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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 10:25 PM
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NYC Plane Crash Survivor: a 'Miracle'
October 12, 2006

NEW YORK -- A woman in a high-rise apartment hit by New York Yankee Cory Lidle's plane survived after her housekeeper saw the aircraft coming and rushed in from another room to get her out, a relative of the resident said Thursday.

Flames from the deadly crash scorched Ilana Benhuri's back and legs but she "has very good spirits," said her husband, Dr. Parviz Benhuri.

"She was in the same room that the nose of the plane hit," said her brother-in-law Dr. Marc Benhuri. "I'm telling you it's an absolute miracle that she's alive. I honestly believe that God was sitting on her shoulder."

Ilana Benhuri, 50, was doing paperwork at her desk when she heard the small plane outside her 30th-floor apartment, Marc Benhuri said. The housekeeper, Eveline Reategue, saw the plane coming and rushed into the other room to get her, he said.

The plane crashed into the apartment as they were trying to get out, Marc Benhuri said. Lidle and his flight instructor, Tyler Stanger, were killed.

http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/nation/wire/sns...


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HeeBGBz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 10:27 PM
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1. That's one to tell the grandkids about
Can you imagine the "oh shit!" factor? Run awayyyy!
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 10:29 PM
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3. Amazing they had enough of their wits about them
to close the doors behind them.

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bainz Donating Member (278 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 10:28 PM
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2. Miracle? LBN? n/t
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notadmblnd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-13-06 06:16 AM
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20. I don't see where god has anything to do with it either.
The housekeeper saved the woman. If God had really been on the job, the crash would never have happened.
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Wise Doubter Donating Member (458 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-13-06 08:41 AM
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32. EXACTLY !!
"God" sure wasn`t sitting on the shoulder of anyone on 9/11.


Why is it that after a boxing match, or other type of sporting event, you always hear the winner thanking God for their victory?

You never get to hear the loser`s thoughts : " Man, that fucker, God, really let me down !" :rofl:
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donsu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-13-06 10:43 AM
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41. yes, the housekeeper saved her
nt
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KurtNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-13-06 01:56 PM
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54. Well if they gave due credit to the housekeeper they
would have to tip her or something. Much cheaper to thank God.
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-13-06 12:15 PM
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46. can also just mean extraordinary luck. Don't you eve say "JESUS CHRIST!"
or "GOD DAMN IT!" and not mean it as a profession of faith or a literal prayer that God damn something?
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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 10:30 PM
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4. Amazing they both didn't have heart attacks right there
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-13-06 01:28 PM
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52. Or become paralyzed by fear. nt
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 10:30 PM
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5. God was sitting on her shoulder watching another of his children...
...fly into her living room and burst into flames?

Wow, that God dude...what a cut-up!

.
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HeeBGBz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 10:36 PM
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8. That would be Q
Omnipotent pain in the ass.
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greccogirl Donating Member (566 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 10:40 PM
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10. Yes, He must have been
looking out for her.
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Hell Hath No Fury Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-13-06 05:15 AM
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18. The point is....
why wasn't He looking out for Lidle and the trainer??? She was somehow more worthy of His care then they?

Those who claim miracles when others lose cheapen God, IMO.
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Lindacooks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 11:26 PM
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12. Yep, my point exactly.
I dare that guy to say that to Lidle's family.
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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 10:33 PM
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6. Wouldn't the miracle have been if the plane didn't hit?
If that's a miracle, I think I'll pass.
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Dead_Parrot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 10:36 PM
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7. "I honestly believe that God was sitting on her shoulder"
That's the weirdest thing I've heard in a while. Is there some new parrot god of plane crashes?
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Binka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-13-06 02:54 AM
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16. Occasionally He Says "God Wants A Cracker"
Sweet guy.
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Hell Hath No Fury Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-13-06 05:16 AM
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19. I am sitting her with insomnia...
and you just made me laugh out loud. Thank you! :D
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Binka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-13-06 06:22 AM
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21. Not To Toot My Own Horn (Parrot) It Made Me LOL TOO!
Now get to bed!
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Oak2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-13-06 10:14 AM
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38. Wrong!
I have a special personal relationship with a Supreme Ruler who sits on my shoulder, and mine says "Mommee! Want Avi-cake! Help me!", at full volume, with the Divine Beak inserted partway into my ear canal. I hear the ringing of St. Peter's bells, or at least plenty of ringing of some sort, for some time after receiving the Miraculous Message.

While I'm aware that many of you who comment in this vein are atheists, I'm not, and I too dislike commentary which suggests that God plays favorites. It profanes God. God isn't a guy in the clouds with a scaled-up human ego; God is more nearly approximated as Ultimate Principle operating far beyond conventional human thought, including human notions of favoritism (though that description, too, falls short, as any description must).
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VegasWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-13-06 11:57 AM
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43. No! God was sitting on the pilot's shoulder yelling to the housekeeper to
"Run for your fucking life!!!"
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tk2kewl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 10:36 PM
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9. seems to me she was saved by her housekeeper
I wonder if the house keeper is an undocumented immigrant? :shrug:
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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-13-06 12:29 AM
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15. I'm thinking it wasn't 'god'
it was the housekeeper for crying out loud! Why are they giving credit to God? Apparently he was napping or something, or the plane wouldn't have crashed in the first damn place!
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zanne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-13-06 08:00 AM
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25. And WTF happened to the housekeeper? nt
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 11:14 PM
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11. She is very lucky.
O8)
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 11:44 PM
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13. A brave act by a housekeeper, not a miracle.
A miracle is an unexplainable occurence that violates natural law. Walking on water, raising the dead. Sounds like the good doctor is thanking the wrong person. The housekeeper saved his wife's life, and she didn't turn water into wine to do it. She just overcame the most basic human instinct to run away from danger.
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aaronbees Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-13-06 03:11 AM
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17. Absolutely ....it's commendable heroism
and not a miracle. Give that good housekeeper a raise! :)
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qanda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-13-06 07:31 AM
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22. Aren't these people allowed to believe that their loved one being alive
Is a miracle? She wasn't flying a plane, she was sitting at her desk assuming very little risk. To them it's a miracle that a plane crashed directly into the room she was in and she was able to survive. If it were my loved one I would be thanking God also that they survived this horrific accident.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-13-06 07:39 AM
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23. The religious references in the article
are a bit over the top.

God didn't save this woman, the housekeeper did. Yet, the real hero in the story is ignored by the reporter. Who ever wrote this drivel took a good story and ruined it.



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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-13-06 07:54 AM
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24. Who put the housekeeper there?
God O8)
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Binka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-13-06 08:01 AM
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26. Actually Poverty Put Her There
If she any money she wouldn't be a fucking housekeeper.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-13-06 08:03 AM
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27. You don't know that.
Edited on Fri Oct-13-06 08:04 AM by Bleachers7
If any of us had any money, we wouldn't be doing anything we're doing. Housekeepers in NYC often do well for themselves, especially if they work in nice buildings like that one. You have no idea how she got to that position. Maybe it was God's will.
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Binka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-13-06 08:13 AM
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30. Ever Worked As A Housekeeper For Wealthy Folks? I Have.
It most certainly was NOT God's will that I scrub their toilets. NO FUCKING WAY! Just sayin'.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-13-06 08:07 AM
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28. Actually in NYC a housekeeper can do pretty well
My friend's mom is in her 80's and is still working. She's loves her job and she's worked for some pretty intersesting people, from Kitty Carlisle to Anne Klein.

I was a mother's helper for a few years for some rich folks on the upper eastside. It was a great gig.



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mikita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-13-06 08:07 AM
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29. A.fucking.MEN
oh, excuse me GOD!
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KurtNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-13-06 02:06 PM
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55. So God f*cked up the plane,
let them steer it into the building, killing both of them, dropping fire onto the sidewalk below, etc. but just to soften the horror a little He makes the housekeeper risk her own ass to save this other woman? It wasn't bad enough that God made the Yankees lose in a sweep by Detroit, He had to kill Cory Lidle AND his instructor? Wow -- how Old Testament of Him!
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-13-06 02:44 PM
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57. Yes, exactly
O8)

And the Yankee's are God's team.
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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-13-06 01:20 PM
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50. Whoever wrote the story was simply quoting the brother-in-law
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-13-06 02:11 PM
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56. Whoever wrote the story
decides what to quote and what not to quote and what angle to take on the story.

If you've ever been interviewed, it's an interesting experience. Half the time they don't even get the quotes right and by the time they get the story to print, you end up scratching your head saying to yourself, that's not what I said or meant.

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Ex Lion Tamer Donating Member (445 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-13-06 08:30 AM
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31. Thanks.
I'm totally with you on that thought. And I can't understand why people need to take such pot shots.
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FlaGranny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-13-06 09:04 AM
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34. Not that I want to
take a pot shot, but it has always just floored me when someone is mangled almost to death in some horrible accident and then says how lucky they have been. Lucky would have been avoiding the accident in the first place. Surviving the injuries has more to do with your doctors and your own will to live. I feel more or less the same way when God is brought into it, but, of course, I'm not going to begrudge someone their beliefs.
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Ex Lion Tamer Donating Member (445 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-13-06 01:29 PM
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53. God was brought into because that is their paradigm.
And I see absolutely nothing wrong with it.

To use God to justify war, hate, bigotry, and discrimination is wrong--and un-Godly.

But to thank God for perceived salvation is at worst harmless and at best inspirational.
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soleft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-13-06 08:45 AM
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33. And they say you can't find good help
:shrug:
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-13-06 09:25 AM
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35. interesting double standard
There seems to be a lot of criticism directed at the family of this woman for describing her survival as a miracle and attributing it to God. Earlier this year a DUer's daughter went missing for a number of days and when, thankfully, she was found, many posters responded with "thank God" -- and I don't remember a single post criticizes that sentiment.

Just saying...
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FredScuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-13-06 10:12 AM
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37. So what's your point?
that we have different reactions to a member of our community who's gone through a trauma vs. a complete stranger whose family reacts as if Jesus himself came down and rushed her out of the way of a plane that happened to crash in her building?

Yeah, we're human...go figure.
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-13-06 10:45 AM
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42. My point is pretty clear, don't you think?
Yes, we're human. So is the family of the woman who survived the crash.

I just think progressive humans would be as tolerant and forgiving of a stranger as a "member of our community".
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FredScuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-13-06 11:59 AM
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44. Expect for one pertinent difference
I doubt DUers would be so crass and self important as to extol the glories of God in a tragedy where two people lost their lives simply because their dogs in the hunt made it out alive. In our example, the DUers daughter was safe and no one was hurt. In this case, where two people were killed, it's more than a little insensitive to make this big show about "God's divine hand".

Better to be glad she's alive and keep the God nonsense to yourself.
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-13-06 12:18 PM
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47. so, if a DUer's child makes it home from Iraq safely
and someone here expresses the sentiment "thank god" they made it home okay, you'll jump all over them since its insensitive?

okay...
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FredScuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-13-06 12:22 PM
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48. Stirring up trouble again, Carlos?
tsk, tsk.
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-13-06 12:26 PM
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49. don't think so Carlotta
Just making a point. Thanks for helping.
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qanda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-13-06 10:29 AM
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40. Let the church say....
AMEN!!!!!!!
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VegasWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-13-06 09:31 AM
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36. What a joke ...
The imaginary people believers are praising god for saving this one woman. Guess god was so busy with her that he let all the others be killed in the crash. Only the truly brainwashed could praise god for success in this incident. Sort of like praising Bush for success in Iraq because a school room received a fresh coat of paint.
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The Animator Donating Member (999 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-13-06 10:20 AM
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39. I think you guys are all missing a vital clue here...
What if the housekeeper is God? Then both statement would be true... Course I still have know idea why the housekeeper would be sitting on this lady's shoulder while a friggin' plane came crashing into the room.
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-13-06 12:13 PM
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45. I thought they meant someone in the plane. That would be cool.
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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-13-06 01:23 PM
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51. A lot of contenders for "Dumb/Ignorant Posts of the Day" on this thread
The brother-in-law of the rescued woman believes that her rescue was a "miracle."

So.What.

We've got some Thought Police here.
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