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ECH1969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 04:23 PM
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Breaking: - U.S. Soldier Missing In Baghdad - U.S. Military
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OhioChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 04:24 PM
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1. Not good.
Hope he turns up........alive.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 05:05 PM
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12. no, not good at all.
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Monkeyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 05:10 PM
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14. You and me both
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wholetruth00 Donating Member (576 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 07:48 PM
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28. Hoping for a positive outcome. I hope they don't use US torture laws.
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 04:25 PM
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2. It's a good thing the Geneva Convention will protect him
Edited on Mon Oct-23-06 04:29 PM by SpiralHawk
Right? No one would ever torture an American soldier, right?

Oh oh, I forgot, Commander AWOL Bush and his Chickenhawk republicon cronies flushed the Geneva Convention down the crapper a couple weeks ago along with our basic American right of Habeas Corpus.

I guess that's because none of the republicon leaders or propagandists (Cheney, Limbaugh, Hannity, O'Rielly) ever served a day in uniform in harm's way. They know THEY will never be tortured. As for our sons and daughters in uniform, Commander AWOL could give a flying fig. He and his family are safe. All they have to do is kick back and count their oil profits.

I will light a candle and pray for our captured soldier.

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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 04:31 PM
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4. If this soldier is tortured it should make
bu$h real proud

And fuck you too McCain, you could have stopped the torture bill.
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tblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 06:27 PM
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24. Ditto your messsage to McCain and the other bootlickers, too
and the turncoat Dems who failed us and our troops. I hope they have nightmares.
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 04:32 PM
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5.  You Mean ----"Commander AWOL could give a flying fuck"
Right

Oh yes here he is

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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 06:46 PM
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25. That Picture is PRICLESS!
He fits as a monkey.... it's no wonder right wingers don't want to accept evolution.
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Pavulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 05:59 PM
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21. My buddies who deployed to Afghanistan
expected to be killed if captured. They expected it to be video taped for their folks to see. This was in 2002. Not that torture is right but the enemy is not playing by the rules.

Most guys I talked planned to kill themselves before becoming taliban prisoners.

I have not had first hand conversations from Iraq, but the queen of hearts is on the table there too.

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Big_Mike Donating Member (274 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-24-06 12:53 AM
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39. Read Kipling
In his poetry of the 1880s, he advises the British soldier to save the last bullet for himself, rather than be captured by the Afgans (sorry, but I can't find my book to give the proper title of the poem). Nothing has changed there in the past 130 years. The Soviet soldiers found it to be truthful 25 years ago, and it continues today, and will likely be true tomorrow.
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Codeine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-24-06 04:37 AM
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40. This may not be exact,
but the Kipling bit goes something like

"If you're wounded and left on Afghanistan's plains,
And the women come out to cut up your remains,
Just roll to your rifle and blow out your brains,
And go to your God like a soldier."
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 04:31 PM
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3. Only One?
Or only one they'll admit to?
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 04:38 PM
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6. All of a sudden, I want to throw up. n/t
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 08:54 PM
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32. You do realize that the GI is from the same Alaska Stryker unit
that has been in Iraq since last year and was supposed to return home two months ago, but Rumsfeld extended them.

None of these would have happen had the unit been rotated home when it was supposed to. They have been in combat for over a year!
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 10:13 PM
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36. I did not realize. That makes it especially heartbreaking for his loved ones.
And we can all agree that none of this would have happened if America were a country which lived under the rule of law, because we could then go all the way back to the year 2000 and so many wrongs would never have occurred.

It's one tragedy after the other, after the other, after the other ... nobody has been safe ever since bush first asserted squatter's rights in the Oval Office.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 04:41 PM
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7. Thank God We Adhere to the Geneva Conventions!
and don't torture. :sarcasm:

poor guy. :(
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 04:45 PM
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8. that makes two missing
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 04:47 PM
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9. Well, we'll just march up to those insurgents and demand
habeas corpus, they'll obey without hesitation, and everything will be all right again.
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 04:48 PM
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10. GI listed as missing in Baghdad
<snip>

"A U.S. soldier in Baghdad was reported missing late Monday, the U.S. military said.

"Coalition and Iraqi Security forces immediately responded to attempt to locate the soldier. The search is ongoing," the military said in a statement that gave no other details."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061023/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq...
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 05:10 PM
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15. 4.7 stars
ORY

Your Recommendation:

Average (26 votes)
4.7 stars
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 05:00 PM
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11. And should the soldier be found tortured and dead, we'll hear
how we are fighting an enemy that has no respect for international law or the rules of civilized societies...and the administration will say these things with a straight face...the hypocrisy never once registering with their corrupt, warped, and twisted minds.

And the exact same Americans who call torture "frat pranks" will be angry and want revenge.

And those in Congress who voted for the Military Commission Act of 2006 will be outraged..and they'll voice their outrage in the media so everyone can know how appalled they are....

and the sane will cry...









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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 05:07 PM
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13. my heart skipped a beat when I saw this headline. REC.
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soup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 06:21 PM
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23. I know.
:hug: :cry:

Get them the hell out of this madness and home where they belong.
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Az_lefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 05:24 PM
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16. What a nightmare...hope he turns up somewhere alive and well...
:hide:
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SlavesandBulldozers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 05:34 PM
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17. probably lost sightseeing
Edited on Mon Oct-23-06 05:35 PM by SlavesandBulldozers
it's a lot like Manhattan, there.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 05:36 PM
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18. recall the 2 gone missing last summer?---they were found mutilated.
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MaineDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 05:41 PM
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19. What about Sgt Maupin?
I think he was a sergeant...not sure though.

Not a word about him for years now.
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democrank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 06:13 PM
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22. MaineDem....
Sgt. Maupin is listed at the link below. Missing since April, 2004.


http://icasualties.org/oif/
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 06:48 PM
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26. i check on news for him every week, very sad.
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Monkeyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 08:30 PM
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29. Missing in action two years
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 05:54 PM
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20. Is this another AWOL case?
There is no hint in the story as to the context of his disappearance.
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jannyk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 07:12 PM
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27. I'm not getting this?
One soldier is 'missing'. OK, that's probably not going to end well and my heart goes out to his family.

However, why all the saturation and hyper-ventilating on the media? "We're trying to find out his name, rank, hometown, division, whatever..." Why does this one get so much coverage when 86 DIED this month? No-one cared what their names, ranks etc were. They barely got an 'oh, by the way..." on any news program - they were treated as nameless ... commas. But a 'missing' one, whoo hoo - stop the presses - we've 'lost' one.

Well, we 'lost' 86 this month. They, and the other nearly 3000 that preceded them, will be 'missing' for their families this Thanksgiving, Christmas and forever. Why all the fuss over this 'one'?
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Justice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 08:32 PM
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30. There will and should be a "fuss" over each and every one
They are not numbers, not statistics to throw out - they are brothers, fathers, sons, husbands, partners, co-workers, friends.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 08:43 PM
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31. and neither are the 685,000 Iraqi civilians killed since the US invasion
Edited on Mon Oct-23-06 08:44 PM by IndianaGreen
they are not numbers either, and they are as much "brothers, fathers, sons, husbands, partners, co-workers, friends."

There is a scene in the film Gandhi, where Gandhi is traveling across India on a train. The train comes to an unscheduled stop because the rail line had been blown up by insurgents, killing several Indians and a British soldier. Gandhi's English companion remarks about the horrors of terrorism, and the fact they have now killed a British soldier. The camera focuses on Gandhi face and then cuts and pans at the several bodies of dead Indians laying alongside the track.
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Prisoner_Number_Six Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 09:01 PM
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33. Because in all likelyhood all of the others died quickly
If this man is captured he'll be treated exactly like one of the detainees in OUR hands- that is to say, he'll be tortured to death. And they will be able to say they were just playing by our rules when they did it to him.
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jannyk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 09:57 PM
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35. I get the whole 'double standard' point but...
to say that the others, all 2800 of them, died quickly is incredibly naive.

I would imagine that a great many of them bled to death and died in agony, having been blown apart by IED's. They don't die nice and cleanly like in video games - that's why we're not allowed any pictures - too messy for our sensibilities - too 'real'. No. only a lucky few die qiuckly.

This 'one', as much as my heart cries for him, is no more important than those that died yesterday and will die tommorow - yet they don't even rate a 'name'. It is our shame.
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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 09:57 PM
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34. Army translator missing (this does not bode well)
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061024/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq...
(available off most other wire aggregators, too)

A U.S. soldier in Baghdad was reported missing late Monday, and residents said American forces sealed the central Karadah district and were conducting door-to-door searches. Other reports claimed he was an Army translator of Iraqi descent and was abducted.

A military official in Washington said the missing service member was a translator and that the initial report was he may have been abducted. The official spoke on condition of anonymity because the information was not cleared for release.


God help this guy
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Barrett808 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 10:40 PM
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37. As far as the insurgency is concerned, if he's an Iraqi, then he's a collaborator
God help this guy, indeed.
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psychopomp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 10:53 PM
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38. A prayer for this soldier
and for all who are needlessly caught in this senseless conflict.
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