I hope they're not related.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-28-06 11:13 AM
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5. Also Brown raised more money in the 1st 3 weeks of Oct. than Doolittle, plus
Brown's wife doesn't get a cut of it unlike Julie Doolittle who gets %15 of what her husband raises. Brown is running commercials locally on television, it gives me hope the CA 4 might go democratic.
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4bucksagallon Donating Member (324 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-28-06 11:16 AM
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6. What is it with these damn chickenhawks, how are they connecting to voters
when they have no respect for this country. They never serve in the military and yet when it comes to getting elected they garner more votes than "a real vet" I am at a loss for words. I just wish conscription was back. I think that if the danger "we" face now were evenly distributed with the country club reptiles this craziness in Iraq would slowly end and we could get back to actually hunting down OBL.
DAMNIT BRING BACK THE DRAFT or end this bullshit once and for all. I hate chickenhawks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Maybe it has to do with seeing so many of my friends die in Nam but if I was running for office and one of these chickenshit chickenhawks questioned my patriotism there would be a "SMACKDOWN" on the spot, probably why I never run, too much anger and no management.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-28-06 11:24 AM
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9. CA 4 is located in the most populist gop county in California
the fact the Brown is doing well says something big. I live in CA 3 we're about evenly split here. Place county is the new san diego in terms of republican voters. Brown and Doolittle had only 1 debate because thats all Doolittle would agree to, it was carried only by a tiny cable compnay with 20,000 subscribers so almost no one got to see the actual debate, Brown had many supporters outside, Doolittle had none. I think Placer county has had enough of the Doolittle's.
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Pastiche423 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-28-06 04:41 PM
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14. OBL is dead
But I would love a real investigation into 9/11.
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Monkeyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-28-06 11:22 AM
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8. Don't mess with a vet
We fight back LOL
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sarge43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-28-06 12:06 PM
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10. Now that you mention it
From the IAVA info you posted in the vet's forum. Doolittle has a C minus voting record vis-a-vis veteran support. He voted against the latest Tricare funding package. Thanks heaps chickenhawk.

http://capwiz.com/iava/bio/?id=403submit.x=13&submit.y=...
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Monkeyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-28-06 04:01 PM
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12. Here some back up look under vote veteran
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badgervan Donating Member (745 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-28-06 04:44 PM
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15. Check Acts, Not Words, Before Voting
It always amazes and depresses me to see so many vets vote republican. All the studies that I have seen show the dems with much more positive voting records concerning veteran's issues/funding, etc. - and the repubs with under 50% positive ratings - consistently in the minus ratings! Every year! Yet the bush enablers constantly bloviate on how their patriotism and toughness is unmatched by those of us on the dem side! Drives me nuts!
Gotta check the voting records of these masters of spin on the right before you give them your vote. I would personally rather see billions of our tax dollars go into the VA system than into the pockets of the Halliburton pigs. So many righty frauds in Congress at present: Allen, Lewis, Holy Joe, Pombo, Burns, Hoekstra, the Big Dick vice-prez, and so many, many more.
I hope that voters see through these despicable frauds, and elect honest dems to replace them with, so we can begin the hard work of restoring morality, honesty, and responsibility in our government.
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