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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 11:06 AM
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Opponent denies calling Clinton ugly


http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061023/ap_on_el_se/ny_sena...

Opponent denies calling Clinton ugly

By MARC HUMBERT, Associated Press Writer 23 minutes ago

ALBANY, N.Y. - Sen.
Hillary Clinton's Republican challenger on Monday flatly denied telling a reporter that Clinton was unattractive when she was younger and suggesting she had had "millions of dollars" of "work."


John Spencer, a former Yonkers mayor, acknowledged talking to the reporter during a flight on Friday but said he didn't make the statements attributed to him in Monday's New York Daily News.

"It's a fabrication. I would never call Hillary Clinton ugly," Spencer told The Associated Press. "That's outrageous. I didn't do it."

The reporter, Ben Smith, told the AP that Spencer made the comments as Spencer, his wife and Smith sat together. He said he didn't tape-record the comments but did take notes.

"You ever see a picture of her back then? Whew. I don't know why Bill married her," The Daily News quoted Spencer as saying about Clinton.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 11:08 AM
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1. its 2006 and this MAN is dissing Hil for facelifts! little man with a l

little mind!



..Spencer said Clinton looks different now, chalking it up to "millions of dollars" of "work," according to the tabloid.

"She looks good now," he is quoted as saying.

Clinton adviser Howard Wolfson said Clinton has had no plastic surgery or similar appearance-enhancing work.

"Sadly, this is just the latest in a long line of insulting and offensive comments that John Spencer has made throughout his career, and it's unfortunate that he has chosen to run a campaign based on personal attacks," the Clinton aide said.

Polls have shown Clinton far ahead of Spencer in the Senate race.
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 11:09 AM
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2. Back peddling.
Thats what all Repukes seem to be doing.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 11:13 AM
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3. Wasn't there, don't know what Spencer did or didn't say.
But that misogynist cologne he's got on is a bit strong.

No one should be downwind from it in 2008 A.D., and he's smart enough to know that -- if he said what he's accused of.

School kids bullying the smart girl in their class.

Bad form.

I hope Senator Clinton whips this guy's ass in two weeks.
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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 07:51 PM
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25. She will, never fear
.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 11:14 AM
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4. When his quote was firwstlistedon DU I said this one was going
to hurt him and it looks like I was right! Lying about saying it isn't going to help either!
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 11:14 AM
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5. Talk to Rupert, Mr. Spencer
Isn't NYDaily one of his babies?
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itcfish Donating Member (805 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 11:40 AM
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6. NY Post
is Rupert Murdoch's baby
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 11:45 AM
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7. Appreciate the correction
Thanks!
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 11:53 AM
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8. Here's a headline you never see:
"Republican tells truth." Well, except when followed by a description of how he or she denied it up until irrefutable evidence was about to be released to the press.
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greeneyedboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 12:35 PM
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9. just like 3rd grade, only more destructive. pathetic.
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truthpusher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 06:52 PM
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10. Opponent Denies Calling Clinton Ugly
http://rawstory.com/showarticle.php?src=http%3A%2F%2Fap...

Opponent Denies Calling Clinton Ugly


Oct 23, 11:40 AM (ET)

By MARC HUMBERT

ALBANY, N.Y. (AP) - Sen. Hillary Clinton's Republican challenger on Monday flatly denied telling a reporter that Clinton was unattractive when she was younger and suggesting she had had "millions of dollars" of "work."

John Spencer, a former Yonkers mayor, acknowledged talking to the reporter during a flight on Friday but said he didn't make the statements attributed to him in Monday's New York Daily News.

"It's a fabrication. I would never call Hillary Clinton ugly," Spencer told The Associated Press. "That's outrageous. I didn't do it."

The reporter, Ben Smith, told the AP that Spencer made the comments as Spencer, his wife and Smith sat together. He said he didn't tape-record the comments but did take notes.

"You ever see a picture of her back then? Whew. I don't know why Bill married her," The Daily News quoted Spencer as saying about Clinton.

Spencer said Clinton looks different now, chalking it up to "millions of dollars" of "work," according to the tabloid.

"She looks good now," he is quoted as saying.

(snip)

link: http://rawstory.com/showarticle.php?src=http%3A%2F%2Fap...
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Charlie Brown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 06:52 PM
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11. I wonder how badly Spencer will go down in two weeks
he may do worse than Alan Keyes.
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shain from kane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 06:52 PM
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12. Spencer for hire in two weeks. n/t
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CJCRANE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 06:52 PM
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13. She ain't ugly
she's hideous!

Just kidding.

She's a handsome lady for her age but I doubt she's had "millions of dollars of work" done.



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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-24-06 03:36 AM
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27. Yeah, really Hillary is attractive
but if she had spent millions of dollars she would have more to show for it than the way she looks now. Hillary would probably have that pulled up tight face that is common for those that have had work done.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 06:52 PM
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14. He should prove he doesn't think she's ugly...
He should give her a big ol' french kiss like Bush and LIEberman.
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stanwyck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 06:52 PM
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15. I imagine she's attractive enough
to be one of the "family values" Republicans first or second wives. I mean, those guys love marriage so much, they have at least 3 or 4 marriages. So, Hillary might not be as hot as the current wife, but then she's Bill's only wife. Imagine that. A dog like Bill, and I say that with all respect - cause I love Bill - stays married.
Meanwhile, the Clintons and the rest of us are lectured on family values by the multiply-divorced crowd.
It's not the divorces I find objectionable. It's the carping lecturing on marriage from people who clearly have their own issues on marriage which bothers me. I mean these are people who want the "defense of marriage" act and want "covenant marriages" - which would make divorce more difficult. Well, more difficult for "other" people. Not for Newt.
Ah, Republican hypocrisy. As American as Old Glory.
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 06:52 PM
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16. Hey, if Hil wants to improve anything? God Bless, it's 2006!!!! not 1976
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-24-06 03:54 AM
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28. i agree. and if you look at the research---Men are also getting the tucks!
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Blaq Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 06:52 PM
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17. GOP weren't afraid to call Chelsey ugly
Remember when they critized Chelsey when she was just a kid? GOP are brutal. Someone needs to do a google search on that.
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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 06:53 PM
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18. She's been attacked viciously:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chelsea_Clinton

* On November 6, 1992, three days after her father won the elections, in a reference to who is moving in and out of White House, Rush Limbaugh made a reference on his television show to Chelsea and Millie, the dog of outgoing President George H. W. Bush. At the moment where Limbaugh said "cute kid," the picture of Millie appeared onscreen. Limbaugh apologized during that show and gave a lengthier apology a few days later. <6>

* Senator John McCain circulated a joke that Chelsea's "real father" was Janet Reno, for which he later apologized personally to the President. <7>


Good for her for taking it all in stride.
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-24-06 03:30 AM
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26. That's just the kind of guy
that McCain is, nice guy huh....NOT!
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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-24-06 06:27 AM
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31. He must be really proud of himself
n/t
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Marie26 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 06:53 PM
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19. Parsing the denial
Sen. Hillary Clinton's Republican challenger on Monday flatly denied telling a reporter that Clinton was unattractive when she was younger and suggesting she had had "millions of dollars" of "work."

The denial - "It's a fabrication. I would never call Hillary Clinton ugly."

But that wasn't what the article said, was it? He's narrowly denying a statement he was never alleged to have made, while avoiding denying the statements he DID make. So it's not, technically, a lie when he denies it. Do they send Republicans to a special school to learn how to weasel like this?
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 06:53 PM
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21. Good catch.
They do this all the time. It gets tedious. The courts use the phrase "the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth" for a good reason.
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Megahurtz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 06:53 PM
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22. They ALL do that and get away with it.
It's putridly disgusting. :puke:
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Ignacio Upton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 06:53 PM
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20. When will Unitary Executive Hillary waterboard Spencer?
My guess is within her first 24 hours in office.
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HockeyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 06:53 PM
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23. Hillary or Spitzer
The ONLY question in New York Elections is who will get the most votes: Hillary or Spitzer.
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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 06:57 PM
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24. Ugly is as ugly does
Rick Lazio redux
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Codeine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-24-06 04:34 AM
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29. At the risk of sounding crass,
I'd hit it! }( :evilgrin:

:spank:
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-24-06 04:50 AM
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30. they sound like kindergartners
yikes
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Marie26 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-24-06 10:00 AM
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32. Well, figures.
Edited on Tue Oct-24-06 10:02 AM by Marie26
I was looking for a photo of Mr. John Spencer (only fair), and found this photo of Spencer & his trophy wife prominently displayed on his web page. http://www.spencerforsenate.com / He is currently married for the third time, to a woman much younger & blonder than he is. She was his former "chief of staff", and he had two children w/her while still married to his second wife.

"He married Kathy Spring, his third wife, and they have three children together, two of whom were born while Spencer was married to his second wife and while Spring was serving as Spencer's mayoral chief of staff. Spring's annual salary, which started at $52,000, increased to $138,000 by the time she and Spencer both left office. Spencer did not publicly acknowledge the affair until 2002."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Spencer_ (politician)

But he apparantly feels free to judge other people. Such a pack of hypocrites, these Republicans.
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raccoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-24-06 10:24 AM
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33. Spencer certainly isn't anything to look at.

His trophy wife wouldn't never looked at him if he didn't have his money.

And regardless of what Hillary looks like, his remarks were totally inappropriate, and this clueless, immature, bullying, patriarchal son of a Repukican, would never have said this about a man.
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