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Eugene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 07:46 PM
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AP: Judge: Times Must Reveal Anthrax Sources (Hatfill lawsuit)
Judge: Times Must Reveal Anthrax Sources

By MATTHEW BARAKAT
The Associated Press
Monday, October 23, 2006; 4:46 PM

ALEXANDRIA, Va. -- A federal judge ordered The New York Times to disclose
a columnist's confidential sources as part of a libel lawsuit filed over the
newspaper's coverage of the 2001 anthrax attacks.

Former Army scientist Steven Hatfill, once identified by authorities as a
"person of interest" in the anthrax mailings that killed five people in late
2001, is suing the Times for libel for a series of articles written by
columnist Nicholas Kristof.

The order issued Friday by U.S. Magistrate Judge Liam O'Grady requires the
newspaper to disclose the identities of three of Kristof's sources, including
two FBI sources who allegedly provided some of the most incriminating
information in Kristof's columns. The order was made public Monday.

-snip-

Hatfill's lawyers said they need to question the sources to see if Kristof's
reporting was accurate. The FBI sources told the Times that Hatfill was one
of a limited number of people with the access and technical expertise to
manufacture the anthrax and that he failed several lie-detector tests.

-snip-

Full article: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/20...
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bobbie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 09:25 PM
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1. Hm, civil suits often solve crimes or further cases
For example the E. Howard Hunt vs Liberty Lobby libel case wherein hunt sued LL for defamation and the jury ended up deciding against Hunt because he was in Dallas when he said he wasn't--Nov 22, 1963. Therefore he was involved in the murder of President Kennedy.

And Dr Martin Luther King's family filed a civil suit against one of the conspirators in Memphis, won the case, and the crime is basically solved. Not that the perps will ever go to jail since it was a civil case.

And of course the infamous OJ case.

So often, when the government won't do its job, civil cases will get some of the job done.
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susanna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 10:57 PM
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4. Which might be why the GOP despises (civil) trial lawyers... n/t
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bobbie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-24-06 01:24 AM
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5. Mmmmm hmmmmmm
That and the fact that we live in a corporatocracy and trial lawyers can cost companies a lot of money when someone is harmed as a result of a company's negligence, and that someone successfully sues.

But the GOP is happy to use lawyers to steal elections or make a case that torture is okey dokey.

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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 10:31 PM
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2. Who is Steven Hatfill? (American Prospect 06.27.02 )
.. Hatfill's longer biography is riddled with gaps where classified projects presumably belong. The son of a thoroughbred horse breeder, Hatfill was born in St. Louis, Missouri, in 1953, then raised in Illinois. He studied biology at small Southwestern College in Kansas, taking a year off midway through to work with a Methodist doctor in Zaire. He graduated in 1975, married in 1976, had a daughter, and got divorced in 1978. From 1975 to 1978, he served with the U.S. Army Institute for Military Assistance, based at Fort Bragg, North Carolina, while simultaneously, his resume says, serving in the Special Air Squadron (SAS) of the white supremacist regime in Rhodesia. He attended medical school in Rhodesia from 1978 to 1984, and then moved to South Africa, where he completed various military-medical assignments while obtaining three master's degrees, studying for a doctoral degree, and practicing in a South African clinic ..

There is something curious about Hatfill's claim, on his resume, to have worked concurrently with the U.S. Army Institute for Military Assistance in Fort Bragg and with the Rhodesian Special Air Squadron. Indeed, several of his associates have told the Prospect that Hatfill bragged of having been a double agent in South Africa -- which raises some intriguing questions. Was the U.S. military biowarfare program willing to hire and give sensitive security clearances to someone who had served in the apartheid-era South African military medical corps, and with white-led Rhodesian paramilitary units in Zimbabwe's civil war two decades earlier? Or did Hatfill serve in the Rhodesian SAS, and later in the South African military medical corps, at the behest of the U.S. government? ..

To qualify for this clearance, he was reportedly required to take a polygraph test. Hatfill allegedly told the military official that he failed the polygraph on questions concerning his activities in Rhodesia (now Zimbabwe). The people conducting the polygraph were amateurs, Hatfill allegedly complained to his interlocutor; they couldn't understand what Cold Warriors like himself had to do in Rhodesia. The military official recalls Hatfill as saying that his father-in-law had been killed by rebels in Rhodesia, and that he had consequently undertaken some actions that caused concern when he was given his polygraph test ..

It's not easy to shine a light into the secretive world of U.S. military bio-warfare defense work. And it's awfully hard to tell suspicious activities from ordinary ones when you're casting about in the dark. For instance, as previously mentioned, in August 2000 scientists at USAMRIID saw Hatfill taking some old biosafety cabinets from a hallway, throwing them in the back of his car, and driving off. Theoretically, the cabinets could have enabled a knowledgeable user to cultivate deadly germs off-site. One scientist reported the incident to the FBI with understandable concern. But a spokeswoman for the U.S. Special Forces told the Prospect that Hatfill was authorized to take the cabinets as props for a then-classified training session, in which he was to show Special Forces how to recognize a makeshift germ lab. The cabinets were destroyed after two demonstrations, the spokeswoman said ..

http://www.prospect.org/web/page.ww?section=root&name=V...
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-24-06 10:24 AM
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9. black ops with deadly germs and no one know who sent stuff to the
Democratic leadership
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 10:35 PM
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3. Will the Times make this another 1st Amendment cause celebre?
Or, since it's mid-October, have the Aspens turned?
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-24-06 05:38 AM
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6. Why don't they just ask Hatfield's friend Jerome Hauer?
Hauer is the one that really knows who did the anthrax attacks. Hauer is the one who told the WH to start taking Cipro on 9-11-01.

I'm amazed Hauer had the time to make such a phone call to the WH on 9-11, since it was such a busy day for him. What with making sure his friend John O'Neill got killed and overseeing the collapse of three skyscrapers.



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Toots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-24-06 07:37 AM
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7. Used to be in America one had a right to confront their accuser
In fact it is written in the Constitution but now that is only some quaint piece of paper...It no longer applies.
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Rockholm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-24-06 08:06 AM
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8. KICK
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